PFT: Jerry Jones defends his low-hanging video board, again

[juck]

I smell TROLL!

 

[BrassCowboy]

Please point out another time when a stadium was constructed to block punts.

yeah, thats what Jerry did

 

[Sammy Baugh]

see my previous reply.
follow me as I "try" to give an anology of what I am trying to say:

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Lets say "Sam" comes to me, mayor, with this grand idea of building this great big house next to a river.
This house will be something better and bigger than anything anyone in the entire city has ever seen. Something everyone in the whole city will drool over for decades to come. Something that will make this city that much better.
After looking over the plans and all it details, I find it to be good to go as it clears all city ordinances, so I sign the ok for permit.
Sam builds it all decked out with the finest of everything.
I already know previously that the best fishing spot is on the opposite side of this river. River being just a large stream width wise.
Most if not all fishermen fishing at this spot cast their poles across this river trying to aim for where the crest of the water gets deeper on other end so that when they reel it in, they have more distance and time to get a nice fish.
Rare occasions, you have these few fishermen who has this wild idea, and/or are aware of overcasting would hit this house and which would break the line and cause that fisherman to reline his pole.
Pain in the *** but not impossible. Besides, it would have to be done on purpose and/or just stupid to cast so far seeing you are aware its there.
Well, I decide well I do not like that, I am tired of all the jealous whining about the house. So I change the ordinance to say houses must be atleast 110 feet from any river embankment.
Does that make Sam want to move that house any faster? Is it not in the real world a grandfathered law that allows Sam to keep his home where it is? Moving his house is not as easy as lifting it up with his bare hands and moving it. Hell Sam likes where his house is anyways because of the great view. That one fishermen can cast like most others would anyways.
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The NFL would not be asking Jerry to change his shirt here. It is a structure that the NFL approved in every way. They can make rules for any future structure height placement, but this is more than just asking dear old grandma wash her hair next time she decides to serve you cherry pie.

The NFL should be treading water lightly here if they want it moved because IMO Jerry is holding all the cards. The question is which game does he want to play.

Your analogy fails for several reasons.

First, the Commish is football God. He holds all the cards. The NFl is not a democracy.
Second, big screens that block punts but could be moved are not the same as a house.
Third, municipal politics are not the same as NFL governance processes.
Fourth, we are not talking about "rare occasions." Cowboys Stadium has a 100% game track record of causing problems.

Look, I think that the league bears some responsibility for the fiasco and should pick up at least some of the tab for moving the screens.

But, one way or another, the screens need to move. Do-overs for the sake of not moving video screens are as embarrassing as they are stupid. Stadiums should NEVER block punts.

 

[theogt]

Your analogy fails for several reasons.

First, the Commish is football God. He holds all the cards. The NFl is not a democracy.
Second, big screens that block punts but could be moved are not the same as a house.
Third, municipal politics are not the same as NFL governance processes.
Fourth, we are not talking about "rare occasions." Cowboys Stadium has a 100% game track record of causing problems.

Look, I think that the league bears some responsibility for the fiasco and should pick up at least some of the tab for moving the screens.

But, one way or another, the screens need to move. Do-overs for the sake of not moving video screens are as embarrassing as they are stupid. Stadiums should NEVER block punts.

Goodell is just an employee of the league. The league is comprised of the NFL teams.

That is all.

 

[true blue]

Please point out another time when a stadium was constructed to block punts.

You're jealous as hell and it's eating you up inside :laugh2:

I love it!

 

[BrassCowboy]

Your analogy fails for several reasons.

First, the Commish is football God. He holds all the cards. The NFl is not a democracy.
Second, big screens that block punts but could be moved are not the same as a house.
Third, municipal politics are not the same as NFL governance processes.
Fourth, we are not talking about "rare occasions." Cowboys Stadium has a 100% game track record of causing problems.

Look, I think that the league bears some responsibility for the fiasco and should pick up at least some of the tab for moving the screens.

But, one way or another, the screens need to move. Do-overs for the sake of not moving video screens are as embarrassing as they are stupid. Stadiums should NEVER block punts.

100% track record of causing problems after one preseason game??? that is a bit of a stretch as I have heard no one who went there complain about even one thing, actually the opposite. I understand you are a Commander fan, so I guess I should expect that from you.

look I respect a thought out answer and one that is respectable, so I give you the fact that the NFL is not a governmental being. I will also agree that it can be moved, and probably will, but it anything but free.

This fiasco might be better avoided, and still could, if the NFL would just come out and be straight up with the details and truth. How it was a mistake by the NFL, something the NFL did not foresee, and something the NFL will assist financially and organizationally with Jerry to solve this problem.

I do believe Jerry's position in the NFL makes him more than a puppet for the NFL, and that the NFL will have to deal with him responsibly and respectfully if they want to come out smelling clean.

 

[rexrobinson]

There were 14 punts in that game and only one hit the bottom of the screen.

Most people who witnessed that punt say that it went nearly straight up as if the punter was trying to hit it and is not representative of a normal NFL quality kick.

BTW, Goodell is hired by the owners. If he asserts his authority in a manner disregardful of the people who put him in power, he will find himself updating his resume sooner than he planned.

And to the snarky "How many titles can one man have" remark, all he needs is one, and that is Mr. Billionaire to you.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I don't even understand why he has that stupid thing he should be forced to take it down.

 

[Sammy Baugh]

You're jealous as hell and it's eating you up inside :laugh2:

I love it!

I'm too busy laughing at the ridiculous lack of real planning to be jealous.

 

[theogt]

I'm too busy laughing at the ridiculous lack of real planning to be jealous.

Since you probably haven't read all of the news on the topic you probably don't realize that there was a good bit of research that went into whether or not the height was workable. They're willing to take the chance that it won't be a problem, even if it is possible for a punter to hit it.

It's not as if they walked out on the field Friday night and thought, "Oh my god, who knew they could hit it with a punt?"

Of course, I'm sure with your homer glasses on, you'll ignore this.

 

[true blue]

I'm too busy laughing at the ridiculous lack of real planning to be jealous.

No, you're too busy stalking and obsessing in every video board thread. But, keep telling yourself it's laughter... the faster you get past your denial the faster the pain in your belly will go away.

 

[rexrobinson]

I'm too busy laughing at the ridiculous lack of real planning to be jealous.

Seriously? 1.2 billion dollars, a large portion of it tax payer money, and you think between the NFL, the government, the architect firm and all the engineers that little research was done?

People don't get to spend 1.2 billion dollars without tons of audits, inspections and research.

This is simply a case of the rest of the NFL wishing they had what the Cowboys have and once a flaw (be it real or not) surfaces the common denominators want to rub it in.

 

[Sammy Baugh]

Since you probably haven't read all of the news on the topic you probably don't realize that there was a good bit of research that went into whether or not the height was workable. They're willing to take the chance that it won't be a problem, even if it is possible for a punter to hit it.

It's not as if they walked out on the field Friday night and thought, "Oh my god, who knew they could hit it with a punt?"

Of course, I'm sure with your homer glasses on, you'll ignore this.

Actually the Colts faced the same problem with their new stadium. They found a solution. Obviously no one on the Cowboys consulted them.

Plus, what was the backup plan in case the screens were too low? For $40 mil. screens there was no backup plan?

 

[viman96]

The worse thing about this scoreboard business is that we are no longer drama free. I can't help but feel JJ should move it for two reasons.

- Prevent potential injuries from occurring from the 2nd punt.
- To dismiss all the drama.

 

[theogt]

Actually the Colts faced the same problem with their new stadium. They found a solution. Obviously no one on the Cowboys consulted them.

Plus, what was the backup plan in case the screens were too low? For $40 mil. screens there was no backup plan?

I don't think you're really getting it. The Cowboys don't think it's too low. They knew the possibility of it being hit existed. They don't care, because they believe it's not going to be a problem unless (1) someone screws up a kick or (2) someone intentionally hits it.

I really hope this was simple enough for you to understand. I'm not sure I can be any more straightforward in my explanation.

And yes, there is a "backup plan" because they had already planned before that game to install a device that raises the scoreboard up and down.

 

[PBJTime]

Your analogy fails for several reasons.

First, the Commish is football God. He holds all the cards. The NFl is not a democracy.
Second, big screens that block punts but could be moved are not the same as a house.
Third, municipal politics are not the same as NFL governance processes.
Fourth, we are not talking about "rare occasions." Cowboys Stadium has a 100% game track record of causing problems.

Look, I think that the league bears some responsibility for the fiasco and should pick up at least some of the tab for moving the screens.

But, one way or another, the screens need to move. Do-overs for the sake of not moving video screens are as embarrassing as they are stupid. Stadiums should NEVER block punts.

Ok, some of your posts are ok, but this has to be one of the stupidest ones I've read. You're going to seriously suggest that the 100% game track record means a flip? Do you always base your opinions on such small sample sizes?

Let's see what the track record is in real games that matter.

You are so jealous you can't see straight. It must be hard. I'll admit, if you guys had something like this, I would try to find any flaw I could too.

 

[true blue]

I don't think you're really getting it. The Cowboys don't think it's too low. They knew the possibility of it being hit existed. They don't care, because they believe it's not going to be a problem unless (1) someone screws up a kick or (2) someone intentionally hits it.

I really hope this was simple enough for you to understand. I'm not sure I can be any more straightforward in my explanation.

And yes, there is a "backup plan" because they had already planned before that game to install a device that raises the scoreboard up and down.

Oh he gets it. This is simply as case of "Well, who wants a shiny new sports car anyway? They get bad gas milage." jealousy.

Then again he could be as stupid as a stump of wood but every time I read his posts they are dripping with envy.

 

[BrassCowboy]

Oh he gets it. This is simply as case of "Well, who wants a shiny new sports car anyway? They get bad gas milage." jealousy.

Then again he could be as stupid as a stump of wood but every time I read his posts they are dripping with envy.

yes, i thought I was the only one thinking that when i read his posts.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

You're jealous as hell and it's eating you up inside :laugh2:

I love it!

:laugh1:

 

[Primetime42]

Your analogy fails for several reasons.

First, the Commish is football God. He holds all the cards. The NFl is not a democracy.
Second, big screens that block punts but could be moved are not the same as a house.
Third, municipal politics are not the same as NFL governance processes.
Fourth, we are not talking about "rare occasions." Cowboys Stadium has a 100% game track record of causing problems.

Look, I think that the league bears some responsibility for the fiasco and should pick up at least some of the tab for moving the screens.

But, one way or another, the screens need to move. Do-overs for the sake of not moving video screens are as embarrassing as they are stupid. Stadiums should NEVER block punts.

The commissioner is not God in the NFL. He has say in a lot of things, but at the end of the day, he answers to the owners.

If they don't want him there, they can get rid of him easily.