PittDawg: Offseason strength and Conditioning

[aikemirv]

i really don't know. i really thought the speed of the game would dictate which side, but from what i've seen so far the left d-ends he's faced are just as quick as the right d-ends. we'll know better after this off season. one thing for sure, rob will play where ever to get on the field.

That is true, some of the best ends in the game line up against the RT. Strahan, Kearse, Julius Peppers,Leonard Little and so forth that he faced this year all play his side. I know that the LT protects the QB's blind side but it seems that most of the impact DE play the other side so sometimes I do not understand the emphasis as much on the LT for that reason.

 

[Verdict]

Ease up on Rob. It usually takes at least one season for a first rounder to get acclimated to the NFL. I think Rob did pretty well, all things considered. He will be considered a steal at some point in the future. I think some of you might be discounting him because he was a 6th round pick. Brady was a 6th rounder as well and he turned out pretty well.

I really wonder how Rob would have performed with a healthy Rivera next to him. Lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater just yet. Rivera, Johnson and/or Gurode didn't really set the world on fire this season.

 

[DallasCowpoke111]

rob weights 325 give or take. that's the target for next year also, but i suspect it will be with alot less tummy.

I'm bettin' "tummy" ain't exactly what it's referred to in the weight room, esp when you're 3+ bills!!

 

[aikemirv]

You know what, if FA had not gotten injured, Pettiti would have been helped much more this year as a normal rookie would and a lot of this stuff would have never taken place and we would probably be saying that we did well with that 6th rounder.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

You know what, if FA had not gotten injured, Pettiti would have been helped much more this year as a normal rookie would and a lot of this stuff would have never taken place and we would probably be saying that we did well with that 6th rounder.

Teams do well when sixth rounders stick on the roster for a couple of seasons. Getting a starter out of that pick is gold.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

rob weights 325 give or take. that's the target for next year also, but i suspect it will be with alot less tummy.

That's great news. If he keeps the weight off all off season, I'll be impressed and I think everyone else will be next season.



As I've said before, the draft will show what the Cowboys really think of his chances as a long term starter in the NFL. OT on the first day and they have reservations.

 

[AbeBeta]

Everyone has a right to their opinion. AND they have a right to post it here as long as it follows the posting guidelines.

Just because some posters may not be very tactful doesn't mean they are idiots. Given the fact that the O-line didn't play well down the stretch, I'd say they were justified in many of their comments. So let's tone down the rhetoric regarding "idiot fans" and such...

Though I agree that everyone has a right to their opinion, we also have a situation here where, unlike any other topic, we know that someone's dad is reading the comments. That by no means should mean that we can't be critical -- but I think it does mean that we should make every effort to be tactful and classy in our comments -- otherwise we just drag this group down to the level of extremeskins.

 

[gbrittain]

Though I agree that everyone has a right to their opinion, we also have a situation here where, unlike any other topic, we know that someone's dad is reading the comments. That by no means should mean that we can't be critical -- but I think it does mean that we should make every effort to be tactful and classy in our comments -- otherwise we just drag this group down to the level of extremeskins.

I agree!

 

[CaptainAmerica]

As for the negative Petiti posts that showed up on this board over the last part of the season, it comes down, imo, to simply showing respect for the father of one of our players who is kind enough to post on the board and give us a little insight from a player's family.

That doesn't mean the player is off-limits, but the comments and titles of the threads were in many cases disgraceful and showed a complete lack of class and respect for Rob's father, who the posters knew was possibly reading the board.

I would venture to say that most of those posters either don't have kids themselves or would take great offense if someone said something similar about one of their kids.

All that being said, I expect to see a veteran FA brought in to compete for the OT position and that will do nothing but improve our team just by increasing the level of competition. I also expect Rob to show marked improvement after a year in the college of "hard knocks" and an off-season in the weight room. I believe Rob can and will have a future with the Cowboys.

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

Heres something for the Pettiti bashers to consider. If Pettiti is as bad as some folks claim than what does that make Ethan Brooks? Hmmmmmmmmm. After all, Pettiti did keep Brooks glued to the bench thru all of it.

 

[Canadian BoyzFan]

One thing I'd like to respond on...

Everyone has a right to their opinion. AND they have a right to post it here as long as it follows the posting guidelines.

Just because some posters may not be very tactful doesn't mean they are idiots. Given the fact that the O-line didn't play well down the stretch, I'd say they were justified in many of their comments. So let's tone down the rhetoric regarding "idiot fans" and such...


JMO

Oh and I'm glad Rob is taking some time off to recover from the season. I can imagine his and alot of the other players bodies need that recovery time... Tho I did read that Julius was at a charity function in Chicago w/Thomas on Sun. Let's hope he didn't recover TOO much...

Point taken. I'll cut down on my "idiot fan" references.

However, I find it.......ironic that I'm being called out. Oh well, I guess.
Like I said, I found the posts vulgar and insulting. Especially to the father of one of the players who plays for our favorite team. He is also kind enough to share inside type info. I enjoyed Pittdawgs posts, and felt that because of other "passionate" fans trashing of his son. His posts tailed off dramatically, which was not cool by me and I wanted to be heard.

Hence the reason I stay away from here after this team loses, it gets ugly and often personal.

 

[AbeBeta]

Point taken. I'll cut down on my "idiot fan" references.

I don't think you should. I respect our mods but I don't think they should censor your comments. Me, I want to see the true north strong and free -- not watching his tongue.

And I think you are right - some folks are idiots and it is the role of intelligent fans to call them out.

 

[Clove]

I don't think Petitti has what it takes at this time. Maybe in a few years, and maybe after an entire year of conditioning/footwork/weight training he could be a great find.

But he's way in over his head at this point. No knock against him personally, ( I don't know him personally ) I think he has the proper attitude (mean *** is what you need to be ) and he definitely has the size, but his footwork/balance/ and strength is horrible at best.

Sit the kid for a year, and let him train and then he could be a stud in year 3.

 

[Billy Bullocks]

BINGO!!! Glad someone ELSE said it. Hats off to you Pittdawg for putting up with the crap that was posted.

A LOT of the fans here are idiots who post to see themselves in print. And they say some really nasty & ignorant things. Yet I'm guessing that none of them have ever gotten closer to a football game than their tv set, but somehow they're experts who can bash those who do put themselves on the line (players & coaches) every day.

Those are the same type of fans who end up harassing players' wives at games or throwing things at players. Peter King recently talked about Tony Dungy & how Dungy once mildly rebuked him (King) by pointing out that what King & others say affects families as well as the coach or player. Unfortunately, I think that's the aim of many sportswriters & fans on boards like this--they want to hurt (at least emotionally) the family members.

It's not nasty and ingnorant at all. We arent harrasing Pittdawg, people just said things that were on their mind.

Look, I give Rob the benefit of the doubt here, he's a 6th round rookie...still doesn't mean that yall need to make any excuses. This is the highest level of competition, and if you don't perform, expect fans to get angry. Regardless of weather or not someones dad is gonna hear it.

I dont think anyone personally attacked Mr. Pettiti or Rob, just critiqued his play

 

[Hiero]

It's not nasty and ingnorant at all. We arent harrasing Pittdawg, people just said things that were on their mind.

Look, I give Rob the benefit of the doubt here, he's a 6th round rookie...still doesn't mean that yall need to make any excuses. This is the highest level of competition, and if you don't perform, expect fans to get angry. Regardless of weather or not someones dad is gonna hear it.

I dont think anyone personally attacked Mr. Pettiti or Rob, just critiqued his play

I specifically remember someone calling Mr. Petitti a doodie head.

 

[FolsomCowboy]

I think we can all agree Rob had his struggles this year, the whole O-line did, but he played 16 games as a rookie and you know what, he now has a full year of starting experience which I bet is going to pay HUGE dividends next season.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

BINGO!!! Glad someone ELSE said it. Hats off to you Pittdawg for putting up with the crap that was posted.

A LOT of the fans here are idiots who post to see themselves in print. And they say some really nasty & ignorant things. Yet I'm guessing that none of them have ever gotten closer to a football game than their tv set, but somehow they're experts who can bash those who do put themselves on the line (players & coaches) every day.

Why not just come out and name names instead of just making generalizations. I dont remember anyone vicisously attacking the guy and I was one of the main guys defending him. Everything I saw negative about him was football related and was far from personal.

Those are the same type of fans who end up harassing players' wives at games or throwing things at players. Peter King recently talked about Tony Dungy & how Dungy once mildly rebuked him (King) by pointing out that what King & others say affects families as well as the coach or player. Unfortunately, I think that's the aim of many sportswriters & fans on boards like this--they want to hurt (at least emotionally) the family members.

Again, "those", "They", "Them". Start naming names, inquiring minds would like to know who you thought was attacking the guy on a personal level. I have to assume it was on a personal level because on a football level, I think everyone on the team is fair game.

KM you bring alot to the table and could go toe-to-toe with the best debaters and knowledgable fans on any Cowboys Board, but lately some of your posts have been "attacking" and "condescending", especially when it comes to Big Bill. You should know by now there are always going to be people who dont hold your point of view.

And for what it is worth, I doubt any of the negative rhetoric regarding Petitti came anywhere close to players like Troy Hambrick, Chad Hutchinson and Quincy Carter. Some of the posts about those guys attacked their sisters, their mothers and even the players on a personal level.

- Mike G.

 

[Verdict]

Why not just come out and name names instead of just making generalizations. I dont remember anyone vicisously attacking the guy and I was one of the main guys defending him. Everything I saw negative about him was football related and was far from personal.



Again, "those", "They", "Them". Start naming names, inquiring minds would like to know who you thought was attacking the guy on a personal level. I have to assume it was on a personal level because on a football level, I think everyone on the team is fair game.

KM you bring alot to the table and could go toe-to-toe with the best debaters and knowledgable fans on any Cowboys Board, but lately some of your posts have been "attacking" and "condescending", especially when it comes to Big Bill. You should know by now there are always going to be people who dont hold your point of view.

And for what it is worth, I doubt any of the negative rhetoric regarding Petitti came anywhere close to players like Troy Hambrick, Chad Hutchinson and Quincy Carter. Some of the posts about those guys attacked their sisters, their mothers and even the players on a personal level.

- Mike G.

No not QUINTSY!! BWaa HAAA

 

[jterrell]

i think rob and strenght coach jurasak(?sp) already have an off season program worked out for rob. rob has been up north for the last two weeks to relax and unwind from this past season. i do believe the excesive weight loss, along with the high ankle sprain during the detroit game, played a big part in his wearing down as the season progressed. that said, rob also knows alot of work needs to be done to improve his level of play and by no means thinks that one year has assured him a long career. he'll be working on his own with the supervision of jurasak until march when the official unofficial off season work outs begin.

Coach Joe was my strength coach at Texas Tech and I can tell you that Rob will get pushed. It was not at all uncommon for guys to be throwing up after workouts.

We'd run the stadium stairs and other ridiculously taxing things AFTER our weight workouts.

Bam Morris got into NFL shape following a program coach Joe put together.
He went from 285 to 235 in about 4 months and added 200 pounds to his squat. He did no upper body workouts at all because was trying to lose upper body weight to get a lower center of gravity.

 

[TNCowboy]

To those folks who were overly critcial of Rob, ask yourself one question......What were your expectations of a rookie 6th round OT, in the toughest division in the league?

To not be the worst tackle in the league....which he was....