PFF Grades - Week 4

[atlantacowboy]

LB's are supposed to be weak but they are all top 5.

They had a good week. I’m guessing they were embarrassed and highly motivated after the Arizona game.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Hankins and Mazi rated so low yet the Pats only had 46 yards, and if you say it’s because we jumped out early, they only averaged 2.3 a carry. They really need to spend time explaining why they rated them these scores.

They explain it ad nauseum on their web site. It’s there for everybody to read. They grade every play. So the run might get stuffed, but Mazi will not get any credit for it if he gets thrown to the ground or loses his one on one battle.

 

[CowboyRoy]

And there in lies the issue 6 sacks and 13 penalties last season. Just because he didn’t completely **** the bed doesn’t mean it the best position for him!

A sack and a holding penalty kills 2 drives.

 

[VaqueroTD]

I wonder if PFF grades this as a “loss”

 

[VaqueroTD]

Stupid is more like it. The 1tech's job is to stalemate his man and eat blocks. It's actually not something you can easily discern watching on TV. And make no mistake, PFF grades come from people watching it on TV. They don't wait until the all-22 comes available because they're trying to "scoop" everybody and maintain the illusion that they are providing something of value. It's a genius display of marketing.. I understand even some NFL teams are subscribing to their services.. but don't be fooled. Their grades are SWAGs by people like you and me staying up late watching the games on TV and trying to figure out who did what from the TV copy. Which simply isn't possible given that there are many plays on which the TV copy doesn't even show ever player. But I digress.

If they're releasing these scores before they see a 22 angle, they are fraudulent indeed.

 

[Proof]

This was the first game where I saw Clark make a few nice plays. Hopefully he keeps it up

makes you wonder how things would look with overshown in there

 

[SackMaster]

He gave up 6 sack and had 13 penalties last season. Cross had the same numbers and there were grumbles of him being a bust. Just because he didn’t completely **** the bed as according to the peanut gallery here when picked doesn’t mean he’s a top end LT. Truth is, he’s a middling to slightly above LT. He’s an excellent top end guard. Now it’s deciding where he has more value. Call it the Larry Allen conundrum!

I couldn't give a crap about Cross, but since you want to bring him up...

Tyler played 1144 snaps, gave up 6 sacks and ended 2022 with a PFF grade of 71.4. Or he gave up a sack every 190 snaps. And was a monster run blocker.
Cross played 1088 snaps, gave up 7 sacks and ended 2022 with a PFF grade of 63.7. Or he gave up a sack every 155 snaps. I have no idea how good his run blocking was, but I would be hard pressed to believe he was better than Tyler, especially given his overall grade and being slightly worse at pass blocking.

And to top it off, Cross took snaps in camp AND pre-season games at T last year. Tyler had 0 and first snaps at T were done the week of the first game.

So while Cross was the 9th overall pick, had more time to prepare, he still was CLEARLY out played by the 24th overall pick at the same position.

And I'm pretty sure if Dallas drafted a player in the Top-10 and was that player was getting outplayed by a guy picked much later, we would be calling our player a bust too.

Therefore, my point stands. IF you can find a better LT than Tyler, get said LT and keep Tyler at LG. But that is a lot easier said than done.

But then again, I have no pride on the line if Tyler excels at LG or LT. He just has shown he will excel regardless of where he is played (well, maybe not C, but that would not surprise me either).

But as of now, Tyler is far and away the best option at LT not name Tyron on the Cowboys roster. And he's probably the best LT on Seattle's roster too.

 

[RonnieT24]

If they're releasing these scores before they see a 22 angle, they are fraudulent indeed.

I researched it a few years ago because I was curious. The NFL does not release the all-22 until I believe it's 24 hours after the game has been played. Probably something to do with the TV rights and all that. Yes every Monday a good 12-15 hours before the 24 hour mark hits, you can find the PFF grades all over the internet. Unless they have some agreement with the NFL to get access to the all-22 aka the coaching tape they don't see any more of the game than you or I. I have looked for indications that they DO have that access and have not been able to find any. If someone knows different I am open to being corrected.

 

[glimmerman]

Wow. Lowest I have seen Martin. Must be the injury. Rest him all week.