PFF O Line Performance



Cowboys ranked 22nd
34 pressures allowed
1.3 yards per contact


Too much investment in the o line to be ranked this low. Seeing cleveland ranked so high makes me not feel so good about sunday.


To be fair most of that investment is not playing. The guys who are playing are actually pretty cheap, but I get your point.
 
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C: Looney- 62.5 (22nd)
Biadasz- 53.8

G: Martin- 74.2 (16th)
Williams- 55.0 (54th)


@xwalker You only like to see the things that fits your view point only.


PFF, the last resort for people with zero ability to review game footage and understand what actually happens.

PFF hires people with zero experience to "grade" game footage.

I've posted examples of job listings by PFF in the past that show they do not require ANY experience.

I've also posted a resume from a guy that worked for PFF "grading film" that shows his prior experience was as paint salesman for Sherwin Williams.

There are 32 teams and 16 games in non bye weeks.

There are about 70 snaps on offense and 70 on defense on average per game.

There are 22 players on the field for each snap.

That means that on average there are 22 x 140 x 16 player-snaps not including special teams each week.

PFF releases their "grades" within 24 hours.

If they spend 5 minutes per player per snap on the evaluation, then that's 4107 man hours to "grade" film.

That's with only 1 person grading each player snap.

Any system that could produce quality results would have multiple graders per player-snap.

It is basically impossible for PFF to accurately "grade" all player snaps every week.

PFF does have the ability to produce stats like how many passes by a QB were right, middle, left.
- Almost anybody could review game footage and make that determination.
 
PFF had Doug Free graded higher than Tyron Smith one year...

Yes I see you don’t like PFF when it goes against your argument. I remember you throwing those grades around about Williams.

They did have Martin ranked at 16th? seems accurate
 
Yes I see you don’t like PFF when it goes against your argument. I remember you throwing those grades around about Williams.

They did have Martin ranked at 16th? seems accurate

No, I have NEVER used PFF grades to defend Connor Williams!
 
If you watch game tape then you would agree connor williams is not a good player and the PFF grade corresponds with that assessment
I don't think he is saying Williams has been pro bowl level but compared to the rest of the OL in Dallas....... Williams hasn't been the worst player on the OL and it's not even close.
 


Cowboys ranked 22nd
34 pressures allowed
1.3 yards per contact


Too much investment in the o line to be ranked this low. Seeing cleveland ranked so high makes me not feel so good about sunday.


So who are all the turds that kept telling me that the Oline would be fine when I was worried about Looney, Williams, and Collins coming back on time?
 
Wrong.

How would you know. You don't watch "game tape".
I do. Hes not good but the udfa tackles are worse. Looney should be replaced with biadasz. I was hoping mcgovern could unseat connor but guess not. Connor is an athlete and was a natural at tackle. Putting a 6'5 6'6" guy inside against shorter heavier guys is idiotic with anyone that knows how leverage works
 
I don't think he is saying Williams has been pro bowl level but compared to the rest of the OL in Dallas....... Williams hasn't been the worst player on the OL and it's not even close.
Hes a 2nd round pick beating out 2 udfa tackles lol. It shouldnt be close lol
 
I do. Hes not good but the udfa tackles are worse. Looney should be replaced with biadasz. I was hoping mcgovern could unseat connor but guess not. Connor is an athlete and was a natural at tackle. Putting a 6'5 6'6" guy inside against shorter heavier guys is idiotic with anyone that knows how leverage works

Mark Stepnoski was not a big man, but he knew how leverage works. You don't always need a big old knucklehead at center. Maybe it's you that does not know how leverage works?
 
Mark Stepnoski was not a big man, but he knew how leverage works. You don't always need a big old knucklehead at center. Maybe it's you that does not know how leverage works?

I love Stepnoski. Dude was a master at leverage.
 


Cowboys ranked 22nd
34 pressures allowed
1.3 yards per contact


Too much investment in the o line to be ranked this low. Seeing cleveland ranked so high makes me not feel so good about sunday.

I “seen” this a couple days ago and am hoping it has
d more to do with who we played plus Tyron being out more than anything. I fully expect to be top 10 in about 4-5 weeks.
 

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