Play Analysis: Tyler Smith

Creeper

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I don't know whose fault it was but Biadasz's biggest problem last year was mental errors like blocking the wrong guy.
 

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No, I'm just analyzing what I see.

You are just repeating clichés.

Isaiah Stanback (a WR, not an OLineman) make the statement 'always block inside' on quick pass.

The blogger guy makes a video after hearing Stanback's comments.

You post the 'always block inside' cliché after hearing Stanback and the video blogger.

I'll repeat my opinion:
If the play call requires Biadasz to block air and requires Josh Ball to block 2 pass rushers, then I don't like that play call.

LDE: Aligned outside the RT.
LDT: Aligned on the outside shoulder of the RG.
RDT: Aligned on the left shoulder of the OC.

Why would the Center block to the right when the imminent inside threat is on his left shoulder?

Envision if #94 aligned on the outside of the LT was Micah Parsons.
- Would you leave him unblocked while Biadasz is blocking air?
- Parsons would be on top of the QB long before the WR was in position for the QB to release the pass.
First of all, quit ASSuming I heard Isaiah Stanback say anything about blocking inside on a quick pass, when I never saw or heard Stanback say that. You, that Mountaineer and several others on purpose do this crap. Stop it before you get called out on such wrong accusations based on assumptions.

Secondly, I just saw the video. If true as the video created said that everyone was supposed to slide and block towards their right on a quick pass play like that, Tyler Smith is 100% responsible for that missed block.
 

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Eatman can't even get a straight answer.

In the first quarter, Smith and center Tyler Biadasz miscommunicated on the line and the Broncos came busting through for a pressure on Cooper Rush, who hurried the throw that led to an interception.

Maybe it was Smith who blocked the wrong guy and didn't slide the protection to the right. And maybe it was Biadasz who missed the blitzer. Either way, those two guys need to be working together. That's what training camp is for, right? Especially on the offensive line, where continuity is so important.

I've asked different coaches and players about this, and no one seems to have a great answer here. There are some who think McGovern has to get his share of snaps, especially if Tyron Smith is going to miss some games at left tackle. And then some will tell you that they don't want to just throw Smith into the fire in a sink-or-swim situation.

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/eatman-time-for-the-tyler-smith-show-to-begin
 
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The play with the unblocked pass rusher that Laufenberg highlighted as a fail by Tyler Smith.

Did Tyler really fail or should the OC have blocked that player?

The unblocked pass rusher is circled in the image.

The red lines are how I think the blocks should have happened.

Biadasz initially chips the circled defender but then releases him and moves to the right.
- Steele (RT) and McGovern (RG) were 2-on-2 vs the pass rushers on that side.
- They should not need help from the OC.

The TE and RB are both running pass routes (i.e. Not blocking).

If Tyler blocked the circled defender then, LT Ball is 1 blocker vs 2 pass rushers.

Funny, I just mentioned this in another thread. No. Was Smiths guy pretty sure. Just got a little confused I think. Centers gotta watch the mike too
 

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Funny, I just mentioned this in another thread. No. Was Smiths guy pretty sure. Just got a little confused I think. Centers gotta watch the mike too
No threat of a rush from the 'Mike' or other off the line defenders.
- That was unlikely anyway because the TE and RB were running pass routes. The Mike generally has coverage on one of them.
 

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If its Tylers fault and its a mental error then I will take it.
Its the guys like Conor Williams and our center who are both physically not fit to start in this league that I don't want to see out their.

You can teach blocking assignments, You can't teach size and strength.
 

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No threat of a rush from the 'Mike' or other off the line defenders.
- That was unlikely anyway because the TE and RB were running pass routes. The Mike generally has coverage on one of them.
Unless he is blitzing he does. That’s the point. You don’t know exactly what the defense is doing presnap. Good chance the edge picks up the RB on that play and the Mike blitzes. Why was the safety dead center with trips right and a CB on the TE on the other side? I would have read that as someone is coming and they are worried about a big play. You have a Corner on a TE on one side. If the Mike is taking the back either way why doesn’t the single high safety immediately shade left?
 

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The Broncos were rushing five quite often. In most of those five on fives, Tyler had to slide left. If the blocking scheme was to double team the right, while letting a guy run free from the left, then Tyler messed up. On a short pass play to the right, the blocking could have called for a double team on the right. So, the only way to know if Tyler messed up or not, is to know the blocking scheme for that play.
 

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Regardless who is at fault it is all due to poor coaching just like the continued penalties. This offense has coaches but lacks teachers.
 

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The play with the unblocked pass rusher that Laufenberg highlighted as a fail by Tyler Smith.

Did Tyler really fail or should the OC have blocked that player?

The unblocked pass rusher is circled in the image.

The red lines are how I think the blocks should have happened.

Biadasz initially chips the circled defender but then releases him and moves to the right.
- Steele (RT) and McGovern (RG) were 2-on-2 vs the pass rushers on that side.
- They should not need help from the OC.

The TE and RB are both running pass routes (i.e. Not blocking).

If Tyler blocked the circled defender then, LT Ball is 1 blocker vs 2 pass rushers.


This is a quick pass to the right. The only DL players who can interrupt that play are the LDE or the DT by preassure up the middle.
The blind side Backer doesnt matter at all. He will never be able to reach the QB before the play is over.

You chip the DT by the center then block him by the guard. LT takes the RDE.
This is the saftest way to make the play happen.

And you have a free Center who may be able to block a LB for a big play.
 

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This is a quick pass to the right. The only DL players who can interrupt that play are the LDE or the DT by preassure up the middle.
The blind side Backer doesnt matter at all. He will never be able to reach the QB before the play is over.

You chip the DT by the center then block him by the guard. LT takes the RDE.
This is the saftest way to make the play happen.

And you have a free Center who may be able to block a LB for a big play.
The WR had to cover more yards than the backside DE. Why exactly would the DE take longer to cover 3 yards than the WR to move 6 yards?
 

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Voch shows a bunch of Tyler's plays including the one discussed here. He has a similar opinion to xwalker.

10:35 for the pressure/int play


Even when he help blocks, he completely dominates the defender then kicks out to find some unfortunate LB.
 

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The WR had to cover more yards than the backside DE. Why exactly would the DE take longer to cover 3 yards than the WR to move 6 yards?

The backside DE is getting blocked by the LT. You are talking about the outside LB.

But even the backside DE has 6 yards to the QB. Just count the 1 yard lines between him and the QB on the pic you posted.
Its 4th and 2. A play to the outside WR. How does the WR has to run 6 yards ?
 

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he is very raw even for a college prospect, techniques can be taught but he has the natural strength.
 

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I don't know whose fault it was but Biadasz's biggest problem last year was mental errors like blocking the wrong guy.

Yeah there were WAY too many plays where he went to help ZACK FRIGGIN MARTIN instead of taking the man running untouched through the middle of our line..
 

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The play with the unblocked pass rusher that Laufenberg highlighted as a fail by Tyler Smith.

Did Tyler really fail or should the OC have blocked that player?

The unblocked pass rusher is circled in the image.

The red lines are how I think the blocks should have happened.

Biadasz initially chips the circled defender but then releases him and moves to the right.
- Steele (RT) and McGovern (RG) were 2-on-2 vs the pass rushers on that side.
- They should not need help from the OC.

The TE and RB are both running pass routes (i.e. Not blocking).

If Tyler blocked the circled defender then, LT Ball is 1 blocker vs 2 pass rushers.

Sounds like he was not at fault.
He is still learning anyways.
 

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If its Tylers fault and its a mental error then I will take it.
Its the guys like Conor Williams and our center who are both physically not fit to start in this league that I don't want to see out their.

You can teach blocking assignments, You can't teach size and strength.

This.

What do people expect? This is why everyone stresses reps. So you can make mistakes and learn
 
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