PFT: Roethlisberger denies civil allegations of sexual assault

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Double Trouble;2849060 said:
Not true at all.

Women - just like men - are capable of just about anything. There are women who have sold their kids. Some who've killed their kids. Some who sell their bodies.

O the women who fabricated the Duke (was it the lacrosse team?) rape possibly because someone used a racial slur, or because she got the bright idea she could make a $$ off it. Or the prosecutor who threw his career away by trying to use a flimsy case to advance his own career at the expense of some innocent young men, even while having information that the story was clearly untrue.

In this case, it sounds to me like the woman's a wackadoo, and Roethlisberger has never shown any inclination towards criminal behavior, to my knowledge. I'm guessing she made it up in the hopes of scoring $$$. That she didn't file a criminal complaint and waited a year to take civil action makes that suspicion stronger.

I don't think you read my entire post, because what you're saying is exactly what I posted. :cool:
 

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tyke1doe;2849071 said:
That's not true in all cases. You don't know the circumstances of the situation.
Some women believe the perpetrator will never get caught, that it will be their word against his. They don't want to relive the fear and shame of the rape. So they may settle for a payment psychologically hoping that the issue will go away, and they will be done with their assailant.

Payment doesn't necessarily mean a victim is lying. It may mean they know that they're not going to get true justice, and this is another way to get compensated for their loss and to make the situation go away.

If you can find some statistics or psychiatric research that shows that this is more likely than not the case, that's great. Until then, this is a pretty sick thing to say - you basically second guess every rape victim, is what I'm reading between the lines. My perception.
 

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Source: ESPN issues "do not report" alert on Roethlisberger story

Posted by Mike Florio on July 21, 2009 1:19 PM ET

We probably should be glad that ESPN has opted not to acknowledge the sexual assault civil lawsuit filed against Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger. Since their audience won't get any information about the story from ESPN, maybe a nice chunk of their audience will come here for it.

And maybe they won't go back.

Though we still don't know precisely why ESPN hasn't acknowledged the existence of the lawsuit, we know a lot more about the "how".

A media source tells us that, late last night, ESPN issued a "do not report" memo to all of its outlets and reporters. The directive came without explanation. "Even some of the reporters are wondering why," the source said, "but haven't been told."

The same strategy was employed last year, in response to Jay Glazer's report regarding Brett Favre's alleged efforts to help the Lions beat the Packers.

As we reported at the time, the memo said the following: "WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY RELIABLE SOURCES THIS REPORT IS NOT TRUE. We did NOT report it yesterday. Today, the NFL responded to the report, saying even if Favre did this he did not break any league rules. We are NOT reporting it today, because that would mean airing the erroneous report. DO NOT REPORT IT."

This time around, ESPN can't claim that the report of a civil suit alleging sexual assault isn't true. Clearly, it is; Roethlisberger has hired attorney David Cornwell, who has denied the allegations in a statement initially sent to us, and then sent to other media outlets. And we've seen, and reported on, the contents of the complaint.

So in the absence of a legitimate reason from ESPN, we assume that there's some other agenda at play here.

If nothing else, it gives Don Ohlmeyer plenty of fodder for his initial ombudsman column.
 

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Really unprofessional on ESPN's part if this is true, and proves that they are just as bad as every other blog or vlog or anything else on the web.

Kind of goes to prove (to myself) my theory that the news media has become less about reporting and more like a blog. While news outlets competed for stories that would sell papers years ago, they didn't do it at the expense of an agenda....agenda-reporters were ran out of the profession.
 

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tecolote;2849176 said:
You may be right, this is her according to tmz,

andrea_mcnulty_01_0001_Layer_6_full.jpg

That looks like his .... SISTER. :eek:
 

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If it is true (and I find that unlikely) I hope his life is ruined.

If she is making this up (I find that likely) I hope he ruins her life.
 

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casmith07;2849208 said:
If you can find some statistics or psychiatric research that shows that this is more likely than not the case, that's great. Until then, this is a pretty sick thing to say - you basically second guess every rape victim, is what I'm reading between the lines. My perception.

You're reading incorrectly.

I'm just saying that the response to rape is unpredictable.

http://www.secasa.com.au/index.php/workers/25/30 said:
Sexual assault is an arbitrary event in the victim's lifestyle. It is sudden, unexpected and unpredictable. She is faced with a life threatening situation that she is unable to effectively resolve. Her usual methods of coping with threats and conducting interpersonal relationships fail her. It is a violation of her physical self and her basic beliefs and assumptions about her environment, about other people and relationships and about herself.

As a result women may experience severe psychological effects. The way the victim copes with the trauma of rape is dependent on several factors. These include her ego strength her social network support, her life cycle stage and the way she is treated as a victim. On 20th May, 1978, the National Times noted that "The Honolulu Star Bulletin" recently reported that Judge Robert V. Richardson had dismissed a rape charge against a motorist who had allegedly knocked down a woman jogger and raped her. The Judge dismissed the rape action because he believed that the woman who was dazed after the accident "did not put up enough resistance."

This statement illustrates the degree to which women are still held to be responsible for or in some way complicit with the act of rape. Despite many changes that have occurred in the treatment of rape victims, there still exists in our society ignorance about, and ambivalence towards the rape victim, causing for many an additional stress.

To date, there has been little well controlled research on the psychological adjustment of the victim. Most sexual assault clinics have been concerned with providing support and treatment to the victim rather than systematic evaluation. Professionals have been reluctant to subject rape victims to intrusive evaluation procedures. Their treatment needs have been the primary focus of such clinics.

Given the fact that not many alleged rapists are in the position to "buy off" the silence of their victims, I doubt there would be any research to support my argument. But the premise of my argument isn't off, i.e., just because a woman files a civil suit against her alleged attacker doesn't mean she hasn't been raped. It may be her way of punishing her attacker or making the issue go away that won't involve a lengthy trial. It may be easier to settle a civil case than a criminal case.
 

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mmurray21;2848903 said:
On the Kobe case, lets not forget the rape kit came back with the seamen of the guy supporting her story and not Kobe's


:laugh2: .............sorry.............:lmao2:
 

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Too little, too late from ESPN on Roethlisberger
Posted by Mike Florio on July 21, 2009 4:23 PM ET

ESPN spokesman Mac Nwulu has provided us with a statement from the folks in Bristol regarding their decision not to mention the civil sexual assault suit against Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, which to our knowledge has been ignored by every national ESPN platform.

"At this point, we are not reporting the allegations against Ben Roethlisberger because no criminal complaint has been filed," Nwulu said. "As far as we know, this is a civil lawsuit that Roethlisberger has yet to address publicly."

Actually, Roethlisberger has addressed the lawsuit publicly, via a Monday night statement from lawyer David Cornwell, who has been retained to represent Roethlisberger.

And let's be realistic about it. If he's smart (and, frankly, the jury is still out on that one), Ben won't ever comment on the case publicly, other than to say, "No comment."

Besides, we don't buy for a minute the notion that a civil claim unaccompanied by a criminal complaint makes the situation not newsworthy. Indeed, ESPN posted last night on its NFL page a blurb from the AP regarding the civil suit filed by former NFL kicker Tony Zendejas, in which he claims a violation of his civil rights in connection with, coincidentally, a rape prosecution.

In that case, have the folks who allegedly violated the civil rights of Zendejas been charged criminally? Nope. But that hasn't kept ESPN from posting the AP item.

And that's the kicker on this one -- ESPN uses stuff from the AP all the time, and the AP has issued a story about the lawsuit against Roethlisberger.

So while we appreciate the fact that ESPN provided us with a statement, we choose to regard it as a hollow attempt to explain away what appears to be a strategy for remaining in the good graces of Ben Roethlisberger.


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Roethlisberger cancels press conference

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on July 21, 2009 3:58 PM ET

Ben Roethlisberger's new reality, no matter how the civil suit against him goes, will be changed dramatically for the near future.

Because of that, now is not exactly the best time for Roethlisberger to discuss participating in a frivolous reality show competition.

A previously scheduled press conference scheduled for Thursday including Roethlisberger has been cancelled, according to Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

The presser was set to discuss a reality show called "Shaq vs." starring Shaquille O'Neal. (Shaq takes on elite stars in their own sports.)

There is no word on whether the taping of the show will go off as planned near Pittsburgh or whether Roethlisberger will still be involved.

More details about Roethlisberger's accuser

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on July 21, 2009 2:02 PM ET
Less than 24 hours ago, Andrea McNulty filed a civil sexual assault case against Ben Roethlisberger. It's safe to say curiosity about her is already piqued.

TMZ has released seven pictures which they report to be of McNulty.

Other sites have alleged links to her ******* page, but they are unconfirmed.

We can confirm McNulty is a Canadian immigrant who had a visa to work at Harrah's Casino in Lake Tahoe.

Our source also told us on Monday the exact same story that Mr. Florio passed along from TMZ Tuesday morning.

The source alleges that McNulty was involved a bizarre episode that is unrelated to Roethlisberger. TMZ reports that McNulty received psychiatric care as a result of the incident.

The accusations about McNulty are not exactly surprising.

In fact, they are essentially contained in the civil case that PFT has been able to look at.

McNulty is suing many Harrah's employees for making false and inflammatory statements about her physical and mental health.

McNulty claims in the case that any hospital stay was related to being sexually assaulted.

She also alleges that the defendants/co-workers made inflammatory statements about her "relationship with other men" and accused her of serious sexual misconduct.

She is claiming that she sustained damage to her profession as a direct and indirect result of such statements.

As the story grows, which is inevitable despite ESPN's efforts, we will surely continue to learn plenty more about McNulty.

From both sides of the case.
 

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What I find interesting is

Ben is not the only person in this suit.

7 others are named. They are from what I understand employees of the casino that will not agree with the version of her story.

By adding them to the suit, this is a common move by the lawyer to pressure one if not more of the 7 others named to come forth with the info they have.

ben has lots of money to fight this. Casino employess having to defend yourself in court could bankrupt someone.


somone also sadi if ben is found guilty. Well in a Civil case it is not gulity or innocent. It is what if any judgement for damages you get no guilty or innocent.
 

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This will probably go away quickly. But I just have to add, if it were Tony's name it would be all over the media and ESPN 24/7. :Sigh::

Tonys a single man now. CAUTION Tony.
 

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WoodysGirl;2848602 said:
"The timing of the lawsuit and the absence of a criminal complaint and a criminal investigation are the most compelling evidence of the absence of any criminal conduct," Cornwell said. "If an investigation is commenced, Ben will cooperate fully and Ben will be fully exonerated."
If that's the most compelling evidence, you might want to get your checkbook ready.
 

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Anyone think that if this had happened to Romo, ESPN would have issued a "do not report" alert?

Not likely.
 

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theogt;2849621 said:
Anyone think that if this had happened to Romo, ESPN would have issued a "do not report" alert?

Not likely.
If this had been any Cowboy, it would have been the first story on Sportscenter. Remember how the media reported on Michael Irvin and Eric Williams. They already had them convicted.
 

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Right or wrong,the fact that this has happened to a HOLY STEALER puts a smile on my face,hell,the last few years,they have had quite a few of their guys in trouble...better them then us:star:
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;2849657 said:
There is no way ESPN would have a no report order if it were a Cowboy.

It would be the lead story, the end story and every story in between, not to mention constantly running on that ticker at the bottom of the screen. Who does Roethlisberger have pictures of at ESPN?
 
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