PFT: Former No. 3 Overall pick Trey Lance to hit free agency

[jazzcat22]

This FO isnt run like a normal FO, we need to stop comparing their thought process to normal people.

Abby Normal?

 

[LACowboysFan1]

What a waste of a trade for our 4th round pick. smdh

Agreed.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

This isn't the same as drafting a player in the 4th round, although even those drafted in the 4th round are sometimes considered developmental and are definitely not considered as sure things guaranteed to get notable playing time.

The ability to use a 4th round pick to acquire a player that was considered as having 1st round talent is not the norm. Maybe 3rd overall in the draft was too high, but every team saw him as a 1st round draft pick.

A player that prior to NFL was considered top talent. Lots of players get evaluated each year and half fail in NFL.

Lance was in NFL for two years, got to play some games and practice a lot and get coached by NFL coaches. So this wasn't a draft evaluation. This was NFL evaluation. The fact that niners paid soooo much to go get him and essentially willing to dump him for nothing. Should have set off a bunchnof alarms....SF could have tried and held on and get more but people in NFL circles knew and this they dumped him for nothing....some teams were offering 5th or 6th roundnpicks.

And 4th rounders become contributors....like Ferguson, Schultz, etc. Just look at Cowboys 4th round picks.

It was a mistake and further more it was done without a plan in mind.

 

[OmerV]

A player that prior to NFL was considered top talent. Lots of players get evaluated each year and half fail in NFL.

Lance was in NFL for two years, got to play some games and practice a lot and get coached by NFL coaches. So this wasn't a draft evaluation. This was NFL evaluation. The fact that niners paid soooo much to go get him and essentially willing to dump him for nothing. Should have set off a bunchnof alarms....SF could have tried and held on and get more but people in NFL circles knew and this they dumped him for nothing....some teams were offering 5th or 6th roundnpicks.

And 4th rounders become contributors....like Ferguson, Schultz, etc. Just look at Cowboys 4th round picks.

It was a mistake and further more it was done without a plan in mind.

Sure players fail, which is why Lance was a developmental guy for the Cowboys and not certain to get notable playing time.

As for your comments about Lance, that is really irrelevant to the question of whether the Cowboys intended to play him, which was the topic I was in the middle of. Whether they should have traded for him at all is a separate issue.

Nevertheless, Lance was actually named the starter in SF going into 2022, but had a season ending injury in the 2nd game. After Purdy played well he didn't have a starting job to return to. Additionally, he only had 1 year of college experience because of Covid, so he was still very inexperienced. But nobody ever doubted his physical skills. Again, that didn't mean he was certain to play, but it's understandable why it was intriguing to bring him in and give him a chance.

As for 4th rounders becoming contributors, sure some do, including the names you mentioned. But it's pretty bogus to cherry pick those that worked out and ignore guys like Fehoko, Reggie Robinson, Jabril Cox, Josh Ball ... 4th rounders are not sure things to get any real playing time.

 

[JoeKing]

lol, you say it's too many words to respond to you and indicate it shows you live rent free in my head. Then you use just as many words as I did in response to me.

You just shot yourself in the foot ... lol

I accept that response as a concession to every point I made. I was attempting to respect your too many words with an appropriate respectful response, but you have proven respect won't be reciprocated by you. So, forget communicating with me because I am ignoring you.

 

[OmerV]

I accept that response as a concession to every point I made. I was attempting to respect your too many words with an appropriate respectful response, but you have proven respect won't be reciprocated by you. So, forget communicating with me because I am ignoring you.

You have an active imagination. A nonsensical one, but active.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...-to-hit-free-agency-after-5-starts-in-4-years

Former No. 3 overall pick Trey Lance to hit free agency after 5 starts in 4 years​

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• Michael David Smith

Published February 25, 2025 04:40 AM

Crickets

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Sure players fail, which is why Lance was a developmental guy for the Cowboys and not certain to get notable playing time.

As for your comments about Lance, that is really irrelevant to the question of whether the Cowboys intended to play him, which was the topic I was in the middle of. Whether they should have traded for him at all is a separate issue.

Nevertheless, Lance was actually named the starter in SF going into 2022, but had a season ending injury in the 2nd game. After Purdy played well he didn't have a starting job to return to. Additionally, he only had 1 year of college experience because of Covid, so he was still very inexperienced. But nobody ever doubted his physical skills. Again, that didn't mean he was certain to play, but it's understandable why it was intriguing to bring him in and give him a chance.

As for 4th rounders becoming contributors, sure some do, including the names you mentioned. But it's pretty bogus to cherry pick those that worked out and ignore guys like Fehoko, Reggie Robinson, Jabril Cox, Josh Ball ... 4th rounders are not sure things to get any real playing time.

Yes he was developmental. Bit IMHO you don't spend a 4th round on a developmental player.

And before he lost his job to Purdy he wasn't looking good at all. He was a top 5 project.

And he wasn't worth us paying a 4th

Now Cowboys done it again with Mingo because they had a 2nd round grade on him for the draft. Except there is a years of film on him in NFL and he needs to be regarded and based on his performance not worth a 4th round pick.

Both moves were stupid by Jerry.

 

[DuncanIso]

Yes he was developmental. Bit IMHO you don't spend a 4th round on a developmental player.

And before he lost his job to Purdy he wasn't looking good at all. He was a top 5 project.

And he wasn't worth us paying a 4th

Now Cowboys done it again with Mingo because they had a 2nd round grade on him for the draft. Except there is a years of film on him in NFL and he needs to be regarded and based on his performance not worth a 4th round pick.

Both moves were stupid by Jerry.

He broke his leg.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

You suggested they never intended to let him play, so as I asked before, if you didn't just expect them to let him play then why do you say that? What support do you have for that belief?

As for already having Dak, of course the plan was not to have him come right in and take over for Dak. That's not the point of developmental players, which is what he was signed as.

You say even with a developmental guy there should be an intent to play him, but again, doesn't he have to earn the right to play?

I thought I responded to this but I guess not. No...it was not me that "suggested they never intended to let him play". It was actually YOU.

They had to pay him anyway, so why would they cut him and pay both him and another player to fill the 3rd QB role? Plus, I'm sure the plan when they signed him was for him to never play, but it's up to the player to earn that shot.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

First, way too many words in response to little ole me. But it's nice to be rent free in your head.

Second, I'm retired so my "job" is whatever I do that day. I confess I evaluate everything the team does and my evaluation of Lance from day one was spot on... an irrelevant noncontributor. The front office could have saved a great deal of time, energy, and money by consulting with me first before going through with that trade. Your opposition to my evaluation speaks for its own irrelevance. My rent-free existence in your head continues.

Dak's 60-million-dollar contract says he's our QB1 absent injury. Cooper Rush was always a better option as our QB2 over Lance. These two statements have you confused. Let me remind you that Dak, when drafted was our QB3 that ascended to the QB1 position through unforeseen events. I have not forgotten this. So yes, a miracle could have propelled Lance to the QB1 position, but it would not have been pretty. He was never "ready" for that role despite the time, energy and money invested in him. So, I will double down... Absent a miracle, Lance never had a path to advance. His biggest obstacle is his own lack of talent. So, when you mention a team's constant look for talent, that's not Lance. Keep looking.

I think poor omer might be on a binge lately. He spent two days or more accusing me of something HE said. Odd.

 

[OmerV]

Yes he was developmental. Bit IMHO you don't spend a 4th round on a developmental player.

And before he lost his job to Purdy he wasn't looking good at all. He was a top 5 project.

And he wasn't worth us paying a 4th

Now Cowboys done it again with Mingo because they had a 2nd round grade on him for the draft. Except there is a years of film on him in NFL and he needs to be regarded and based on his performance not worth a 4th round pick.

Both moves were stupid by Jerry.

I would agree in most cases, but typically you don't get someone with this kind of physical talent that everyone viewed as first round talent as a developmental guy. This isn't a guy changing positions or changing sports or that was an afterthought throughout the NFL.

Regardless, this still is a deviation from the question of the Cowboys intent.

 

[OmerV]

I thought I responded to this but I guess not. No...it was not me that "suggested they never intended to let him play". It was actually YOU.

That was a typo on my part. If you look at the context of everything I've posted it is clear that I meant it wasn't the Cowboys intent for him to never play.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

That was a typo on my part. If you look at the context of everything I've posted it is clear that I meant it wasn't the Cowboys intent for him to never play.

Okay....I am very relieved, actually. I honestly couldn't figure out what in the heck was happening!

It didn't make sense and I should have caught on...sorry.