Play by Play all Passes

[T-RO]

I wanted to thank xWalker for taking the time to thoughtfully put this summary together.

 

[khiladi]

What Sturm is referring to is a Dez limitation. They have to keep it simple for him.

"It is not helping Dak for Janoris Jenkins to know every route that is coming. I promise you that."

 

[WoodysGirl]

Witten isn't even looking for the ball. How could it be to him?

I just think the pass landed in no man's land. How else does a ball land that closely between two receiving targets? You assume to Dez and wouldn't necessarily be wrong, but as was mentioned by someone in this thread. Janoris seemed to think it might've been going to Witten too.

Witten turns up, he had as good a shot at the ball as Dez.

 

[theogt]

I'm still not sure who was the target on this play.. I know it bounced at Dez's feet, but it was close enough to Witten that it could've been to him, too. Just a bad pass by Dak. lol

I hope he wasn't throwing to Witten. At least he saw the open receiver on this play. It was just a very poor throw.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

lmbo, you won the thread

 

[WoodysGirl]

I hope he wasn't throwing to Witten. At least he saw the open receiver on this play. It was just a very poor throw.

I always thought it was a bad pass. I'm just saying what my first thought was when I saw that pass live.

 

[theogt]

I always thought it was a bad pass. I'm just saying what my first thought was when I saw that pass live.

I hear ya, wasn't intending to mean you thought differently. Just posting that for a better view of the play, really.

 

[JDSmith]

I always thought it was a bad pass. I'm just saying what my first thought was when I saw that pass live.

Mine too, but that was because of the camera. The way it panned I saw Witten first and thought it was badly overthrown, then as it got to the point I could see Dez I figured it was badly underthrown. I think we can all agree that it was badly thrown.

 

[theogt]

Mine too, but that was because of the camera. The way it panned I saw Witten first and thought it was badly overthrown, then as it got to the point I could see Dez I figured it was badly underthrown. I think we can all agree that it was badly thrown.

It's either that or proof Dez sucks. I dunno, hard to decide.

 

[theogt]

Zeke has been targeted 35 times and caught 28 passes, with an 11.5 average including the 80 plus yard TD. That's an 80% completion rate.

The pass he dropped, the defender was right there too.

No, that's not why they put Dunbar in on third..

This explains why you think Dez sucks..

Geez. That should have put this guy down for the count.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Hopefully this can stay here as it is time consuming to put this together.

Complete Beasley also wide open
Incomplete - Dez crossing. Zero spacing between Dez and defender Terrible throw. Witten was open and was a better target.
Incomplete – Zeke, led him just a little too much but not a great effort by Zeke. This ball has to be in front (which it was), not behind the receiver. Dak had to move in the pocket due to pressure. Had 4+ seconds before pressure, bad throw.
Complete – Twill Had Witten wide open for first.
Incomplete – Good pass, Zeke drops the ball. Maybe there is a reason they are using Dunbar on 3rd downs. 4 seconds, had Dez wide open, rushed dump off
Incomplete – Long pass to Butler. Has it in both hands and it slips between his hands and body. Can’t really ask for a better pass considering the coverage. Underthrown when Butler was past the defender. Butler adjusted and should have made catch but this was not a good throw. If thrown into deep end zone easy catch.
Complete – TD to Twill who is wide open. Yep

Complete – Witten others also open but good choice
INT – Dez falls down. Dez made an off balance cut and falls. Can't fault either one. **** happens.

Sack – Dak held the ball for about 3.5 seconds. They had Joe Looney on the outside blocking the DE with no help. He is a Guard and can’t block a DE on an outside rush. I'd say over 4 seconds easy, but there was no one open. Witten breaks free late but Dak is not in position at that point to throw.
Incomplete – Throw is planned for Dunbar but Dak has to just throw it away due to LB undercutting the throw. It was 3rd/11 and all other routes were long. Pressure forced Dak to get rid of the ball. They might want to consider a receiver running short of the sticks even on 3rd/11. Pressure came late, this was a designed screen and I think Dak never saw the defender....I think it was just a bad pass that he is lucky to have got away with. That was a pick 6.
Complete – Dak reads the unblocked blitzer immediately and throws short to Beasley. Obvious offsides, took penalty.
Incomplete – Dak put the ball right on Twills hands and away from the defender but this is the type of throw that Twill struggles to catch. Twill has problems on shallow slant routes where he does not have time to adjust. He can catch it on deeper slant routes but the short ones cause him problems. Should have caught.
Sack – Dak tried to bail out of the pocket but ran right into a defender. He should have thrown the ball away but he has made several positive plays this season on similar bail outs. He only held is 3 seconds before bailing out. Closer to 4 secs before bailing out, Zeke open in flat, Witten open in middle coming back
Incomplete – DB obviously interfered with Beasley but it was not called. The ball is complete without the interference. Should have been PI, Zeke also open.
Complete – Dak has to dump to RB due to pressure. No conversion on 3rd down. Dunbar only option

Complete – Pressure at 2 seconds forced Dak to bail out and throw short to Beasley. Best option
Complete – Dak hits Beasley with good throw despite pressure right in his face. Witten also open
Complete – Pass to Dunbar with pressure in his face. Only open guy at time of throw
Complete – Pass to Twill. Not bad but Beasley was streaking past defense wide open for likely TD or at very least better FG position.

Incomplete – Dez misjudged the throw. Should have been an easy catch. I still don't know if he overthrew Witten badly or underthrew Dez badly. Funny that you are blaming receiver here.
Incomplete – Dak hit as he throws. Nothing there

Incomplete – Dak rolls out and hits Witten in the hands with the ball but the defender hit Witten just after the ball arrived. Terrible, almost killed Witten
Complete – Dak had to throw short of the yard markers on 3rd down due to an unblocked pass rusher. Right dec, only one open at time

Complete – Nice roll out and completion to Beasley. Witten open uncovered for bigger gain in middle.
Complete/Penalty – Quick pass to Beasley with good gain but called back to holding by Twill. Same route combo on other side, might have been better to go to other side.
Sack – Flushed out at 2 seconds. Maybe should throw it away, but should a QB really just throw it away after 2 seconds? You are crazy. He had closer to four seconds and missed a wide open Dez as he climbs pocket.
INT – Dak threw into double coverage but Dez bailed out on the route. Play started at 48 of Dallas. Dez breaks free at NYG 40 with no one near him, Dak throws when he is at the 30 and leads him right into coverage. I'm sorry but this is all on QB.

Complete – Short throw to Witten. Only option
Incomplete – Pass directly to Dez but defender under cut it with his helmet. This is where the All-22 would help. It appears that Dez drifted upfield making it easier for the defender but maybe Dak could have thrown to the opposite side of Dez away from the defender. Terrible throw behind dez, could have been lobbed in front and no one was there to make play over top.
Complete – 13 yards to Twill. Dak getting hit as he throws. Nice.
Incomplete – Attempt to Dez. Pressure forced early throw. Zeke blocked blitzer too low. Multiple receivers open, poor throw. Qb had time.
Incomplete – Dak getting tackled as he throws towards Dez. CB is right on Dez (no separation). First read was to right, had Butler with a step in single coverage, came off this and had to throw to Dez late. Missed opportunity.
Complete – If the throw was a few inches more in front of Twill, it would likely have been a 1st down, but Dak has a free rusher in his face and has to throw around a LB that is trying to block the pass. Good decision under pressure.

Incomplete – Dak under pressure has to throw it away. Had time early, then rolled out, horrible decision should have been picked. Throw it away out of bounds.
Complete – Short pass to Dunbar. Missed Beasley breaking open...up hash and then out, wide open.
Complete/Fumble – Dak makes perfect pass while under pressure. Dez gets 1st down then fumbles. Good throw.

Incomplete – Short attempt to Witten. This is one of few passes that did appear to get away from Dak; although he might have just been throwing it away as Witten would have minimal if any gain on the catch. Airmailed. LOS was 3, would have been a 4 yd gain at minimum.
Incomplete – Dak holds the ball less than 3 seconds before being flushed out of the pocket. Trys to hit Dunbar while fading way but was just over his head. Bad but not any real option.
Incomplete – Pass blocked on attempt to Beasley. Nothing really open.
Incomplete – Dez has both hands under the ball. The defender gets his hand in but it was still catchable. The one play that I thought Dak could have run easily for first when he stepped up...middle of field wide open. Defender hits ball first. Hilarious to try and say Dez should have caught.


Two sides to almost every play. I think you clearly are trying to put Dak under more pressure than he was....several of your times that you say he had pressure it is highly exaggerated. There were several wide open receivers that were missed, several for big plays and possible TD's.

 

[xwalker]

Complete Beasley also wide open
Incomplete - Dez crossing. Zero spacing between Dez and defender Terrible throw. Witten was open and was a better target.
Incomplete – Zeke, led him just a little too much but not a great effort by Zeke. This ball has to be in front (which it was), not behind the receiver. Dak had to move in the pocket due to pressure. Had 4+ seconds before pressure, bad throw.
Complete – Twill Had Witten wide open for first.
Incomplete – Good pass, Zeke drops the ball. Maybe there is a reason they are using Dunbar on 3rd downs. 4 seconds, had Dez wide open, rushed dump off
Incomplete – Long pass to Butler. Has it in both hands and it slips between his hands and body. Can’t really ask for a better pass considering the coverage. Underthrown when Butler was past the defender. Butler adjusted and should have made catch but this was not a good throw. If thrown into deep end zone easy catch.
Complete – TD to Twill who is wide open. Yep

Complete – Witten others also open but good choice
INT – Dez falls down. Dez made an off balance cut and falls. Can't fault either one. **** happens.

Sack – Dak held the ball for about 3.5 seconds. They had Joe Looney on the outside blocking the DE with no help. He is a Guard and can’t block a DE on an outside rush. I'd say over 4 seconds easy, but there was no one open. Witten breaks free late but Dak is not in position at that point to throw.
Incomplete – Throw is planned for Dunbar but Dak has to just throw it away due to LB undercutting the throw. It was 3rd/11 and all other routes were long. Pressure forced Dak to get rid of the ball. They might want to consider a receiver running short of the sticks even on 3rd/11. Pressure came late, this was a designed screen and I think Dak never saw the defender....I think it was just a bad pass that he is lucky to have got away with. That was a pick 6.
Complete – Dak reads the unblocked blitzer immediately and throws short to Beasley. Obvious offsides, took penalty.
Incomplete – Dak put the ball right on Twills hands and away from the defender but this is the type of throw that Twill struggles to catch. Twill has problems on shallow slant routes where he does not have time to adjust. He can catch it on deeper slant routes but the short ones cause him problems. Should have caught.
Sack – Dak tried to bail out of the pocket but ran right into a defender. He should have thrown the ball away but he has made several positive plays this season on similar bail outs. He only held is 3 seconds before bailing out. Closer to 4 secs before bailing out, Zeke open in flat, Witten open in middle coming back
Incomplete – DB obviously interfered with Beasley but it was not called. The ball is complete without the interference. Should have been PI, Zeke also open.
Complete – Dak has to dump to RB due to pressure. No conversion on 3rd down. Dunbar only option

Complete – Pressure at 2 seconds forced Dak to bail out and throw short to Beasley. Best option
Complete – Dak hits Beasley with good throw despite pressure right in his face. Witten also open
Complete – Pass to Dunbar with pressure in his face. Only open guy at time of throw
Complete – Pass to Twill. Not bad but Beasley was streaking past defense wide open for likely TD or at very least better FG position.

Incomplete – Dez misjudged the throw. Should have been an easy catch. I still don't know if he overthrew Witten badly or underthrew Dez badly. Funny that you are blaming receiver here.
Incomplete – Dak hit as he throws. Nothing there

Incomplete – Dak rolls out and hits Witten in the hands with the ball but the defender hit Witten just after the ball arrived. Terrible, almost killed Witten
Complete – Dak had to throw short of the yard markers on 3rd down due to an unblocked pass rusher. Right dec, only one open at time

Complete – Nice roll out and completion to Beasley. Witten open uncovered for bigger gain in middle.
Complete/Penalty – Quick pass to Beasley with good gain but called back to holding by Twill. Same route combo on other side, might have been better to go to other side.
Sack – Flushed out at 2 seconds. Maybe should throw it away, but should a QB really just throw it away after 2 seconds? You are crazy. He had closer to four seconds and missed a wide open Dez as he climbs pocket.
INT – Dak threw into double coverage but Dez bailed out on the route. Play started at 48 of Dallas. Dez breaks free at NYG 40 with no one near him, Dak throws when he is at the 30 and leads him right into coverage. I'm sorry but this is all on QB.

Complete – Short throw to Witten. Only option
Incomplete – Pass directly to Dez but defender under cut it with his helmet. This is where the All-22 would help. It appears that Dez drifted upfield making it easier for the defender but maybe Dak could have thrown to the opposite side of Dez away from the defender. Terrible throw behind dez, could have been lobbed in front and no one was there to make play over top.
Complete – 13 yards to Twill. Dak getting hit as he throws. Nice.
Incomplete – Attempt to Dez. Pressure forced early throw. Zeke blocked blitzer too low. Multiple receivers open, poor throw. Qb had time.
Incomplete – Dak getting tackled as he throws towards Dez. CB is right on Dez (no separation). First read was to right, had Butler with a step in single coverage, came off this and had to throw to Dez late. Missed opportunity.
Complete – If the throw was a few inches more in front of Twill, it would likely have been a 1st down, but Dak has a free rusher in his face and has to throw around a LB that is trying to block the pass. Good decision under pressure.

Incomplete – Dak under pressure has to throw it away. Had time early, then rolled out, horrible decision should have been picked. Throw it away out of bounds.
Complete – Short pass to Dunbar. Missed Beasley breaking open...up hash and then out, wide open.
Complete/Fumble – Dak makes perfect pass while under pressure. Dez gets 1st down then fumbles. Good throw.

Incomplete – Short attempt to Witten. This is one of few passes that did appear to get away from Dak; although he might have just been throwing it away as Witten would have minimal if any gain on the catch. Airmailed. LOS was 3, would have been a 4 yd gain at minimum.
Incomplete – Dak holds the ball less than 3 seconds before being flushed out of the pocket. Trys to hit Dunbar while fading way but was just over his head. Bad but not any real option.
Incomplete – Pass blocked on attempt to Beasley. Nothing really open.
Incomplete – Dez has both hands under the ball. The defender gets his hand in but it was still catchable. The one play that I thought Dak could have run easily for first when he stepped up...middle of field wide open. Defender hits ball first. Hilarious to try and say Dez should have caught.


Two sides to almost every play. I think you clearly are trying to put Dak under more pressure than he was....several of your times that you say he had pressure it is highly exaggerated. There were several wide open receivers that were missed, several for big plays and possible TD's.

Dez was never at fault in your version.

 

[Clove]

Dez was never at fault in your version.

Hahahaha

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Dez was never at fault in your version.

So, which of the passes thrown in Dez's direction was he clearly at fault on? The int where he slipped? Ok, that's a tough grade. The ball that was thrown in between him and Witten? The last play of the game that got knocked down by the defender? The slant where it hit the defender in the head? The play where the two of them obviously weren't on the same page where it was thrown 8 yards behind him and before he made his break?

You already have stated your opinion multiple times. Dez sucks. You started a thread about it.

I still think Dak should be QB, but the hold on the job is decreasing.

 

[itsaboat]

You already have stated your opinion multiple times. Dez sucks. You started a thread about it.

You made a lot of valid points and all you get is a response about Dez,

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

You made a lot of valid points and all you get is a response about Dez,

I like to think I am pretty fairminded. From my initial watch of the game I thought Dak was awful, gave him a C-. After watching several times, both looking at time he had and then also seeing what was happening downfield, I think it was more C+ and could possibly be even a little better. I think more often than not, not knowing his progressions, he was targeting an open receiver. That is just step one. I think his mechanics were bad and that he made more poor decisions than he has in many other games. There were definitely big plays available that were not seen. That happens. The last three games have been different than the ones before. Not saying he needs to be replaced now, but it is something to watch.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Dez was never at fault in your version.

And here we have your agenda laid bare.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

Did Dak have a crap game? Yes
Did our WR's have a crap game? Yes
It's not all on Dak and it's not all on the WR's. The combination of the two is what what got us the loss.
I am looking for both to rebound at home against TB.

 

[mahoneybill]

Hopefully this can stay here as it is time consuming to put this together.

Complete
Incomplete - Dez crossing. Zero spacing between Dez and defender
Incomplete – Zeke, led him just a little too much but not a great effort by Zeke. This ball has to be in front (which it was), not behind the receiver. Dak had to move in the pocket due to pressure.
Complete – Twill
Incomplete – Good pass, Zeke drops the ball. Maybe there is a reason they are using Dunbar on 3rd downs.
Incomplete – Long pass to Butler. Has it in both hands and it slips between his hands and body. Can’t really ask for a better pass considering the coverage.
Complete – TD to Twill who is wide open.

Complete – Witten
INT – Dez falls down. Dez made an off balance cut and falls.

Sack – Dak held the ball for about 3.5 seconds. They had Joe Looney on the outside blocking the DE with no help. He is a Guard and can’t block a DE on an outside rush.
Incomplete – Throw is planned for Dunbar but Dak has to just throw it away due to LB undercutting the throw. It was 3rd/11 and all other routes were long. Pressure forced Dak to get rid of the ball. They might want to consider a receiver running short of the sticks even on 3rd/11.
Complete – Dak reads the unblocked blitzer immediately and throws short to Beasley.
Incomplete – Dak put the ball right on Twills hands and away from the defender but this is the type of throw that Twill struggles to catch. Twill has problems on shallow slant routes where he does not have time to adjust. He can catch it on deeper slant routes but the short ones cause him problems.
Sack – Dak tried to bail out of the pocket but ran right into a defender. He should have thrown the ball away but he has made several positive plays this season on similar bail outs. He only held is 3 seconds before bailing out.
Incomplete – DB obviously interfered with Beasley but it was not called. The ball is complete without the interference.
Complete – Dak has to dump to RB due to pressure. No conversion on 3rd down.

Complete – Pressure at 2 seconds forced Dak to bail out and throw short to Beasley.
Complete – Dak hits Beasley with good throw despite pressure right in his face.
Complete – Pass to Dunbar with pressure in his face.
Complete – Pass to Twill.

Incomplete – Dez misjudged the throw. Should have been an easy catch.
Incomplete – Dak hit as he throws.

Incomplete – Dak rolls out and hits Witten in the hands with the ball but the defender hit Witten just after the ball arrived.
Complete – Dak had to throw short of the yard markers on 3rd down due to an unblocked pass rusher.

Complete – Nice roll out and completion to Beasley.
Complete/Penalty – Quick pass to Beasley with good gain but called back to holding by Twill.
Sack – Flushed out at 2 seconds. Maybe should throw it away, but should a QB really just throw it away after 2 seconds?
INT – Dak threw into double coverage but Dez bailed out on the route.

Complete – Short throw to Witten.
Incomplete – Pass directly to Dez but defender under cut it with his helmet. This is where the All-22 would help. It appears that Dez drifted upfield making it easier for the defender but maybe Dak could have thrown to the opposite side of Dez away from the defender.
Complete – 13 yards to Twill. Dak getting hit as he throws.
Incomplete – Attempt to Dez. Pressure forced early throw. Zeke blocked blitzer too low.
Incomplete – Dak getting tackled as he throws towards Dez. CB is right on Dez (no separation).
Complete – If the throw was a few inches more in front of Twill, it would likely have been a 1st down, but Dak has a free rusher in his face and has to throw around a LB that is trying to block the pass.

Incomplete – Dak under pressure has to throw it away.
Complete – Short pass to Dunbar.
Complete/Fumble – Dak makes perfect pass while under pressure. Dez gets 1st down then fumbles.

Incomplete – Short attempt to Witten. This is one of few passes that did appear to get away from Dak; although he might have just been throwing it away as Witten would have minimal if any gain on the catch.
Incomplete – Dak holds the ball less than 3 seconds before being flushed out of the pocket. Trys to hit Dunbar while fading way but was just over his head.
Incomplete – Pass blocked on attempt to Beasley.
Incomplete – Dez has both hands under the ball. The defender gets his hand in but it was still catchable.

Much appreciated that you would take the time to do this. Know it took some effort. Great to see this type of reality check. Bottom line.... lots of pressure on our Rookie QB

 

[xwalker]

And here we have your agenda laid bare.

Yes, he is biased in favor of Dez.

His entire review appeared to be an attempt to take blame away from Dez.

When will you realize that you are the one that is biased...