PFF Offensive scores vs Jets

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I'm only counting guys who played more than 20 snaps.

1. Zach Martin 77
2. Tavon Austin 71.9
3. Dak 65.5
4. Cam Fleming 64.5
5. Brandon Knight 62.7

Bottom 5.

1. Gallup 50.8 (worst game as a pro)
2. Jarwin 52.7
3. Conner Williams 53.4 (typical performance ......needs to be benched)
4. Fredbeard 56.7 (got mauled)
5. Cedric Wilson 60.5 (not terrible)

Other notables

Zeke 61.6
Witten 61.4
 
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Hmm. Can’t even get into the 80’s and most of our players struggle to get into the 70’s and that was just against the Jets. This is just pitiful. We’re really going to get mauled in the coming weeks. Buckle up.
 
I'm only counting guys who played more than 20 snaps.

1. Zach Martin 77
2. Tavon Austin 71.9
3. Dak 65.5
4. Cam Fleming 64.5
5. Brandon Knight 62.7

Bottom 5.

1. Gallup 50.8 (worst game as a pro)
2. Jarwin 52.7
3. Conner Williams 53.4 (typical performance ......needs to be benched)
4. Fredbeard 56.7 (got mauled)
5. Cedric Wilson 60.5 (not terrible)

Other notables

Zeke 61.6
Witten 61.4

Finally someone mentioned Frederick. I know he's still on his way back and I love the dudes toughness, but he's been pretty bad.
 
Freadbear kind of concerns me and doesn't at the same time. Hes the heart of the oline but has played mediocre at best however I'm glad to have him back even not at 100% as he contributes tons of knowledge and adjustments.

To miss an entire season the way he did I'm actually surprised hes actually in there

William's can we just.....
 
Fletcher Cox is going to have a field day going against CWilliams. They should start Sua' Filo. He at least held his own against Cox last year.
 
All around pretty mediocre to bad.

Cowboyszone: "We were competitive. It's okay"
 
Fletcher Cox is going to have a field day going against CWilliams. They should start Sua' Filo. He at least held his own against Cox last year.

LOL you understand he was blown off his feet more than I've seen a guard last season, right? Williams has been mediocre, but you're not talking about an upgrade here. What MIGHT help is, this wild idea, putting Collins back at guard and trying Williams at tackle. I'd rather solidify the interior of our offensive line and allow Collins, Fred beard, and Martin to do their thing together even if Williams is bad at RT.
 
LOL you understand he was blown off his feet more than I've seen a guard last season, right? Williams has been mediocre, but you're not talking about an upgrade here. What MIGHT help is, this wild idea, putting Collins back at guard and trying Williams at tackle. I'd rather solidify the interior of our offensive line and allow Collins, Fred beard, and Martin to do their thing together even if Williams is bad at RT.

So, you are going to move the best performing tackle in the NFL to G? Not happening.
 
I'm only counting guys who played more than 20 snaps.

1. Zach Martin 77
2. Tavon Austin 71.9
3. Dak 65.5
4. Cam Fleming 64.5
5. Brandon Knight 62.7

Bottom 5.

1. Gallup 50.8 (worst game as a pro)
2. Jarwin 52.7
3. Conner Williams 53.4 (typical performance ......needs to be benched)
4. Fredbeard 56.7 (got mauled)
5. Cedric Wilson 60.5 (not terrible)

Other notables

Zeke 61.6
Witten 61.4

If Frederick isn't back to his old self, then this season was over before it began. And with Smith and Collins out, its no wonder everything has fallen apart. We basically are starting 4 scrubs and a gimpy martin on our Oline.
 
So, you are going to move the best performing tackle in the NFL to G? Not happening.

You can give me all the ratings you want, if Collins is considered the "best" it's due to bad RT play this season more than anything else. He's a decent RT, but you can work with poor RT play. There's not a lot you can do about pressure up the middle.
 
LOL you understand he was blown off his feet more than I've seen a guard last season, right? Williams has been mediocre, but you're not talking about an upgrade here. What MIGHT help is, this wild idea, putting Collins back at guard and trying Williams at tackle. I'd rather solidify the interior of our offensive line and allow Collins, Fred beard, and Martin to do their thing together even if Williams is bad at RT.

Yeh have Collins who's been the best Olinmen change positions and then have Williams play a position he never played is going to help. Brilliant. This isn't Madden. :facepalm:
 
You can give me all the ratings you want, if Collins is considered the "best" it's due to bad RT play this season more than anything else. He's a decent RT, but you can work with poor RT play. There's not a lot you can do about pressure up the middle.

I've got PFF grades to back me up. What do you have other than some vague recollections?
 
If Frederick isn't back to his old self, then this season was over before it began. And with Smith and Collins out, its no wonder everything has fallen apart. We basically are starting 4 scrubs and a gimpy martin on our Oline.
Here come the excuses... it sounds like the Jets O-line... one solid All-Pro and some bums. This is how the other half lives, clown!
 
I've got PFF grades to back me up. What do you have other than some vague recollections?

Give me the RTs this year that are playing at a high level? Off the top of your head. Give me a list.

We're also talking about PFF who has Jason Peters ranked highly. Have you seen him play? I'm guessing not. PFF has always struggled grading certain positions for one reason or another.
 
Give me the RTs this year that are playing at a high level? Off the top of your head. Give me a list.

We're also talking about PFF who has Jason Peters ranked highly. Have you seen him play? I'm guessing not. PFF has always struggled grading certain positions for one reason or another.

PFF doesn't distinguish right from left tackles. Collins has been the highest graded tackle ,right or left ,since week 1. PFF has a great system for grading. It is not perfect but its better than any other system out there.

They grade every player on every play. Most fans just remember really bad plays or really good plays.
 

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