PFT: CeeDee, no one deserves the criticism Dak gets

[America's Cowboy]

Just stop already with the BS back and forth that accomplishes nothing but arguing. No minds will be changed with any of this so what is the point other than agitating people for no reason other than an individual's own ego.

Why don't y'all stop? Heed your own advice. You want us team/player supporters to stop, but y'all can keep on ridiculing, bashing and acting out?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Romo was a choker and Dak is a choker. Still don't know why anyone cares.

I never thought we would go anywhere with Romo either after we started losing division titles to our rivals in play-in games. He just didn't have it. It's the same way it is with Dak.

Romo's stats say you are wrong. Id post them...but if you STILL label Tony this big choker...then you don't really care about stats and facts.

I ain;t saying he never screwed up. But..HE...was not afraid to TRY...even with inferior team. Unlike our current QB who'd rather throw it on the dirt.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Romo didn't have a championship roster around him?

Not many seasons...no. You think Patrick Crayton is a championship WR?: Heck even the wonderful Miles Austin flamed out leaving Romo. Meanwhile....Cooper is a 1000+ yard WR on the dysfunctional Browns.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Your community? Y'all are the same bunch from the old threads. Gang up on those who don't agree with y'all's ignorance. Then you play the victims. Same crap as the old threads.

You see...this is why I call you a liar. I never said "my community" But there you go...claiming I said that.

Look again..."OUR".

You are a congenital liar. You just can't help yourself.

I said "stop responding"...sure. But I just couldn't help taking the opportunity yet again...to show you just keep on lying.

 

[America's Cowboy]

You see...this is why I call you a liar. I never said "my community" But there you go...claiming I said that.

Look again..."OUR".

You are a congenital liar. You just can't help yourself.

I said "stop responding"...sure. But I just couldn't help taking the opportunity yet again...to show you just keep on lying.

"Our" in your view means you and those who only think like you, because you most certainly do not respect those who support our current QB, and you know it! So stop playing the victim when you're the one who attacks.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Romo's stats say you are wrong. Id post them...but if you STILL label Tony this big choker...then you don't really care about stats and facts.

I ain;t saying he never screwed up. But..HE...was not afraid to TRY...even with inferior team. Unlike our current QB who'd rather throw it on the dirt.

I don't care about stats. I always said Romo was the stats king. Won't get him in the HOF. I think he's an overall better QB then Dak but that's about it. He was exciting to watch. I'll give him that but more times then not just heartbreaking.

 

[basel90]

$40M and Dallas Cowboys QB....comes with the territory.



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CeeDee Lamb: No one deserves the criticism Dak Prescott gets​

Posted by Charean Williams on February 8, 2023, 6:29 PM EST

The Cowboys moved on from offensive coordinator Kellen Moore after the season-ending loss to the 49ers. But some fans have spent the past two weeks clamoring for a new coach and a new quarterback.

Mike McCarthy and Dak Prescott have been easy targets for blame following the franchise’s 27th consecutive season without a trip to the NFC Championship Game.

when you top receiver is making apology for the QB , then the QB is bad. Only the cowboys have such drama. Cee Dee is a nice kind soul and genuinely loves Dak , but maybe to Cee Dee's detriment . Hope we can afford to keep Cee Dee.

 

[Qcard]

when you top receiver is making apology for the QB , then the QB is bad. Only the cowboys have such drama. Cee Dee is a nice kind soul and genuinely loves Dak , but maybe to Cee Dee's detriment . Hope we can afford to keep Cee Dee.

See Dak Haters are Imbeciles....

It's not about CeeDee performances to determine IF we keep Lamb...

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

when you top receiver is making apology for the QB , then the QB is bad. Only the cowboys have such drama. Cee Dee is a nice kind soul and genuinely loves Dak , but maybe to Cee Dee's detriment . Hope we can afford to keep Cee Dee.

Oh so you personally know CeeDee? Well okay then thank you for your incredible 1st hand expertise.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I don't care about stats. I always said Romo was the stats king. Won't get him in the HOF. I think he's an overall better QB then Dak but that's about it. He was exciting to watch. I'll give him that but more times then not just heartbreaking.

In some agreement here...but....

"more times than not.....heartbreaking".

He broke your heart MORE times...than not? Odd.

And Dak HASN'T? Even being an inferior QB?

I dunno man. I just can;t figure ya out. Oh well. Ya have a great day...enjoy the SB!

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

"Our" in your view means you and those who only think like you, because you most certainly do not respect those who support our current QB, and you know it! So stop playing the victim when you're the one who attacks.

No sir. "our" as in YOU and me and EVERYONE.

I can see why we fight. You seem to have a problem with reading comprehension.


PS...I actually DO respond to support of our QB. I also respond to criticizing Zeke...and God knows I've got crap for zeke love. I am on record as saying we can win with Dak. You won;t find me blasting him....but hey...if you CAN find it...maybe I can clarify.

SOME criticism of Dak....iasn't "hate", mkay?

You only see or remember what serves your crusade agenda.

If I "attack"...please report me to forum admin. There's no shame in it if you mean it. If you are a MAN of your word.

Otherwise...stop that immature nonsense....especially when you insult SO many people yourself.

 

[TheSport78]

Ceedee Lamb fits in perfectly with the country club atmosphere in Dallas. He'll be a player that puts up consistent stats. He will get paid handsomely, will never win a SB trophy and will be completely content with it.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

In some agreement here...but....

"more times than not.....heartbreaking".

He broke your heart MORE times...than not? Odd.

And Dak HASN'T? Even being an inferior QB?

I dunno man. I just can;t figure ya out. Oh well. Ya have a great day...enjoy the SB!

Dak is starting to do that too. the last 2 playoff games against SF he was bad. I'm ready to move on but of course we won't.

You have a great day too. Go Chiefs.

 

[America's Cowboy]

No sir. "our" as in YOU and me and EVERYONE.

I can see why we fight. You seem to have a problem with reading comprehension.


PS...I actually DO respond to support of our QB. I also respond to criticizing Zeke...and God knows I've got crap for zeke love. I am on record as saying we can win with Dak. You won;t find me blasting him....but hey...if you CAN find it...maybe I can clarify.

SOME criticism of Dak....iasn't "hate", mkay?

You only see or remember what serves your crusade agenda.

If I "attack"...please report me to forum admin. There's no shame in it if you mean it. If you are a MAN of your word.

Otherwise...stop that immature nonsense....especially when you insult SO many people yourself.

Insult? You just whined petulantly how I make this forum so unpleasant because I don't side with y'all towards bashing and giving up hope on Dak. Grow up, dude. This isn't the 3rd grade where you get to get your groupies and gang up on the students who don't agree with y'all's agenda. How old are you?

 

[CowboyRoy]

Romo didn't have a championship roster around him?

No. And he had garrett

 

[America's Cowboy]

No. And he had garrett

A franchise record 13 Pro Bowlers with a top 10 Oline, top 12 Defense, a top 3 TE, a HOF WR, good receiving group, good RBs and good special teams in 2007. But Romo had no championship team around him? He had a better overall team than the good team he had in 2014. Romo had at least 2 years of being surrounded with a potential championship team talent.

 

[Gator88]

A franchise record 13 Pro Bowlers with a top 10 Oline, top 12 Defense, a top 3 TE, a HOF WR, good receiving group, good RBs and good special teams in 2007. But Romo had no championship team around him? He had a better overall team than the good team he had in 2014. Romo had at least 2 years of being surrounded with a potential championship team talent.

The oline was incredibly overrated in 2007, it was below average at best in pass blocking.

The 2007 defense was a worse ranked scoring defense than any defense Dak has had when he didn't miss the majority of the season.

The HOF WR was quite injured in the playoffs and wasn't close to his regular self.

The RBs weren't anything special. Barber was a good short yardage rb and pass blocker, but that's not that valuable, just ask Zeke.

Other than that, having a great TE, and a solid special teams unit is cool.

 

[America's Cowboy]

The oline was incredibly overrated in 2007, it was below average at best in pass blocking.

The 2007 defense was a worse ranked scoring defense than any defense Dak has had when he didn't miss the majority of the season.

The HOF WR was quite injured in the playoffs and wasn't close to his regular self.

The RBs weren't anything special. Barber was a good short yardage rb and pass blocker, but that's not that valuable, just ask Zeke.

Other than that, having a great TE, and a solid special teams unit is cool.

In 2007, Cowboys Oline was ranked 10th overall (7th in pass protection; 14th in run blocking).

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/imported/ol

In 2007, the Cowboys scoring Defense was ranked 13th in scoring average given up per game (20.3 points average).

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/nfl-defensive-rankings-2007

That's not bad at all. Much better than most of the Defenses Dak has had when not injured.

Dallas Cowboys scoring Defense points per game scoring average given up by year when Dak has been healthy:

2016: 19.1 points per game average
2017: 20.8
2018: 20.3
2019: 20.1
2021: 21.1

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/nfl-defensive-rankings-2021

As you can see, only 2 out of the 5 scoring Defenses Dak has played with when healthy had better scoring Defenses than what Romo had in 2007. This means 3 of the 5 were equal or worse than what Romo had in 2007, certainly the opposite of what you stated.

I would go into the WRs and RBs comparisons, but I'm pretty sure I would be correct in my comparisons once again. Darn the internet and those pesky things called facts. lol

 

[CowboyRoy]

A franchise record 13 Pro Bowlers with a top 10 Oline, top 12 Defense, a top 3 TE, a HOF WR, good receiving group, good RBs and good special teams in 2007. But Romo had no championship team around him? He had a better overall team than the good team he had in 2014. Romo had at least 2 years of being surrounded with a potential championship team talent.

He had a really good team one year, but no it wasnt true championship caliber. Top 12 defense isnt good enough with a top 10 Oline.

And one or two years with a good team doesnt mean much in a career.

None of those teams were championship caliber. You look at the teams of the Niners, Eagles and those are championship teams around the QB. Heck the job the Oline did for Mahomes last night was incredible. And then the coaching?

Both teams so well coached. It was incredible to see. Garrett was one of the worst coaches in history. Mahomes losses with Garrett as a HC and the perfect team around him.

 

[Big_D]

In 2007, Cowboys Oline was ranked 10th overall (7th in pass protection; 14th in run blocking).

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/imported/ol

In 2007, the Cowboys scoring Defense was ranked 13th in scoring average given up per game (20.3 points average).

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/nfl-defensive-rankings-2007

That's not bad at all. Much better than most of the Defenses Dak has had when not injured.

Dallas Cowboys scoring Defense points per game scoring average given up by year when Dak has been healthy:

2016: 19.1 points per game average
2017: 20.8
2018: 20.3
2019: 20.1
2021: 21.1

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/nfl-defensive-rankings-2021

As you can see, only 2 out of the 5 scoring Defenses Dak has played with when healthy had better scoring Defenses than what Romo had in 2007. This means 3 of the 5 were equal or worse than what Romo had in 2007, certainly the opposite of what you stated.

I would go into the WRs and RBs comparisons, but I'm pretty sure I would be correct in my comparisons once again. Darn the internet and those pesky things called facts. lol

Facts? lol You only mention Romo’s first year as a starter. What happened in 2008, 9,10,11,12 & 13? The reality of what Jerry did in that time frame.. It doesn’t really get peskier than that. Pretending Dak is in that same situation is actually comical. Funny when the guys ripping Romo mention only 2007 and 2014 but completely disregard the ridiculous 6 years inbetween. One QB has had the consistency that the other simply didn’t have .. that is a fact.