Play Analysis: Tyler Smith

[xwalker]

The play with the unblocked pass rusher that Laufenberg highlighted as a fail by Tyler Smith.

Did Tyler really fail or should the OC have blocked that player?

The unblocked pass rusher is circled in the image.

The red lines are how I think the blocks should have happened.

Biadasz initially chips the circled defender but then releases him and moves to the right.
- Steele (RT) and McGovern (RG) were 2-on-2 vs the pass rushers on that side.
- They should not need help from the OC.

The TE and RB are both running pass routes (i.e. Not blocking).

If Tyler blocked the circled defender then, LT Ball is 1 blocker vs 2 pass rushers.

 

[AsthmaField]

The play with the unblocked pass rusher that Laufenberg highlighted as a fail by Tyler Smith.

Did Tyler really fail or should the OC have blocked that player?

The unblocked pass rusher is circled in the image.

The red lines are how I think the blocks should have happened.

Biadasz initially chips the circled defender but then releases him and moves to the right.
- Steele (RT) and McGovern (RG) were 2-on-2 vs the pass rushers on that side.
- They should not need help from the OC.

The TE and RB are both running pass routes (i.e. Not blocking).

If Tyler blocked the circled defender then, LT Ball is 1 blocker vs 2 pass rushers.

I saw that last night. It certainly looks like he’s the center’s guy.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

Take a look at the film study posted by Rockport in his thread on Tyler's dominance. You can see all the linemen shift to the right at the snap. Tyler shifts to the left. He was obviously out of sync with what the rest of the O-line was doing. Seems reasonable to pin the unblocked man on him in the circumstances.

 

[noshame]

Thanks X

 

[BleedSilverandBlue]

The play with the unblocked pass rusher that Laufenberg highlighted as a fail by Tyler Smith.

Did Tyler really fail or should the OC have blocked that player?

The unblocked pass rusher is circled in the image.

The red lines are how I think the blocks should have happened.

Biadasz initially chips the circled defender but then releases him and moves to the right.
- Steele (RT) and McGovern (RG) were 2-on-2 vs the pass rushers on that side.
- They should not need help from the OC.

The TE and RB are both running pass routes (i.e. Not blocking).

If Tyler blocked the circled defender then, LT Ball is 1 blocker vs 2 pass rushers.

The protection called for the line to slide right so the DT was his man. He slid left and seemed unaware of the call. Your man is typically a half gap away from you to the play side in this blocking scheme. This type of pocket slide protection is usually called when the QB is expected to step up and the the right and release the ball quickly which was exactly what happened on the play. You can get beat from the backside because it does not matter, the ball will be out in time but getting beat up the middle or play side is the kiss of death.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Rule #1 on a quick/short yardage pass play when a DT lines up in the gap between Guard & Center: the Guard has to block down towards the Center. The Tackle also needs to understand this and block down to cover his inside, thus worry less about the outside. That DT who came through untouched between C & LG was Tyler Smith's responsibility.

 

[conner01]

Regardless of the single play, overall he did really well in pass protection
Plays like that are tough for a rookie playing a new position
He will make mistakes in assignments but that kid is really physical, too physical sometimes lol
If a guy can handle the physical part of a position he can learn the assignment parts
Not a PFF fan but they gave him a 80 rating on pass blocking which is pretty solid for a rookie playing a new position
The team didn’t play bad but killed the selves with penalties
MM has got to get the penalties under control
It’s hard to win in the nfl with 10-12 penalties

 

[Haimerej]

The protection called for the line to slide right so the DT was his man. He slid left and seemed unaware of the call. Your man is typically a half gap away from you to the play side in this blocking scheme. This type of pocket slide protection is usually called when the QB is expected to step up and the the right and release the ball quickly which was exactly what happened on the play. You can get bet from the backside because it does not matter, the ball will be out in time but getting beat up the middle or play side is the kiss of death.

This. Whole line slides except Tyler.

 

[xwalker]

Take a look at the film study posted by Rockport in his thread on Tyler's dominance. You can see all the linemen shift to the right at the snap. Tyler shifts to the left. He was obviously out of sync with what the rest of the O-line was doing. Seems reasonable to pin the unblocked man on him in the circumstances.

Rule #1 on a quick/short yardage pass play when a DT lines up in the gap between Guard & Center: the Guard has to block down towards the Center. The Tackle also needs to understand this and block down to cover his inside, thus worry less about the outside. That DT who came through untouched between C & LG was Tyler Smith's responsibility.

The protection called for the line to slide right so the DT was his man. He slid left and seemed unaware of the call. Your man is typically a half gap away from you to the play side in this blocking scheme. This type of pocket slide protection is usually called when the QB is expected to step up and the the right and release the ball quickly which was exactly what happened on the play. You can get bet from the backside because it does not matter, the ball will be out in time but getting beat up the middle or play side is the kiss of death.

I watched the video analysis by the blogger. The screenshot came from that video...

There was not a 'shift right'.

RT Steele and RG McGovern blocked the only 2 pass rushers that they could block.

LT Ball 'chip' blocked the inside defender and then tried to get back out to the outside pass rusher.
- He would only do that if he was expecting Tyler to take that defender.
- It makes no sense for Biadasz to attempt to block right when there were only 2 defenders on the right side.
- Biadasz did initially 'chip' block the unblocked defender but then released him.
- Even if Tyler made a mistake, it should have been obvious to Biadasz that he should stay on that block because Tyler was not in place to pick it up.

 

[4lifecowboy]

I saw that last night. It certainly looks like he’s the center’s guy.

I thought so too last night, but today I seen that the entire line shifted right with the exception of Smith.

 

[Hawkeye19]

Many concerns about Biadasz… he is the weakest link imo. Gotta step up and deliver big in year 3

 

[CowboyRoy]

The play with the unblocked pass rusher that Laufenberg highlighted as a fail by Tyler Smith.

Did Tyler really fail or should the OC have blocked that player?

The unblocked pass rusher is circled in the image.

The red lines are how I think the blocks should have happened.

Biadasz initially chips the circled defender but then releases him and moves to the right.
- Steele (RT) and McGovern (RG) were 2-on-2 vs the pass rushers on that side.
- They should not need help from the OC.

The TE and RB are both running pass routes (i.e. Not blocking).

If Tyler blocked the circled defender then, LT Ball is 1 blocker vs 2 pass rushers.

If thats the play where tyler moves in one direction and the rest of the line moves the other direction then its 100% Tylers fault. Funny how everyone tries to blame Biadasz. Hilarious actually.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I watched the video analysis by the blogger. The screenshot came from that video...

There was not a 'shift right'.

RT Steele and RG McGovern blocked the only 2 pass rushers that they could block.

LT Ball 'chip' blocked the inside defender and then tried to get back out to the outside pass rusher.
- He would only do that if he was expecting Tyler to take that defender.
- It makes no sense for Biadasz to attempt to block right when there were only 2 defenders on the right side.
- Biadasz did initially 'chip' block the unblocked defender but then released him.
- Even if Tyler made a mistake, it should have been obvious to Biadasz that he should stay on that block because Tyler was not in place to pick it up.

LOL...............so its Biadasz fault because he didnt see that Tyler was whiffing on the block?

More hilarious errant Biadasz blame. Now Its Biadasz fault because other guys are whiffing. LOL

 

[America's Cowboy]

I watched the video analysis by the blogger. The screenshot came from that video...

There was not a 'shift right'.

RT Steele and RG McGovern blocked the only 2 pass rushers that they could block.

LT Ball 'chip' blocked the inside defender and then tried to get back out to the outside pass rusher.
- He would only do that if he was expecting Tyler to take that defender.
- It makes no sense for Biadasz to attempt to block right when there were only 2 defenders on the right side.
- Biadasz did initially 'chip' block the unblocked defender but then released him.
- Even if Tyler made a mistake, it should have been obvious to Biadasz that he should stay on that block because Tyler was not in place to pick it up.

It's a quick throw play called in the huddle. As an Olineman, you should automatically block inside. Tyler Smith didn't do that, especially with a DT lined up in the gap between Tyler Smith and Biadasz. That was Tyler Smith's fault and responsibility.

 

[xwalker]

I saw that last night. It certainly looks like he’s the center’s guy.

Biadasz is blocking air but there were 5 pass rushers on the line.

If the play/line-call requires Biadasz to block air and requires Josh Ball to block 2 pass rushers, then I don't like that play design...

 

[America's Cowboy]

Biadasz is blocking air but there were 5 pass rushers on the line.

If the play/line-call requires Biadasz to block air and requires Josh Ball to block 2 pass rushers, then I don't like that play design...

You're stubbornly not listening to me just because you don't want to blame Tyler Smith.

 

[xwalker]

It's a quick throw play called in the huddle. As an Olineman, you should automatically block inside. Tyler Smith didn't do that, especially with a DT lined up in the gap between Tyler Smith and Biadasz. That was Tyler Smith's fault and responsibility.

There is not an "inside" for the Center...where does your cliché quote require the Center to block...

If the inside block is the top priority, then the Center should block the most 'inside' player.
- The unblocked DT on the left was more 'inside' than the DT on the right side.
- i.e. The unblocked defender aligned in the left A gap while the DT on the right side aligned in the right B gap.
- A gap is more 'inside' than B gap.

Even if Tyler made a mistake, Biadasz should have immediately recognized the right side DT was not a threat, yet Biadasz released the left side DT anyway.

 

[America's Cowboy]

There is not an "inside" for the Center...where does your cliché quote require the Center to block...

If the inside block is the top priority, then the Center should block the most 'inside' player.
- The unblocked DT on the left was more 'inside' than the DT on the right side.
- i.e. The unblocked defender aligned in the left A gap while the DT on the right side aligned in the right B gap.
- A gap is more 'inside' than B gap.

Even if Tyler made a mistake, Biadasz should have immediately recognized the right side DT was not a threat, yet Biadasz released the left side DT anyway.

Biadasz expected Tyler Smith to reach inside and take thar DT lined in the gap between them, hence why Biadasz only layer a left hand briefly before looking over to his right to see if Connor McGovern needed any help.

I agree. Biadasz should have held up a little more to help Smith, but Smith totally whiffed by looking left instead of worrying about the DT on the inside gap.

 

[xwalker]

You're stubbornly not listening to me just because you don't want to blame Tyler Smith.

No, I'm just analyzing what I see.

You are just repeating clichés.

Isaiah Stanback (a WR, not an OLineman) make the statement 'always block inside' on quick pass.

The blogger guy makes a video after hearing Stanback's comments.

You post the 'always block inside' cliché after hearing Stanback and the video blogger.

I'll repeat my opinion:
If the play call requires Biadasz to block air and requires Josh Ball to block 2 pass rushers, then I don't like that play call.

LDE: Aligned outside the RT.
LDT: Aligned on the outside shoulder of the RG.
RDT: Aligned on the left shoulder of the OC.

Why would the Center block to the right when the imminent inside threat is on his left shoulder?

Envision if #94 aligned on the outside of the LT was Micah Parsons.
- Would you leave him unblocked while Biadasz is blocking air?
- Parsons would be on top of the QB long before the WR was in position for the QB to release the pass.

 

[xwalker]

Biadasz expected Tyler Smith to reach inside and take thar DT lined in the gap between them, hence why Biadasz only layer a left hand briefly before looking over to his right to see if Connor McGovern needed any help.

I agree. Biadasz should have held up a little more to help Smith, but Smith totally whiffed by looking left instead of worrying about the DT on the inside gap.

Why does Biadasz need to look right when pre-snap the DT on that side it outside the RG but the DT on the left is inside the LG?

The cliché about always block inside sounds good, but it does not explain where the Center should block.