PFT: A clue to why Jared Gaither is available

[ThreeSportStar80]

That reporter has no credibility.

Gaither is a beast.


you guys are reading into the weed comment, it wasn't about gaither, it was to say he is lazy but at least he isn't a pothead.

Not sure where you guys got that it had anything to do with gaither smoking pot.

The concerns are with his work ethic... You shouldn't have to tell a guy making millions to "work harder".

 

[GOLDENCHILD1688]

I can't believe how many people can't understand what is going on with Gaither and the Ravens. The Ravens wanted to move him to RT and let their recent 1st round pick play LT. Gaither and his agent balked at this move because RTs make significantly less money than LTs. Basically, he won't re-sign with them for RT money so they will lose him for nothing when he becomes a FA. The Raven do not want to pay both tackles LT money so they want to get something of value for him while they can. This has all been reported by Balt media and its a fairly simple situation to understand. It may be true that he has a poor work ethic but that isn't why Balt wants to trade him. They would like to keep him to play RT and pay him like a RT but thats not going to happen so they want a good pick for him before he leaves as a FA.

spot on

makes complete sense and as simple as it is to understand people keep overlooking this

 

[Manwiththeplan]

They may think Oher is a better LT. They also may feel Oher's talent isn't being utilized at RT.

It's cost effective. They will save a ton of money playing Oher at LT with his current contract. Gaither want's a LT contract now. Probably somewhere in the 45-50 mil range. You wouldn't have to pay that if Gaither isn't there. Oher will not ask for another contract for another 2 years or so. Meanwhile your saving alot of money between then.


Gaither will be an UFA next year, so why not get something for him now?

I think it's a pretty simple concept.

It's also cost effective to cut anyone not making the vet min. However, the Ravens haven't been accused of being a cheap organization, so there's no logical reason to believe that there's no concern over Gaither himself, instead of it only being a cost cutting move.

 

[blindzebra]

So why would we want him again?

He wants a big contract, we will need to pay him the money we just cut when we cut Flo. We have a LT making 625K that we will be able to extend at a much more reasonable rate.

It's stupid.

 

[Idgit]

how obvious do my jokes need to be?

seriously.

credibility? who is the only one on here who uses that word, who is also the only one pimping gaither like it's his sugar daddy?

it shouldn't be this hard for people to see jokes.

From now on, Four, just end your posts with 'so, that would be amusing.' So we'll know when we're *supposed* to laugh. As opposed to when we're laughing at something you meant to be serious.

 

[Nexx]

i would give them a 2nd today easily. draft iupati with the 27th or trade up and get pouncey.

Gaither, Iuptai/Pouncey, Gurode, Davis, Free

Columbo and Kosier as backups

Thats a super bowl calibur offensive line with depth.

 

[dbair1967]

They may think Oher is a better LT. They also may feel Oher's talent isn't being utilized at RT.

It's cost effective. They will save a ton of money playing Oher at LT with his current contract. Gaither want's a LT contract now. Probably somewhere in the 45-50 mil range. You wouldn't have to pay that if Gaither isn't there. Oher will not ask for another contract for another 2 years or so. Meanwhile your saving alot of money between then.


Gaither will be an UFA next year, so why not get something for him now?

I think it's a pretty simple concept.

Ravens | C. Brown meets with OL coach
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Sun, 11 Apr 2010 19:12:26 -0700

Ed Thompson, of Scout.com, reports Southern California OT Charles Brown said he has met with the Baltimore Ravens' offensive line coach before his school's Pro Day.

Hmm, wonder what position Charles Brown would play for the Ravens?

 

[Cowboys22]

Oher isn't making "left tackle money." His contract is tiny (5 years, $13.75 million). And it will continue to be tiny until 2015.

I can't believe how many people think just because someone is drafted in the first round, they must be making ridiculous money.

Oher will command LT money in the next few years. If you give Gaither LT money now on a 5-6 year deal, you will have 3-4 years of paying both tackles LT money. Its just good business to try and get a valuable pick for a guy you know you can't re-sign because they aren't going to give him LT money to play RT.

 

[zrinkill]

This poor work ethic stuff was said about Bigg before he came here also.

If I remember correctly.
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[Manwiththeplan]

Oher will command LT money in the next few years. If you give Gaither LT money now on a 5-6 year deal, you will have 3-4 years of paying both tackles LT money. Its just good business to try and get a valuable pick for a guy you know you can't re-sign because they aren't going to give him LT money to play RT.

Again, they don't have to resign Oher till 2014. 2015 if they franchise him once. So if they sign Gaither to a five year deal, they only have to pay one guy LT money, but get 2 quality guys right?

This is obviously about more than saving money, just want to see one Gaither supporter admit that this is a risky move, especially when giving up a 2nd.

 

[CATCH17]

So why would we want him again?

He wants a big contract, we will need to pay him the money we just cut when we cut Flo. We have a LT making 625K that we will be able to extend at a much more reasonable rate.

It's stupid.

You know Flo would've got his money if he were 24 years old dont you?

And the front office shouldn't care about reasonable rates at that position.

If they don't feel like Free can develop into a better player than Gaither than go get Gaither. If they do than stick with Free.

 

[dbair1967]

Oher will command LT money in the next few years. If you give Gaither LT money now on a 5-6 year deal, you will have 3-4 years of paying both tackles LT money. Its just good business to try and get a valuable pick for a guy you know you can't re-sign because they aren't going to give him LT money to play RT.

Steve Hutchinson and Leonard Davis are guards, what kind of money did they get?

You guys need to quit trying to rationalize this to spin for Gaither. Baltimore is a fairly smart franchise, they typically dont do dumb things. They want to get rid of this guy. Its not that they dont want to pay him. Its that they firmyl beleive he isnt worth the investment. And it has nothing to do with having Oher around.

 

[dbair1967]

This poor work ethic stuff was said about Bigg before he came here also.

If I remember correctly.
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Yeah, but that was coming from Cardinal people, who had been running a terrible organization for years.

The Ravens arnt the Cardinals.

 

[theogt]

Oher will command LT money in the next few years. If you give Gaither LT money now on a 5-6 year deal, you will have 3-4 years of paying both tackles LT money. Its just good business to try and get a valuable pick for a guy you know you can't re-sign because they aren't going to give him LT money to play RT.

Yes, Oher will command LT money in the year 2014.

Not 2010, which is what you stated, or at least implied. You just made the common mistake of assuming that he was making a lot of money due to being drafted in the first round.

 

[Gaede]

This poor work ethic stuff was said about Bigg before he came here also.

If I remember correctly.
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And Flo too, I think....

I think he'd be worth a second rounder...Wouldn't risk a first--but I think I'd be okay with the 2nd

 

[Cowboys22]

Yes, Oher will command LT money in the year 2014.

Not 2010, which is what you stated, or at least implied. You just made the common mistake of assuming that he was making a lot of money due to being drafted in the first round.

No, I didn't. They will have to sign Oher at some point and I would think it would be before 2014 as to avoid any holdout or other contract driven issue. Gaither and his agent want LT money. They simply don't want to pay him LT money to play RT. That was my point and I believe it to be the case. If he would sign for RT money, I think Balt would have already re-signed him.

 

[blindzebra]

You know Flo would've got his money if he were 24 years old dont you?

And the front office shouldn't care about reasonable rates at that position.

If they don't feel like Free can develop into a better player than Gaither than go get Gaither. If they do than stick with Free.

Anytime you can get similar results at more reasonable cost you always do it. It is a business, there will be a cap again. You will have to pay Miles. You have several contracts (Barber, Williams, Gurode, Davis and Newman) that take up almost a third of last years cap number and if we don't part with them now we will be up against the cap when we do.

So we have a player with questionable history, a team talking to OT in the draft, a player wanting a big pay day, the cost of a pick in the prime value area of this draft, all when we have a player in house who played well out of position.

It doesn't make sense as a business or football decision.

 

[burmafrd]

Lot of that is rumor and conjection. And lets remember one thing- no team is perfect; the Ravens can screw up and have. So just because they want to trade him is not the final word on what he is worth or what he can do.