PFF Grades vs Lions

[cnuball21]

Glad to see this turned into a Dak thread per the usual…

 

[nate dizzle]

63. For comparison Cooper Rush on the year has a 57

Solid bus driving grade

 

[America's Cowboy]

I said you love him... figure of speech, but I see where your mind goes, and it makes sense. I care because I get tired of watching people like you complain about all the Dak threads, but then go ahead and bring Dak up. Just odd... like you, but whatever I am going to stop now before you excuse me of being a troll from some other team (the new MO around here if you are against the idea that Dak is not a hall of fame QB).

Just admit you hate Dak. It's so obvious just by reading your comments. I would respect you more if you admitted it, instead of posting childish commentary. One would think at 38, one would have matured enough by now.

 

[conner01]

Sm Williams should be higher.

Why didn’t he make the top 5?

I guess 2 sacks, a forced fumble and recovery didn’t impress them.

The most amazing thing about Williams is that he only played a dozen snaps
The kid earned more snaps if nothing else

 

[Runwildboys]

But that was also the 32nd ranked defense. Rush actually played some good defenses.

The lions came to play Sunday. Their defense was much better than their standing that day.

 

[cmoney23]

Its the weekly posting of top performers on PFF grading scale. Game ball to........ rookie Sam Williams who had one of the better stretches in recent memory in only 14 snaps. Someone find this kid more snaps. Aside from the raw stats of 2 sacks and a forced fumble, he lead the team with a PFF grade of 93.3.... which is all-pro level play, and it is the second time this season he has gone over the 90 grade mark. More snaps please!

Starting with the defense since they were the collective star of this game.

1. Micah Parsons. 90.5
2. Jourdan Lewis 88.9 - caveat is the Lions had nobody at wr
3. Diggs - 77.0
4. Hooker 68.0
5. Draw. 67.0

Offense

1. Zach Martin 76.9
2. Dalton Schultz 75.2
3. Pollard 74.8
4. CD Lamb. 73.0
5. Zeke 71.1

Biadez and McGovern also play well scoring 70.9 and 68.2

Thank you for sharing this!

appreciate it.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Another reason PFF is a joke. Sam Williams is solid against the run.

Williams may be very solid against the run, but Williams doesnt even have 100 snaps on the year so far, and the majority of his snaps have been against the pass. As we get a bigger sample size we will see, but PFF is very flawed with small sample sizes. He is certainly capable of making stops behind the LOS in the run game though, weve seen that.

And to be fair it may have been a poor choice of words on my end. PFF gives him a 57 against the run on the season, which sounds really low, but actually puts him right in the middle of all eligible EDGE players. Really you cant just take a PFF grade at face value, more important to look at it compared to others at the position. For the edge guys no one scores in the 90s against the run, only a few in the 80s even. So if we grade on a curve that 57 grade still isnt great, but isn't as bad as it sound either.

 

[cmoney23]

Stats are facts and facts don't lie. The interpretation of the data may differ, but they still don't lie.

Well said.

 

[JJHLH1]

The most amazing thing about Williams is that he only played a dozen snaps
The kid earned more snaps if nothing else

Crazy! I didn’t realize he only played a dozen snaps.

 

[Runwildboys]

Crazy! I didn’t realize he only played a dozen snaps.

I think it was actually 14

 

[charron]

63. For comparison Cooper Rush on the year has a 57

what's daks on the year?

 

[DFWJC]

63. For comparison Cooper Rush on the year has a 57

Sounds about right

 

[charron]

The most amazing thing about Williams is that he only played a dozen snaps
The kid earned more snaps if nothing else

He certainly has earned more snaps.

 

[DFWJC]

Diggs at 77 should discredit anything else they say

Don't want to pile on because its all in good fun unless people take it too seriously.
However.....
They always have issues grading the o-line and secondary

Their main problem is that they make assumptions about what the assignment is for each play and then grade accordingly.
It is a gigantic, insurmountable flaw, but whatever.

 

[atlantacowboy]

The only thing delusional around here is the constant Dak hatred.

Not sure how you intepret pointing out poor play, inconsistent results, and overpayment as hate...... but I guess everyone has their own biases.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Yet you can come on here and belittle PFF? At least look at what goes into their data first. I dont believe they are perfect my any means, but its a decent 3rd party resource.

https://www.pff.com/news/pro-how-pff-grades-quarterback-play

Its like clockwork. He's one these guys that overvalues his own opinion and blind to his own biases.

 

[BoysForLife]

63. For comparison Cooper Rush on the year has a 57

Well that's certainly worth an additional $38 million a year

 

[thunderpimp91]

It's not, but nothing we can do about it for 2022. Very few QBs out there that I think I would sign to big money deals, but that's just me. At this point though you have to hope for the best version of Dak moving forward. He's plenty good enough for this team to make a run with, but we need more consistency than what we saw against Detroit and Tampa.

 

[BoysForLife]

Just admit you hate Dak. It's so obvious just by reading your comments. I would respect you more if you admitted it, instead of posting childish commentary. One would think at 38, one would have matured enough by now.

I'll bite. I don't like Dak. I think he is arrogant, has an oversized and very fragile ego, and tries way too hard to convince everyone around him how invaluable he is instead of just letting his game talk for him. It annoys the piss out of me.

However that has nothing to do with how I judge his play. Everything I said above is also exactly how I felt about TO. But there was no doubt in my mind that TO was a HOF caliber receiver

Daks marginal QB. And I say that with confidence and conviction, not because I don't personally care for him, but because I have functioning eyes and can accurately assess his level of play. Simple as that.

You need to get over this notion that everyone who criticizes dak does so for some personal or nefarious reason. There are a helluva lot of people who simply don't think he's all that great a QB. And the numbers of people who view him that way are expanding. It's not personal. It's performance related. Get over it

 

[goshan]

He got a 65, pretty average score for a LB. 71 on the season which is 21st on their rankings for interior backers. Pretty average, which seems about right.

71 is middle of the pack (on the upper side). Not as bad as everyone is saying.