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Loved the original. Seems like I would watch it with my Dad at least once a month when I was young. But, I am always open to different interpretations of movies, so I will check it out.
 

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Just how many remakes of classics are ever worth a bucket of warm camel piss?

True Grit is one of the few movies that was actually better than the book. And yes I have read the book.

Just looked at that picture and I want to throw up. The Duke in that movie was just so great. The movie itself was fine- but it was the performance of John Wayne that made it.

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I would rather they find lesser known westerns and make them modern with their own twist (by they I mean whoever happens to be the writers/directors/actors).

You get a lesser known movie and it can do well like QT did with his last movie.

There are a huge amount of old western movies out there that can be used to update. Take the general premise of the original and redo it and make tweaks if need be.

I don't understand why you would take one of the better known movies with one of the best known Cowboy actors ever and try to re do it. I mean it is a movie that is played around once a month (if not more) or so on Cable so most have seen it and know it plus you just don't screw with the Duke he is just that iconic.

Just like you would be silly (imo) to go and remake the Eastwood Spaghetti westerns.

Some things you just don't mess with as they were perfect the first time.

Now that does not mean this one will not be a good movie to watch but I think even while watching it (whenever it comes to HBO or the like) I will spend too much time being distracted by making comparisons to the old movie and the iconic Duke playing an Iconic Role.

That and like the others have pointed out... the dude or derby hat in that one pic just irks me.:laugh2:
 

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Hostile;3479045 said:
You're killing me Trick. Hepburn is in the sequel, "Rooster Cogburn," not "True Grit." Agree on Anthony Zerbe but he is also in Cogburn.

Sorry Hos... didn't see it was True Grit... which is better than Rooster Cogburn...

True Grit is Wayne's second best movie after The Cowboys...
 

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trickblue;3479426 said:
Sorry Hos... didn't see it was True Grit... which is better than Rooster Cogburn...

True Grit is Wayne's second best movie after The Cowboys...



The correct order is:


The Shootist

The Searchers

She Wore a Yellow Ribbon

The Quiet Man

Then True Grit;)
 

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Ozzu;3479057 said:
I'm actually looking forward to this. I love the Coen brothers and Jeff Bridges is greatness.

The Coen Brothers, Fargo is one of my all time favorites. Good for them.
 

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StanleySpadowski;3479566 said:
The correct order is:


The Shootist

The Searchers

She Wore a Yellow Ribbon

The Quiet Man

Then True Grit;)

AMC recently did a fan poll and Rio Bravo won as Wayne's best Western, and Rio Bravo also was touted as possibly the best Western ever made by a couple of magazines during the past year (it was the 50th anniversary of the film).

Having said that, I'm still trying to see what all the Rio Bravo hoop-la is about. It's good, but ....

My favorites are McLintock!, Big Jake, Chisum, The Cowboys, and True Grit. Rooster Cogburn is also very good, and I like The Shootist. Also, Cahill has its moments.
 

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Hos is in the 'No Perspective' camp on this one. ;) However, his loyalty is inspiring! And I had no idea he was such a connisewer of hats.

I generally don't care for remakes, as they often don't measure up to the original. However I do like the Coen's and Bridges, so that's a plus for me.

Also, True Grit isn't in my top tier of John Wayne movies either, so I cannot feel the sting that afflicts some here. My list would probably go:
Big Jake, El Dorado, Quiet Man, The Cowboys, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon. Though the order changes sometimes depending on which ones I've watched recently.
 

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I love the idea of John Wayne and all for which he stood, but I've seen a grand total of one of his movies in its entirety: The Alamo.

Westerns never appealed to me, though I came from a Western-crazed family.
 

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Chief;3479609 said:
AMC recently did a fan poll and Rio Bravo won as Wayne's best Western, and Rio Bravo also was touted as possibly the best Western ever made by a couple of magazines during the past year (it was the 50th anniversary of the film).

Having said that, I'm still trying to see what all the Rio Bravo hoop-la is about. It's good, but ....

My favorites are McLintock!, Big Jake, Chisum, The Cowboys, and True Grit. Rooster Cogburn is also very good, and I like The Shootist. Also, Cahill has its moments.


Of Hawkes' trilogy, I prefer El Dorado over Rio Bravo or Rio Lobo.

McLintock! was on recently. It's amazing that they couldn't make that movie today. Rape a woman and it's cinematic mastery, paddle one with a fireplace shovel and it's spousal abuse.

I really like his older westerns like Fort Apache and his war ones like Sands of Iwo Jima.
 

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StanleySpadowski;3479688 said:
Of Hawkes' trilogy, I prefer El Dorado over Rio Bravo or Rio Lobo.

McLintock! was on recently. It's amazing that they couldn't make that movie today. Rape a woman and it's cinematic mastery, paddle one with a fireplace shovel and it's spousal abuse.

I really like his older westerns like Fort Apache and his war ones like Sands of Iwo Jima.

I do too Stan. My favorite Western would probably be The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance but there are so many, it's hard to pick just the one.
 

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As far as Westerns are concerned, if John Wayne was in it, it was good,,, several were great. John Wayne played John Wayne in every picture,, what drew you to it was to hear what he said.

Bridges will probably do a fine job, although it will be very hard not to compare him to Wayne.... Kind of like Romo in the Aikman/Staubach role,,, he is very good,,, but not quite there, yet.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;3479698 said:
My favorite Western would probably be The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance

THANK you!!! Finally, somebody who knows what a "good" John Wayne movie is supposed to be

Y'all can keep all the McLintocs, Rio Lobos, The Shootists, none of 'em interest me that much.

Give me these 5, and really in no particular order, and I'll be just fine:
  • True Grit
  • The Searchers
  • The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
  • The Cowboys
  • Stagecoach
And I give an honorable mention to "Reap The Wild Wind" as a favorite non-western.
 

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DallasCowpoke;3479785 said:
THANK you!!! Finally, somebody who knows what a "good" John Wayne movie is supposed to be

Y'all can keep all the McLintocs, Rio Lobos, The Shootists, none of 'em interest me that much.

Give me these 5, and really in no particular order, and I'll be just fine:
  • True Grit
  • The Searchers
  • The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
  • The Cowboys
  • Stagecoach
And I give an honorable mention to "Reap The Wild Wind" as a favorite non-western.

One of my favorite non-Westerns of his is Hatari.

You mentioned True Grit first ... back to the original topic, did anyone else think Glen Campbell's "performance" pulled down that film a bit? It was part of a Batjac trend at that time to put musical stars (Bobby Vinton in Big Jake), or sports stars (Roman Gabriel and Merlin Olsen in The Undefeated) in the films to help widen the audience. Campbell really seemed to struggle in the role as the Texas Ranger.

Matt Damon has that part in the new film so I'm looking forward to seeing that.
 

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Chief;3479816 said:
You mentioned True Grit first ... back to the original topic, did anyone else think Glen Campbell's "performance" pulled down that film a bit? It was part of a Batjac trend at that time to put musical stars (Bobby Vinton in Big Jake), or sports stars (Roman Gabriel and Merlin Olsen in The Undefeated) in the films to help widen the audience. Campbell really seemed to struggle in the role as the Texas Ranger.

I hear/read a lot of folks say that about Campbell Chief, but it never bothered me.

I suppose there are better actors who could of done a better job, but it's like comparing something to nothing IMO, since it's not like there's another actor's performance in that same role to judge it against.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;3479698 said:
I do too Stan. My favorite Western would probably be The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance but there are so many, it's hard to pick just the one.

:hammer:

Other Honorable Mentions:
Red River
Sands of Iwo Jima
The War Wagon
The Sons of Katie Elder
The Horse Soldiers
Angel and the Badman
They Were Expendable



The Quiet Man is one of my all time fav's..
 

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BrAinPaiNt;3479406 said:
I would rather they find lesser known westerns and make them modern with their own twist (by they I mean whoever happens to be the writers/directors/actors).

You get a lesser known movie and it can do well like QT did with his last movie.

There are a huge amount of old western movies out there that can be used to update. Take the general premise of the original and redo it and make tweaks if need be.

I don't understand why you would take one of the better known movies with one of the best known Cowboy actors ever and try to re do it. I mean it is a movie that is played around once a month (if not more) or so on Cable so most have seen it and know it plus you just don't screw with the Duke he is just that iconic.

Just like you would be silly (imo) to go and remake the Eastwood Spaghetti westerns.

Some things you just don't mess with as they were perfect the first time.

Now that does not mean this one will not be a good movie to watch but I think even while watching it (whenever it comes to HBO or the like) I will spend too much time being distracted by making comparisons to the old movie and the iconic Duke playing an Iconic Role.

That and like the others have pointed out... the dude or derby hat in that one pic just irks me.:laugh2:

Bruce Willis did a remake of an Eastwood Spaghetti Western it was a flop. Last Man Standing was a remake of a Fist Full of Dollars
 

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Chief;3479609 said:
AMC recently did a fan poll and Rio Bravo won as Wayne's best Western, and Rio Bravo also was touted as possibly the best Western ever made by a couple of magazines during the past year (it was the 50th anniversary of the film).

Having said that, I'm still trying to see what all the Rio Bravo hoop-la is about. It's good, but ....

My favorites are McLintock!, Big Jake, Chisum, The Cowboys, and True Grit. Rooster Cogburn is also very good, and I like The Shootist. Also, Cahill has its moments.
Oh man, I love Rio Bravo.

It was the first movie filmed at Old Tucson after a long lull. Old Tucson was rebuilt for that movie and has been used ever since.

If you get the collectors edition you've got to watch the documentary included.
 
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