News: PFT: Could a settlement happen in the Elliott case?

[viman96]

I would be shocked if the NFL settled. In addition to already looking like idiots, they would look weak.

 

[Reality]

The Injunction was a civil action but now that the actual domestic violence case is going before the court and is considered a crime against the community and the (State), it is therefore considered a criminal matter.

Really not sure where you got that from, but that is completely wrong. For this case to be considered "criminal", a federal or state government would have be prosecuting it. It would also mean that Elliott was at risk of a criminal judgement, which he is not.

 

[Nirvana]

They bungled the investigation and proceedings so thoroughly that this is a lay up for Zeke's attorney. No suspension.

 

[Don Corleone]

There is no double jeopardy in "conduct detrimental to the league" rulings by the NFL. "Double Jeopardy" is a legal term used in criminal prosecutions.

This sets a dangerous precedent. The NFL put the exposed breast incident to rest in the suspension ruling. Do you support them resurrecting a past incident to suspend a player? So now they can suspend any player at any time based on some past incident on the rhap sheet, for which there was no punishment the first time around.

 

[Nightman]

The only thing that worries me is the Playoffs.........I asked an NFL agent and he said that Zeke COULD be suspended for the Playoffs

I have seen many different answers but nothing definitive to this......I couldn't find it int he CBA

I do know that RGregory was suspended last year in the Playoffs and Suh was set to miss our game before Goodell/Mara intervened

 

[Reality]

This sets a dangerous precedent. The NFL put the exposed breast incident to rest in the suspension ruling. Do you support them resurrecting a past incident to suspend a player? So now they can suspend any player at any time based on some past incident on the rhap sheet, for which there was no punishment the first time around.

Do "I" support them (NFL) doing this? Heck no! I think they should cut their losses and run from all of this as fast as possible.

 

[Established1971]

Could a settlement happen in the Elliott case?

That’s not to say Elliott would take the literal middle ground of a three-game suspension. But how about a one- or two-game suspension for pulling down the woman’s top at the St. Patrick’s Day parade? While the league didn’t discipline him for that, the incident was mentioned in the letter informing Elliott of his six-game suspension. Also, there’s no way anyone can dispute that it happened, since it’s on video.

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Right or wrong, the league concluded that Elliott committed domestic violence. Reducing the suspension without an admission from Elliott that he committed domestic violence would create a potential P.R. problem for the league, creating the impression that it was too soft on domestic abuse. If, in turn, the league admits that it botched the investigation and disciplinary process, that won’t be good for business, either.

So even if Elliott were willing to accept a suspension for something other than domestic abuse, the league may have no good way out of the corner into which it has painted itself. Which means that the league’s only choice may be to wait in that corner for a lifeline from an appeals court.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/09/09/could-a-settlement-happen-in-the-elliott-case/

Elliot has been a pro 1 year. If he accepts anything, he should be able to get on to his career and cash in on a huge contract down the road but his reputation and ability to get even 1 endorsement would be gone.

 

[Bleedblue1111]

The only thing that worries me is the Playoffs.........I asked an NFL agent and he said that Zeke COULD be suspended for the Playoffs

I have seen many different answers but nothing definitive to this......I couldn't find it int he CBA

I do know that RGregory was suspended last year in the Playoffs and Suh was set to miss our game before Goodell/Mara intervened

Yeah I didn't get that. What Sue did was equivalent, or worse to Burfict. Yet, they suspended Burfict immediately. No consistency with this lousy commissioner.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

There's no settlement in this case. This is wishful thinking for Florio.

Kessler gave Goodell and Henderson an out. They could have said 'hey, we didn't know what Roberts' opinion was of the case and we just based it off of what Friel said.' That would have provided them with the out they needed to do a mea culpa and Friel would have been their fall guy (gal). Instead, they stuck to this and even upped the ante and did every little weaselly attempt to screw over the case that they claim they felt so confident in.

And you can forget the NFL coming back with the St. Paddy's Day incident on EE. It's not going to happen.





YR

 

[jobberone]

Pulling someone's top up is assault if it is unwelcomed but it is not DV. The league would have a difficult time trying to turn that into DV. Since she didn't complain they have nothing but conduct detrimental to the league and that's a stretch as well just not nearly as much.

The league needs to find a way out of this mess by withdrawing and threatening to address it later. Enough time goes by and people will forget it and it goes away by itself albeit not completely.

 

[Don Corleone]

Do "I" support them (NFL) doing this? Heck no! I think they should cut their losses and run from all of this as fast as possible.

I completely agree. I can't wait to see how they investigate Jarvis Landry for his DV incident. Police were called. No charges filed. Sound familiar?

I expect a 6 game suspension because he found himself in that situation.

 

[viman96]

Can you pull your chips from the center of the table?! The NFL went all in months ago.

 

[Swanny]

i would accept a 50k fine for pulling the top down since it was on video.

Nothing more than that....but even that...how fo they know that this wasnt their relationship?

I'd accept a complete removal of his 6 game suspension, admission from the league they were wrong on the case and in calling Zeke a women beater. Then I would accept a 1-2 game suspension for #tittygate.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

That sounds familiar ..

Yeah I wrote it a few weeks ago

 

[Lutonio]

Maybe 2 weeks ago but not anymore

 

[Cowboys_22]

No negotiation. Goodell needs to face the music.

 

[Redball Express]

Could a settlement happen in the Elliott case?

That’s not to say Elliott would take the literal middle ground of a three-game suspension. But how about a one- or two-game suspension for pulling down the woman’s top at the St. Patrick’s Day parade? While the league didn’t discipline him for that, the incident was mentioned in the letter informing Elliott of his six-game suspension. Also, there’s no way anyone can dispute that it happened, since it’s on video.

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Right or wrong, the league concluded that Elliott committed domestic violence. Reducing the suspension without an admission from Elliott that he committed domestic violence would create a potential P.R. problem for the league, creating the impression that it was too soft on domestic abuse. If, in turn, the league admits that it botched the investigation and disciplinary process, that won’t be good for business, either.

So even if Elliott were willing to accept a suspension for something other than domestic abuse, the league may have no good way out of the corner into which it has painted itself. Which means that the league’s only choice may be to wait in that corner for a lifeline from an appeals court.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/09/09/could-a-settlement-happen-in-the-elliott-case/

The league needs to get out of the suspension process.

They need to only issue suspensions when law is broken.

They are arrogant to investigate and punish players as well.

It needs to board of review to listen to evidence from legal police cases only.

If no charges are preferred..no suspension..

their behavior in these matters reminds me of **** courts against undesirables when 100,000s of thousands were tried and sentenced with thin charges of wrong doing.

We do not have any of these issues in baseball,basketball, hockey, auto racing or vertually any other sport.

This is wrong what is going on.

It needs to be fixed.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Pulling someone's top up is assault if it is unwelcomed but it is not DV. The league would have a difficult time trying to turn that into DV. Since she didn't complain they have nothing but conduct detrimental to the league and that's a stretch as well just not nearly as much.

The league needs to find a way out of this mess by withdrawing and threatening to address it later. Enough time goes by and people will forget it and it goes away by itself albeit not completely.

It is NOT assault.

It's indecent exposure.





YR

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

I'd accept a complete removal of his 6 game suspension, admission from the league they were wrong on the case and in calling Zeke a women beater. Then I would accept a 1-2 game suspension for #tittygate.

Maybe a few weeks ago but not now. What they did to Zeke is a lot worse than him pulling a girl's top down who didn't care.. The NFL should suspend Goodell for a year for being detrimental to the league.

 

[EPL0c0]

I personally want to see Goodell have to take the stand...I want him embarrassed,,,I want him and Friel fired.

I want to hear after Ray Rice, Greg Hardy, Adrian Peterson, all that.. what all went into deciding 1-game for Josh Brown.

I know they've since tried to make up for it by issuing an additional 6 games, but we're talking about a case that required ZERO investigation because Brown admitted to 20+ incidents.

I think it's something the fans and especially the players deserve to know. Are they really being treated fairly by the league?