PFT Smith: Wade Phillips upset with officials' mistakes

[GimmeTheBall!]

Chances are you're making quite a few baseless assumptions. You might want to consider that publicly crucifying the people you work with causes trouble more often than not. If he were on TV quacking and pointing fingers at his team he'd look like and would be a grade A ******-bag. Other than gratifying some fans, what purpose would it serve?

Somehow I doubt you'd respond well to your boss publically humiliating you.

He can be more effective by treating them with respect and taking it to them in the locker room. Unfortunately, that won't work with the lousy officiating, so he did the right thing and brought it out.

Differences...

Baseless assumptions? I had to pause on that one. Isn't that redundant?

But, let us review.
Coaches critique and slam their players all the time. By inference or directly.
But everybody knows who it is.
Treating them with respect is great, but this is the NFL and these are hardened men who know their worth is proven by the last game they played.

I admire the cumbaya approach but in corporate America, it is always cuthroat and public disses and thats is.
A scowling Ray Rhodes would show displeasure with the unit or with the individual. He glared at them DURING the game and he didn't even have to name him. Lombardi stares could, it would seem to this august kid of the turf, slice through steel. Landry's cool indifference and his hand to his chin was a thang to beholt.
Anybody want to approach Danny Reeves on the sidelines after flubbing onfield? Jimma? The same.

Wade?

Well, he takes the soft approach. I hope it works.
Differences.

And you say whuut? A boss humilating you in public?

Sorry, Charlie, that does not happen in the mundane, everyday world of corporate america. Or on the docks. Or in the retail centers.
But it is accepted in the NFL. Not humiliation, but accountability and visting the principal's office.
In the NFL, ever coach, ever player is called out. For bar fights, late arrival at camp, attitude or skills or win-losses. One way or the other.
So, thanks for your opinion, but I don't buy treating them with respect.
But, how about treating them with respect and accountability? CEOs and players who make this much money get all the adolation. If they fall flat on their faces, they know they will get the opposite and they have lawyers who can handle humiliation cases. That is the nature of the beast and the way of the world. Differences.

 

[jobberone]

totally agree, what bugs me some of these refs are making 100,000 to 200,000 and they still dont know the rules or dont seem to really care

to me the owners and nfl should get people that really care about the game and want to ; not someone that works part time and gets away with blown calls because the nfl wont fine the refs or suspend them

Do us all a favor and get off the refs ***. They put their pants on same as you and me. I've studied to be a ref and its harder than you think esp to always be right which ain't possible.

Your whining from thread to thread is beyond annoying. Don't make me use my spoon on you.

 

[vta]

Baseless assumptions? I had to pause on that one. Isn't that redundant?...

Ray Rhodes?? Seriously? I'll take Wade and a decent chance at winning over some scowling loser, who might fit into a stereotype.

It's obvious Wade is not a showman or a blowhard and isn't going to give the Coors Light commercial sound-bite for people to feel better about. The proof is in the pudding, this Cowboys team is doing pretty good this season without the theatrics up front.

Now you can give credit for that where ever you like, but you'll never really be objective having only a small window of perspective on the situation and tired analogies to go by. You simply dislike Wade as coach. It's no more profound or complicated than that.

 

[tyke1doe]

How about getting upset during the game next time.

Thank you.

Wade should have been all in the refs ear about the lack of a penalty on the Packer challenge. I thought that at the least was a delay of game penalty. Wade should have been yelling his head off for a penalty.

 

[FloridaRob]

Thank you.

Wade should have been all in the refs ear about the lack of a penalty on the Packer challenge. I thought that at the least was a delay of game penalty. Wade should have been yelling his head off for a penalty.

I don't think Wade knew the penalty. I am certain McCarthy did not know it. Aikman and Joe Buck did not know it. And nobody I know including me did not know a penalty existed until the next day. But, the one person that should have know was the ref, and apparently he did not know it either.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

IF they would hire full time refs instead of this part timer crap that might go a long way in getting better officials. Right now these are weekend guys who during the week are selling insurance, or are lawyers and such.

It's ridiculous that the most popular sports league in the nation can't hire a full time officiating team.

 

[JBond]

Glad Wade is upset with the refs. I wish he we be more upset about things he can control. Like play calling and lack of effort and intensity by some of his players.

 

[Doomsday101]

Glad Wade is upset with the refs. I wish he we be more upset about things he can control. Like play calling and lack of effort an intensity by some of his players.

He was upset that they played bad and talked about this before he even mentioned anything about the refs.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Ray Rhodes?? Seriously? I'll take Wade and a decent chance at winning over some scowling loser, who might fit into a stereotype.

It's obvious Wade is not a showman or a blowhard and isn't going to give the Coors Light commercial sound-bite for people to feel better about. The proof is in the pudding, this Cowboys team is doing pretty good this season without the theatrics up front.

Now you can give credit for that where ever you like, but you'll never really be objective having only a small window of perspective on the situation and tired analogies to go by. You simply dislike Wade as coach. It's no more profound or complicated than that.

A scowling loser? You try putting all the Super Bowl rings Rhodes won as an assistant and the playoff wins clippings into Wade's fat little hands.

You really should do your homework before you make Rhodes into a "loser." As a Wade apologist and loyal acolyte of his, you need to know that one who has never EVER won a playoff game as HC is a loser. Not Rhodes.

But go look up Rhodes' record. Really, Wade and Rhodes names should not be used in the same sentence. There are far better coaches than Rhodes, yes and his name was brought up solely as the type of coach players hate to approach on the sidelines after flubbing a play. But since you brought up "loser" I had to set you straight on who the real loser it is, and it's the one with the constipated, bewildered look on the Dallas Cowboys sidlines.

Holla if you dare.

 

[JBond]

He was upset that they played bad and talked about this before he even mentioned anything about the refs.

I posted the other day that I would be disappointed if any Cowboys whined about the refs. Surprise, surprise. The head of the team is whining. I like Wade and I get your point, but crying about things out of his control is a waste of time. There are so many things he can and should be focused on. The refs should be way down the list. I understand he discussed the poor play of the team, but he could have left out the ref stuff. He did do a pretty good job in the press conference and even threw a little back at the brain dead reporters, so kudos for that.

Whining about things you can not control has always rubbed me the wrong way. That is all.

 

[Doomsday101]

I posted the other day that I would be disappointed if any Cowboys whined about the refs. Surprise, surprise. The head of the team is whining. I like Wade and I get your point, but crying about things out of his control is a waste of time. There are so many things he can and should be focused on. The refs should be way down the list. I understand he discussed the poor play of the team, but he could have left out the ref stuff. He did do a pretty good job in the press conference and even threw a little back at the brain dead reporters, so kudos for that.

Whining about things you can not control has always rubbed me the wrong way. That is all.

He is doing what every coach in the league does. They are addressing the issue with the league office. He has stated their play is why we lost the game but he and the organization have an obligation to go to the league office on these matters as all teams do.

 

[JBond]

He is doing what every coach in the league does. They are addressing the issue with the league office. He has stated their play is why we lost the game but he and the organization have an obligation to go to the league office on these matters as all teams do.

I understand the process. I am also under no illusions it will change a darn thing. He can spend time and energy fighting a pointless battle if he feels it is really that important, but It's not like we are going to get a do over. This particular ref crew has been horrible for years and will continue to be horrible. The league does not care or they would have done something about it a long time ago.

 

[DallasEast]

I understand the process. I am also under no illusions it will change a darn thing. He can spend time and energy fighting a pointless battle if he feels it is really that important, but It's not like we are going to get a do over. This particular ref crew has been horrible for years and will continue to be horrible. The league does not care or they would have done something about it a long time ago.

Are you in favor of all teams not addressing their grievances with the league about officiating?

 

[Doomsday101]

I understand the process. I am also under no illusions it will change a darn thing. He can spend time and energy fighting a pointless battle if he feels it is really that important, but It's not like we are going to get a do over. This particular ref crew has been horrible for years and will continue to be horrible. The league does not care or they would have done something about it a long time ago.

They are going about their normal business of getting ready for this game, no where did he say the refs cost us the game he has stated their lack of executions is what cost us this game not the refs. Wade like any HC in the NFL has and should file complaints with the league office when they run into these situations.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

crying about things out of his control is a waste of time. There are so many things he can and should be focused on. The refs should be way down the list.

Whining about things you can not control has always rubbed me the wrong way. That is all.

And that is the crux of the debate. Wade whining about things out of his control.
I wholeheartedly agree: focus on your team (and your record) and not on the refs.

 

[Doomsday101]

And that is the crux of the debate. Wade whining about things out of his control.
I wholeheartedly agree: focus on your team (and your record) and not on the refs.

Well then 31 other coaches are in the same boat with Wade because they all do it.

 

[JBond]

Are you in favor of all teams not addressing their grievances with the league about officiating?

Address it. Fine. In private with the league. Do you think it matters a hill of beans to the league that their refs suck? The very obvious answer is no, they do not care. If they did, as I said previously, they would actually do something about it. They are content with sucking. They suck for a reason. Because the league wants them to suck.

So if they suck and everyone including the league understands they suck and refuses to do a damn thing to change it, what is the point?

Again it's not like we get to play the game again with refs that do not suck.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Ray Rhodes?? Seriously? I'll take Wade and a decent chance at winning over some scowling loser, who might fit into a stereotype.

Wait... Ray Rhodes?

 

[JBond]

And that is the crux of the debate. Wade whining about things out of his control.
I wholeheartedly agree: focus on your team (and your record) and not on the refs.

Oh crap, you are agreeing with me? Maybe I need to rethink this.

 

[Doomsday101]

Address it. Fine. In private with the league. Do you think it matters a hill of beans to the league that their refs suck? The very obvious answer is no, they do not care. If they did, as I said previously, they would actually do something about it. They are content with sucking. They suck for a reason. Because the league wants them to suck.

So if they suck and everyone including the league understands they suck and refuses to do a damn thing to change it, what is the point?

Again it's not like we get to play the game again with refs that do not suck.

He is not taking away from work this team needs to do, the media is asking question he is giving answers he is not taking any blame off the teams play not doing anything that is harmful to the team by anserwing these questions that are being asked. Wade is responding as any other HC in the league does. If anything your making a bigger deal out of it than need be.