PFT: A proposed tweaking of the Thanksgiving formula

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Posted by Mike Florio on November 27, 2009 4:22 PM ET

Despite the fact that the Lions, as expected, lost by 22 in Thursday's early game and the Cowboys, as expected, won by 17, we don't believe that these two traditional Thanksgiving hosts should lose their hammerlock on the fourth-Thursday-in-November games.

Indeed, as last night's 26-6 log-sawer between the Giants and Broncos proved, there's no guarantee that a rotation will result in more interesting action.

But there's one major area in which the league can balance out the Thanksgiving (and, for that matter, the Thursday Night Football) experience.

With only three days to prepare for the Thanksgiving games, the road teams devote a chunk of those hours to travel. Though none of the three road teams played away from home on Sunday, which would have created two trips between the end of the Sunday game and the start of the Thursday contest, each of the home teams on Thanksgiving played a home game on the preceding Sunday.

So why not set up the schedule so that the teams hosting Thanksgiving games always play a road game on the prior Sunday? This would balance out the travel burden for both teams who play in a given Thanksgiving game.

We'd also extend this approach to every Thursday game, since it would impose on both teams who have to prepare quickly for another game a requirement to load up the players and the equipment and all the other stuff and move from one city to another.

But, like many of our ideas, this one probably makes too much sense to ever be taken seriously.
 

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Sounds to me like another effort to take away any perceived advantage to the Cowboys by playing at home on Thanksgiving Day & at home the Sunday before Thanksgiving Day. It sure doesn't affect the Lions since they always seem to lose that day anyway.
 

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I dont want to hear **** from the rest of then NFL. Back in 1966 when the NFL asked the rest of the league who wanted to play on Thanksgiving all the owners scoffed and laughed and wanted no part of it. Tex Schramm stepped up realizing putting his team on the national stage was not only good for the team but would offer a competitive advantage and after beating the Cleveland Browns in their first Thanksgiving game which was a key part of winning their first Eastern championship history was written.

From that point in history till now there is no larger draw for the NFL then the Dallas Cowboys and with out them on Thanksgiving it would be a empty business move that would soon find it's self risking non existence on what has become a tradition for non-Cowboys fans and Cowboys fan alike.
 

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I hope this doesn't happen.

I've looked back at the Cowboy's schedules over the years, and about 80% of the time, we have a home game before Thanksgiving, and that's just the way I like it. Makes for a nice Thanksgiving week trip out to visit the in-laws for me to be able to catch two games.
 

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Danny White;3106190 said:
I hope this doesn't happen.

I've looked back at the Cowboy's schedules over the years, and about 80% of the time, we have a home game before Thanksgiving, and that's just the way I like it. Makes for a nice Thanksgiving week trip out to visit the in-laws for me to be able to catch two games.

We've played 42 times on Thanksgiving Day. Twenty of those came after being on the road in our previous game.

When we were at home in our previous game, we're 14-8 (.636) on Thanksgiving.

When we were on the road in our previous game, we're 13-6-1 (.675) on Thanksgiving.
 

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Posted by Mike Florio on November 27, 2009 4:22 PM ET

Blah blah blah...

Fixed

Posted by Mike Florio on November 27, 2009 4:22 PM ET

But, like many of our ideas, this one probably makes too much sense to ever be taken seriously.

Uh not really
 

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AdamJT13;3106199 said:
We've played 42 times on Thanksgiving Day. Twenty of those came after being on the road in our previous game.

When we were at home in our previous game, we're 14-8 (.636) on Thanksgiving.

When we were on the road in our previous game, we're 13-6-1 (.675) on Thanksgiving.
I knew I'd get in trouble with you if I started using statistics. :D

Is it possible that we've been at home more in recent history, because I could swear I looked it up after I got my season tix and going back a few years, it seemed like most of the games we had before Thanksgiving were home games?
 

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So they're gonna make it even harder for Detroit to win? Brilliant.
 

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AdamJT13;3106199 said:
We've played 42 times on Thanksgiving Day. Twenty of those came after being on the road in our previous game.

When we were at home in our previous game, we're 14-8 (.636) on Thanksgiving.

When we were on the road in our previous game, we're 13-6-1 (.675) on Thanksgiving.

Thanks for saving me the research Adam. :bow:

These talking heads have no idea what they are talking about. :bang2:
 

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Danny White;3106207 said:
I knew I'd get in trouble with you if I started using statistics. :D

Is it possible that we've been at home more in recent history, because I could swear I looked it up after I got my season tix and going back a few years, it seemed like most of the games we had before Thanksgiving were home games?

Yes, we've had a road game before the Thanksgiving game only once in the past nine years (2004).

Here are all of our Thanksgiving games that came after a road game --

2004 beat Chicago 21-7
2000 lost to Minnesota 27-15
1999 beat Miami 20-0
1997 lost to Tennessee 27-14
1996 beat Washington 21-10
1995 beat Kansas City 24-12
1993 lost to Miami 16-14
1992 beat Giants 30-3
1991 beat Pittsburgh 20-10
1990 beat Washington 27-17
1986 lost to Seattle 31-14
1984 beat New England 20-17
1979 lost to Houston 30-24
1976 beat Cardinals 19-14
1974 beat Washington 24-23
1972 lost to San Francisco 31-10
1971 beat Rams 28-21
1970 beat Green Bay 16-3
1969 tied San Francisco 24-24
1968 beat Washington 29-20


Whether we have been at home or away before the Thanksgiving game has gone in waves. Our first Thanksgiving game came in 1967, and we didn't play on Thanksgiving in 1975 or 1977, so seven of the first nine came after a road game. From 1978 to 1989, only three out of 12 came after a road game. From 1990 to 2000, nine out of 11 came after a road game. And only one of the past nine has come after a road game.
 

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bbgun;3106208 said:
So they're gonna make it even harder for Detroit to win? Brilliant.

It sounded like a good idea, but then I saw Adam's stats and realize it doesn't really make a difference.
 

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People want to attribute too much to spurious associations. As the statistics show, our record is about the same regardless of whether we play at home or away before Thanksgiving. People just need to let it rest.....
 

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AdamJT13;3106236 said:
Yes, we've had a road game before the Thanksgiving game only once in the past nine years (2004).

Here are all of our Thanksgiving games that came after a road game --

2004 beat Chicago 21-7
2000 lost to Minnesota 27-15
1999 beat Miami 20-0
1997 lost to Tennessee 27-14
1996 beat Washington 21-10
1995 beat Kansas City 24-12
1993 lost to Miami 16-14
1992 beat Giants 30-3
1991 beat Pittsburgh 20-10
1990 beat Washington 27-17
1986 lost to Seattle 31-14
1984 beat New England 20-17
1979 lost to Houston 30-24
1976 beat Cardinals 19-14
1974 beat Washington 24-23
1972 lost to San Francisco 31-10
1971 beat Rams 28-21
1970 beat Green Bay 16-3
1969 tied San Francisco 24-24
1968 beat Washington 29-20


Whether we have been at home or away before the Thanksgiving game has gone in waves. Our first Thanksgiving game came in 1967, and we didn't play on Thanksgiving in 1975 or 1977, so seven of the first nine came after a road game. From 1978 to 1989, only three out of 12 came after a road game. From 1990 to 2000, nine out of 11 came after a road game. And only one of the past nine has come after a road game.

Thanks... That looks to me like someone (Jerry?) complained after having a string of road games before Turkey Day, and that we've had very few since.
 

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I'd be very disappointed if they changed this. The Lions and Cowboys playing someone on Thanksgiving has been a tradition all this time and is something I've looked forward to as part of my Thanksgiving Day my entire life. I'd be pretty upset if that got changed just because some of these other teams suddenly think it's unfair.
 

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SDogo;3106181 said:
I dont want to hear **** from the rest of then NFL. Back in 1966 when the NFL asked the rest of the league who wanted to play on Thanksgiving all the owners scoffed and laughed and wanted no part of it. Tex Schramm stepped up realizing putting his team on the national stage was not only good for the team but would offer a competitive advantage and after beating the Cleveland Browns in their first Thanksgiving game which was a key part of winning their first Eastern championship history was written.
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Agree 100%...the rest of the teams back then missed the opportunity so the Cowboys and Lions shouldn't be punished.

The problem with that is that the vast majority of football fans have no sense of history and don't know any of that. Heck, I'd bet Goodell doesn't even know.
 

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As Adam pointed out, the stats show that it really doesnt make much difference if we play on the road or at home the Sunday before Thanksgiving.
 
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