PFF Grades - Week Two

[Calvin2Tony2Emmitt2Julius]

Top 5 Offensive Players (These are the guys with the majority of snaps)

1. Tyron Smith - 79.3
2. CeeDee Lamb - 77.5
3. Jake Ferguson - 75.2
4. Tony Pollard - 71.1
5. Zack Martin - 70.9
6. Dak Prescott - 70.4

Bottom 5 Offensive Players (These are the guys with the majority of snaps)

1. Peyton Hendershot - 37.7
2. Terence Steele - 37.8
3. Chuma Edoga - 42.3
4. Michael Gallup - 51.1
5. Tyler Biadasz - 57.7

Top 5 Defensive Players (These are the guys with the majority of snaps)

1. Micah Parsons - 94.4
2. DeMarcus Lawrence - 94.4
3. Malik Hooker - 91.8
4. Osa Odighizuwa - 74.5
5. Markquese Bell - 73.1

Bottom 5 Defensive Players (These are the guys with the majority of snaps)

1. Stephon Gilmore - 42.0
2. Sam Williams - 61.4
3. Leighton Vander Esch - 63.1
4. Dorance Armstrong - 66.9
5. Jayron Kearse - 67.1

Talk about pulling numbers out of your own stanky orifices . B.S. List

 

[Dallasfann]

There were 25 posts in that thread, and maybe one or two of them questioning his level of play.

No one in there right mind questions Tyron when he is healthy. Everyone questions him staying healthy

Agreed. That was only 1 thread. If I get bored this week I'll pull up more for you.

 

[Dallasfann]

so maybe it's just your lack of understanding about how a forum works. I'll help. Someone starts a thread (even if stupid) and people comment. Some agree, some disagree and some correct incorrect statements or add to the topic.

And some cry about other posters being right.

 

[bsbellomy]

Pretty good our bottom 5 defenders still got decent grades, bad day for Gilmore tho

Not sure how Gilmore gets penalized for the long TD but Hooker does not.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Agreed. That was only 1 thread. If I get bored this week I'll pull up more for you.

If you want to waste time digging up something Ive already read, then you do you boo. Its your time

 

[chagus]

You guys remember a thread in August that said "I'm worried about Tyron Smith" followed with 100 post sayin he's washed. Then me being like "If there is one player on this entire team I'm not worried about when it comes to actual football play it's Tyron Smith" Yea I remember too.

Look I found it

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/micah-parsons-is-the-best-medicine-for-tyron-smith.512428/

I take it back..it's just the same old trolls saying it.

Dude... don't gloat. That's jinxing talk. SHHHH!!!

 

[CWR]

You guys remember a thread in August that said "I'm worried about Tyron Smith" followed with 100 post sayin he's washed. Then me being like "If there is one player on this entire team I'm not worried about when it comes to actual football play it's Tyron Smith" Yea I remember too.

Look I found it

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/micah-parsons-is-the-best-medicine-for-tyron-smith.512428/

I take it back..it's just the same old trolls saying it.

I dont have to go back and look, because I know I have zero history of talking down on his ability.

You're right though, plenty here have piled on many times over.

 

[CWR]

3 defenders in the 90s is pretty insane

Pretty sure it was Hooker who whiffed on the Wilson tackle for a career long td. I dont know how he still pulled a 90? Not that I keyed in on him during the game, but it was a massive play for the Jets. Fortunately the offense answered

 

[VaqueroTD]

I was looking at PFF's career section on data analysis jobs, and I though there was something very telling. On their job requirements, they specifically put "you never had to play or watch football." So, do I think someone can still provide some accurate stats without playing the game? Yes. But... to advertise it as such, breaks down what is wrong with their numbers and why they sometimes don't make sense. Football is not a solo sport like baseball where you can do the jockey math and come up with something fairly accurate. Complete, total team game, and I think if you're going to come up with a statistics system that grades these players correctly, you do need to have knowledge of the game. Every facet of the game depends on all 11 men doing their job right. They should be hiring ex-coaches to be on their stats team. Sometimes they get it right, but sometimes they get it wrong... very wrong.

 

[America's Cowboy]

I did not think Farniok look very good at guard in the preseason. However, he looked better than Hoffman at guard and center. We brought in Edoga to be a veteran with starting experience who could step in at guard or tackle (although I'd rather he didn't at tackle). I have no problem keeping him over Farniok.

I disagree. I agree with PFF's assessment on Edoga.

 

[treykin32]

Terrence Steele was getting thrown around like a rag doll the 1st half.

 

[Jumbo075]

Why did we keep pendershot again? Dude is awful.

Hendershot here only because Stephens got hurt. IMAO

 

[CCBoy]

Yeah but sometimes if you watch the game real close I've seen Tyler be honest get pushed right back in the dax face by bull rushes he still has not got that resolved the 100% he's a really good player but to be honest I don't think we're gonna break the bank to keep the guy you see other guys that we just let go like Connor Williams and McGovern become center starters for other teams.. I don't want to move on from the guy but I've seen far too many of those plays where he's getting pushed back into Prescott he may not always give up a sack but it's kind of disruptive in the middle to have your center get pushed back that far.

Don't abandom ship just yet. This incomplete starter group has been hustling and covering player errors on fumbles and teamwork indicators as well. As the unit continues to grow, productions will be arriving at levels that compete directly with those of San Francisco...and Philadelphia.

 

[reddyuta]

I don't recall Steele being terrible.

Anywho, interesting grades for some.

he got beat a lot.its just that Dak is getting the ball out quickly,either his first read or his second is open in this new scheme,Steele is a good run blocker but he is getting paid like a pro bowler but he is not one.

 

[blueblood70]

Don't abandom ship just yet. This incomplete starter group has been hustling and covering player errors on fumbles and teamwork indicators as well. As the unit continues to grow, productions will be arriving at levels that compete directly with those of San Francisco...and Philadelphia.

I didn't say I'm abandoning him I'm pointing out it's been quite obvious when he's been collapsed in the middle by the bigger dudes it's been his problem since Day 1 the bull rush he has a hard time getting low enough to stop it he doesn't have that low end Travis Frederick body... No one said we shouldn't sign the guy but I don't think I'm paying this duty a big contract given the fact that we already just paid steel re up Martin we already have a nice young player in Tyler Smith we just drafted some guys I'm thinking instead of paying for a center who's just good we gotta do like we did with left guard and you gotta keep looking...

 

[CowboyRoy]

Top 5 Offensive Players (These are the guys with the majority of snaps)

1. Tyron Smith - 79.3
2. CeeDee Lamb - 77.5
3. Jake Ferguson - 75.2
4. Tony Pollard - 71.1
5. Zack Martin - 70.9
6. Dak Prescott - 70.4

Bottom 5 Offensive Players (These are the guys with the majority of snaps)

1. Peyton Hendershot - 37.7
2. Terence Steele - 37.8
3. Chuma Edoga - 42.3
4. Michael Gallup - 51.1
5. Tyler Biadasz - 57.7

Top 5 Defensive Players (These are the guys with the majority of snaps)

1. Micah Parsons - 94.4
2. DeMarcus Lawrence - 94.4
3. Malik Hooker - 91.8
4. Osa Odighizuwa - 74.5
5. Markquese Bell - 73.1

Bottom 5 Defensive Players (These are the guys with the majority of snaps)

1. Stephon Gilmore - 42.0
2. Sam Williams - 61.4
3. Leighton Vander Esch - 63.1
4. Dorance Armstrong - 66.9
5. Jayron Kearse - 67.1

Sadly I am starting to think that Sam Williams will be nothing but a rotation piece.

 

[CCBoy]

I didn't say I'm abandoning him I'm pointing out it's been quite obvious when he's been collapsed in the middle by the bigger dudes it's been his problem since Day 1 the bull rush he has a hard time getting low enough to stop it he doesn't have that low end Travis Frederick body... No one said we shouldn't sign the guy but I don't think I'm paying this duty a big contract given the fact that we already just paid steel re up Martin we already have a nice young player in Tyler Smith we just drafted some guys I'm thinking instead of paying for a center who's just good we gotta do like we did with left guard and you gotta keep looking...

Philadelphia has a chink or two out of it's defensive team's roster that may be gone for the season. But their offense is going high octane and to present, the best offensive line showing up for Sundays. Something as simple as keeping the center may be the very piece that catches San Francisco in next year's cap slaughter and push the edge with Philadelphia for this season.

 

[Creeper]

You guys remember a thread in August that said "I'm worried about Tyron Smith" followed with 100 post sayin he's washed. Then me being like "If there is one player on this entire team I'm not worried about when it comes to actual football play it's Tyron Smith" Yea I remember too.

Look I found it

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/micah-parsons-is-the-best-medicine-for-tyron-smith.512428/

I take it back..it's just the same old trolls saying it.

I am actually shocked by how well Tyron is playing this year. He still seems to miss blocks on sweeps but he is solid in pass protection.

 

[Creeper]

Top 5 Offensive Players (These are the guys with the majority of snaps)

1. Tyron Smith - 79.3
2. CeeDee Lamb - 77.5
3. Jake Ferguson - 75.2
4. Tony Pollard - 71.1
5. Zack Martin - 70.9
6. Dak Prescott - 70.4

Bottom 5 Offensive Players (These are the guys with the majority of snaps)

1. Peyton Hendershot - 37.7
2. Terence Steele - 37.8
3. Chuma Edoga - 42.3
4. Michael Gallup - 51.1
5. Tyler Biadasz - 57.7

Top 5 Defensive Players (These are the guys with the majority of snaps)

1. Micah Parsons - 94.4
2. DeMarcus Lawrence - 94.4
3. Malik Hooker - 91.8
4. Osa Odighizuwa - 74.5
5. Markquese Bell - 73.1

Bottom 5 Defensive Players (These are the guys with the majority of snaps)

1. Stephon Gilmore - 42.0
2. Sam Williams - 61.4
3. Leighton Vander Esch - 63.1
4. Dorance Armstrong - 66.9
5. Jayron Kearse - 67.1

Odighizuwa has developed into a really good DT. What a great pick by Dallas.

How is Lamb only as 77.5? He had a great game and made some great catches.

I am growing more and more concerned about Hendershot. I think is John Stephens comes back from injury Hendershot is gone.

I don't get Gilmore's low grade. But I can see he no longer has the speed to keep up with the faster receivers.