PFF: Pass Blocking Efficiency. - OG/C

[speedkilz88]

2010 Pass Blocking Efficiency: Guards and Centers
June 14th, 2011 | Author: Khaled Elsayed



When people think of pass protection the thing that immediately springs to mind are offensive tackles. Those guys dealing with the dominant defensive ends and outstanding outside linebackers.

No doubt it’s important, but it’s also important for a quarterback to be able to step up in the pocket and into his throws. For that you need guards and centers who can hold their ground and not let defensive tackles get a push or penetrate past them.

So Part 2 of our Pass Blocking (In)Efficiency week sees us turning our attention to those interior men doing just that.




Kyle Kosier #18 Top 20 OG
Andre Gurode #4 Top 20 C
Leonard Davis not Top or Bottom List

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/06/14/2010-pass-blocking-efficiency-guards-and-centers/








Josh Ellis Blog
Efficiency Ratings Of 'Boys Guards & Center Posted by jellis at 6/14/2011 1:58 PM CDT on dallascowboys.com


Yesterday, I posted a blog directing you to the pass blocking efficiency ratings put together by the stat gurus at ProFootballFocus.com, which rated Doug Free the No. 5 left tackle in football last year.

So today, since it's often difficult to assess offensive line play, I'll go back to the same well and point out the site's pass blocking efficiency rankings of guards and centers in 2010. Again, they use a formula which considers sacks allowed plus quarterback hits and hurries per pass play.




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[burmafrd]

wow this will really frost those that claim Gurode stinks.

Though I still really do not buy their stats.

 

[Staggerlee]

wow this will really frost those that claim Gurode stinks.

Though I still really do not buy their stats.

Gurode is a strange case indeed. Many say hes not that great, a few claim hes underrated, and he continually makes pro-bowls and these type of lists that back up the latter's argument. Sometimes I just don't see anything great about him, then other times I think maybe because he doesnt really jump off the screen at me and continually makes these lists means that he is that good.

 

[CowboyMike]

Gurode is a strange case indeed. Many say hes not that great, a few claim hes underrated, and he continually makes pro-bowls and these type of lists that back up the latter's argument. Sometimes I just don't see anything great about him, then other times I think maybe because he doesnt really jump off the screen at me and continually makes these lists means that he is that good.

As Bill Parcells would say, Gurode is the milk man. As in, you won't notice him until he's gone.

 

[baj1dallas]

Gurode is a strange case indeed. Many say hes not that great, a few claim hes underrated, and he continually makes pro-bowls and these type of lists that back up the latter's argument. Sometimes I just don't see anything great about him, then other times I think maybe because he doesnt really jump off the screen at me and continually makes these lists means that he is that good.

How many centers on other teams "jump off the screen" at you?

How many other teams have centers that start consistently for 5+ years and perform at least at an average level?

 

[Doomsday101]

As Bill Parcells would say, Gurode is the milk man. As in, you won't notice him until he's gone.

I agree. Gurode has been pretty solid for the Cowboys but when the line as a whole has played poorly every guy on the line takes more blame.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The problem with Gurode, IMO, is his inconsistency in the shotgun, his propensity to go on streaks where he seems to collect penalties but mostly, the fact that he is coming up for a contract. He is signed through 2012, which means, if we don't extend him this year, he's going to be an unrestricted free agent after the 2012 season. At least, I believe that is when the current contract expires. That puts a lot of pressure on us to either get something done or get a replacement ready. The question is, especially now that everybody is listing him as a top 100 player and one of the top 2 or 3 at the position, how much will he cost? We have two expensive Tackles, we have two Guard positions we are going to need to fill with quality starters and that's going to present problems with the cap IMO. That's the question to me.

 

[speedkilz88]

The problem with Gurode, IMO, is his inconsistency in the shotgun, his propensity to go on streaks where he seems to collect penalties but mostly, the fact that he is coming up for a contract. He is signed through 2012, which means, if we don't extend him this year, he's going to be an unrestricted free agent after the 2012 season. At least, I believe that is when the current contract expires. That puts a lot of pressure on us to either get something done or get a replacement ready. The question is, especially now that everybody is listing him as a top 100 player and one of the top 2 or 3 at the position, how much will he cost? We have two expensive Tackles, we have two Guard positions we are going to need to fill with quality starters and that's going to present problems with the cap IMO. That's the question to me.

That's two years, he will be 34 then and I think they do plan on having his replacement by then. Who knows maybe Nagy can be that guy?

 

[burmafrd]

By the end of this coming season, they need to take a good look at Nagy and decide if he is worth risking letting Gurode go. If not then they need to spend a higher pick on a center.

 

[Dodger]

No way this is true...Prisco, that jewel of sports reporting, said that Gurode was awful last year...

 

[gmoney112]

I cringe every time I see Gurode try and pick up a stunt. He can drive block with the best of them though.

 

[21Savage]

The problem with Gurode, IMO, is his inconsistency in the shotgun, his propensity to go on streaks where he seems to collect penalties but mostly, the fact that he is coming up for a contract. He is signed through 2012, which means, if we don't extend him this year, he's going to be an unrestricted free agent after the 2012 season. At least, I believe that is when the current contract expires. That puts a lot of pressure on us to either get something done or get a replacement ready. The question is, especially now that everybody is listing him as a top 100 player and one of the top 2 or 3 at the position, how much will he cost? We have two expensive Tackles, we have two Guard positions we are going to need to fill with quality starters and that's going to present problems with the cap IMO. That's the question to me.

Especially now? Really?

It's been that way for like the past 4 years; just because you don't see it doesn't mean that the league doesn't.

And he'll be 34 by then or older, like others have stated. I don't see resigning him while grooming his replacement as a problem at all.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Especially now? Really?

It's been that way for like the past 4 years; just because you don't see it doesn't mean that the league doesn't.

And he'll be 34 by then or older, like others have stated. I don't see resigning him while grooming his replacement as a problem at all.

Somebodies cranky.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Who on this team can realistically compete with Andre Gurode or Leonard Davis for a starting job at C or RG, respectively?

DEPTH! There in lies the problem with Dallas' OL. Last year proved it with OL injury woes to start the season; and in conjunction the team went 1-7. In the second half, the OL stabilized as best it could and the team started winning. There were other factors at play too, but elevated OL play was keenly one of them.

This is why Tyron Smith was "the pick" this year.

 

[Idgit]

Who on this team can realistically compete with Andre Gurode or Leonard Davis for a starting job at C or RG, respectively?

Which is saying a mouthful. Because Davis isn't much good at anything other than drive blocking. He doesn't pickup twists or stunts, and he's almost useless as anything other than an obstacle in space.

Other than the status of his contract (and I don't even know the details of that, honestly, except that I imagine it includes a decent cap hit), I don't know why we'd consider keeping him and not find a FA replacement this year. Honestly, if Holland could stay healthy, we'd be about as well off. And I don't think there is as much of a drop off between Costa and our starters as we'd like to think, either, frankly. Especially now that Costa's had a year in the training program (though that's been interrupted, too, this off season).

 

[burmafrd]

we have no real backup at center (that stupidity with Kosier notwithstanding).

 

[speedkilz88]

we have no real backup at center (that stupidity with Kosier notwithstanding).

Costa is the backup center which is really the only position he can legitimately play although he can line up at OG.

What exactly makes lining up Kosier at center stupid? Mark Stepnoski was a OG at Pitt, the Cowboys made him a center and had to teach him to snap the ball.

Kosier knows how to make the line calls and with his mobility he should make a better center than he did a OG if he learns how to snap. The stupidity imo was why did it take them this long to start trying to teach him to snap the ball?

 

[Idgit]

Costa is the backup center which is really the only position he can legitimately play although he can line up at OG.

What exactly makes lining up Kosier at center stupid? Mark Stepnoski was a OG at Pitt, the Cowboys made him a center and had to teach him to snap the ball.

Kosier knows how to make the line calls and with his mobility he should make a better center than he did a OG if he learns how to snap. The stupidity imo was why did it take them this long to start trying to teach him to snap the ball?

Costa did a decent job at OG when he was pressed into action last year. I don't think he's OC only. He's the sort of guy you can plug into a starting lineup and win with if you have to, and he could develop into an interior starter with the added time in the weight room.

 

[speedkilz88]

Costa did a decent job at OG when he was pressed into action last year. I don't think he's OC only. He's the sort of guy you can plug into a starting lineup and win with if you have to, and he could develop into an interior starter with the added time in the weight room.

Costa would have never made the team if it wasn't for being able to line up at either spot. If he was competing strictly at OG against Bright, then Bright would have been the one kept on the roster instead.

 

[Idgit]

Costa would have never made the team if it wasn't for being able to line up at either spot. If he was competing strictly at OG against Bright, then Bright would have been the one kept on the roster instead.

No idea how you're making that assessment. In any event, when Bigg and Holland were out, it was Costa we started against the Jags.