PFT: Thoughts on changes to NFL personal conduct policy

Doomsday101

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superpunk;1395601 said:
lmao...yeah, you read what I wrote - and MY view is naive.

ok, Pollyanna. ;) The NFL should just write off their multi-million dollar investments. It's a write-off for them. How is it a write-off? They just write it off. Write it off what? All these big companies, they write off everything. You don't even know what a write off is. Do you? No, I don't. But they do, and they're the ones, writing it off.

They are players and believe it or not players come and go all the time. If you want to think that the league will collapse because some drugged up ball player who was given 3 chances and still can't managed to get their act together will cause the league to collapse then your sillier than I thought. The league very well could institute a 3 strike rule and survive just fine.
 

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Doomsday101;1395604 said:
If you want to think that the league will collapse because some drugged up ball player who was given 3 chances and still can't managed to get their act together will cause the league to collapse then your sillier than I thought.

I used hard to replace in my first post and then followed it up with irreplaceable in quotes subsequently because that is easier.

There must be some "strawman high" that makes logical fallacies irresistible. The NFL should look at dealing with that.
 

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As was pointed out, playing in the NFL is a PRIVLIDGE not a right. The NFL can redo their code of conduct and kick anyone who violates it right out. Players come and go- its no big deal. The fans and tv ratings will continue.
The NFL can make itself look really good if they step up. The Union will not resist this since it would make them look worse then they already do- if that is possible.
 

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the players association is pussing for harsh punishment from these foolish players.....the players are tired and embarrassed by all the off field nonsense. I know the Bengals players who dont get into trouble are probably at wits end by now. I am proud of guys like Carson Palmer, Jason Witten, etc..for going to the league and demanding that something be done.

the NFL is supposed to be the top class sports league.........there are lots of hungry players out there willing to play in the league....players who will bust *** and not act a fool........get rid of the garbage like half the bengals roster or pac man jones and bring in these hungry players....

BTW....whoever said they are just football players, that these new sanctions are stupid.....well YOU ARE STUPID....they are football players, yes....but that is their job. They are getting paid millions to do their job. They are in the public eye....they are role models for kids. They are the face of their corporation, their franchise....They are the face of the products they market. They have a duty to conduct themselves with dignity, class, respect, integrity, and lawfulness. If they cannot act accordingly...their employer "THE NFL" has every right to remove them indefinitely......
 

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This is all crap made up by Florio why anyone is taking it as anything other than that is beyond me.
 

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theogt;1395545 said:
Most? Link? What if I were to say most companies don't even test for drugs?

Every place I've ever worked does and yes they fire a person for a positive drug test. If a individual is on drugs and they turn themselves in they can get counseling from the Co. and thus mercy, until the next layoff.
 

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SuperCows5Xs;1396868 said:
Every place I've ever worked does and yes they fire a person for a positive drug test. If a individual is on drugs and they turn themselves in they can get counseling from the Co. and thus mercy, until the next layoff.
Actually, in 2000, only 49% of all full-time employees in the United States were subject to drug testing. A recent article in the Wall Street Journal indicated that the practice has declined significantly in recent years.
 

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theogt;1395552 said:
That may be because they don't find their employees as valuable as NFL teams find theirs.


There is probably some truth to this as far as the team goes, but in society (courts, law enforcement) players get away with their garbage behavior because they have the money to fight all charges brought against them or to settle out of court in a civil type case.
 

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theogt;1396869 said:
Actually, in 2000, only 49% of all full-time employees in the United States were subject to drug testing. A recent article in the Wall Street Journal indicated that the practice has declined significantly in recent years.

And no company would do if it wasnt for the fact that most insurance companies have requirements on Commercial General Liability Policies as well as Commercial Auto Policies demanding them to be taken.

The test are expensive to begin with and most people/companies dont try and delve into the private lives of their employees.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1396871 said:
And no company would do if it wasnt for the fact that most insurance companies have requirements on Commercial General Liability Policies as well as Commercial Auto Policies demanding them to be taken.

The test are expensive to begin with and most people/companies dont try and delve into the private lives of their employees.
Right. It's mostly manual labor/heavy machinery type workplaces that require it, and that's only because the benefit obviously outweighs the cost.
 

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The NFL is a business which relies on the support of its fan base. Anything which imperils that loyalty and brings discredit on the NFL eventually will be strongly addressed. I wonder how many of you would like to be a Bengal fan after last year. All you gotta do is check out their newspapers which were running constant tabs on number of Bengals who had been arrested and bets on how high the total would be & their fans weren't laughing.

No company puts up with any employee who turns out to be an embarrassment. Eventually it doesn't matter how well they do their job cause their off field activities distract from them from doing their job. Coaches/GMs (just like company personnel offices) get tired of damping down the fires and being forced deal with these problems when they should be resolving other issues.

Pacman & others like him may find the good life will end much sooner then they anticipated & their friends will drop off as the money disappears.
 

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Florio's incontinence of the mouth is unparalleled.

Anyone who sees any merit in such a policy should really just bury their head in the sand.
 

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sacase;1395491 said:
What a joke if the league took any of this as so called policy they would catch so many law suits it wouldn't even be funny. These guys are FOOTBALL players not people protecting national security. I just love how peple want to force such high morals and standards on people who are just FOOTBALL players.

Yeah, how completely outrageous, to expect them to obey the law just like everybody else...
 

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silverbear;1396940 said:
Yeah, how completely outrageous, to expect them to obey the law just like everybody else...
The NFL has policies in place to deal with players that are convicted of crimes. Did you even read what Florio is proposing?
 
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