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PFF Grades - Week 4
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That grade makes no sense.
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Not really.
Rayman70
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he wasn't very good.
blueblood70
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Oh OK so we're having a conversation about how the PFF grades are off that they're never really that accurate but whenever they fit in there because you don't like a player then they're accurate right then you use that to bolster your negative outlook on a player I find that ironic and i also find it very hypocritical.. lmao
it's like people picking on Micah Parsons right now and overall PFF on another great Ted Parsons was our best defender in that game in New York but everyone says he's not the same player only because I don't like him so when they can find a way to take a jab they take a jab and they'll use these inaccurate grades to support them but whenever the inaccurate grades say it's a Prescott hater and they give him a 90 they'll say it's not right there's no way that's right it's inaccurate it's too high...lmao umm ok
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Sample size matters with PFFs scoring system as its really a reflection of consistency more so than direct impact on a specific game. Zeke only had 10 snaps Thursday so a couple of +2 plays on thier scoring system would basically lock in an excellent grade. On the year Dowdle is a 71, Zeke a 64 which sound about accurate in comparison to each other.
PFF doesnt factor in level of competition at all, plus Beebe graded out pretty solid in pass protection, it was run blocking that destroyed his grade. The Cowboys only ran for 18 yards running between the Gs on Thursday, 14 of those yards came after first contract by a defender. Not sure if it was an issue this week or not, but Beebe has struggled on those 2nd level blocks often as well.
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whoa buddy. Hold your horses. You assume way too much. I am well versed in the differences between a dumpster fire in Chazzy Green and Guyton. I am a big fan of Guyton and know he will have rough games, AND HE DID. It won't be his last. That said, its ok to be critical when its legit. He legit had rough game, BUT I never said thats all he will ever become. Chill and lower your anger. Guyton was holding on for dear life against the Giants. He must get that fixed, and he will. We are all adults here. Steelers will attack him, trust that. I might be more worried how Steele will handle Watt than how Guyton will do next week. I am worried about both our tackles. We cannot ignore that.
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Cooper Beebe - 42.6 (56 snaps) - 36.8 run blocking grade - yikes
This is why PFF are a bunch of clowns to me. They graded Cooper Beebe that low, especially in run blocking (including not giving up a single QB Pressure in pass blocking either)???
Bunch of clowns working at PFF.
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Very good comparison. PFF isnt bad, but people have to use it in the proper context. Their grades for an OL may not match what the OL coach is giving them that week, but its a nice baseline tool to compare to other players around the league.
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PFF ignored what Beebe did against the Giants. They lost any cred they may have had. Anyone who watched that game could see he did a great job. Even Brian Baldinger graded him out very well. I trust him much more than some guy in a cubicle at PFF.
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THANK YOU! Voice of reason.
McKDaddy
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You can give a group of people the exact same instructions & they will come back with a variety of results. It's just the way we are as humans. That is the problem with PFF. IF say two people worked together & graded every player in the league, then yes their results across the league would probably align more closely with the consensus of those who watched the games.
Too many people at PFF thus each person has their own subject interpretation of the grading standards & what they see on the field. Thus wildly fluctuating grades.
Too many people at PFF thus each person has their own subject interpretation of the grading standards & what they see on the field. Thus wildly fluctuating grades.
Rayman70
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well said 100% right on all counts. Here is this, we did something right, because the main result that mattered most was the final score. This is the only thing that matters in the end. PFF can dissect it all they want, but the result PROVES to a large degree, what kind of job was done.
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I thought he looked better in the limited snaps.
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Poor tackling because they lose discipline and focus...coaching. Throw in penalties with the very same mental status of the team...coaching
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Oh, he's a real man.
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I feel the same. You have to question their preparation as a whole when the tackling falls off so bad.
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Well, the caveat is that its the Giants and the offense still looks like poop. I thought Guyton's grade would be sub 40. This team will need a miraculous performance to beat Pittsburgh.
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He did look ok but he wasn’t better than Dowdle