Play more press man coverage

[crashintonickdm]

play more press man coverage. get physical with these guys. soft zone will result in an automatic loss. LGC

 

[Sydla]

I think you can't go straight man here. We'll get exposed there too.

But we definitely need to pay more man and mix it in more with the zone. If Marinelli goes zone and 3-4 man rush on every third and long, we won't get off the field. Marinelli needs to do a much better job than he did on T-giving.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I think you can't go straight man here. We'll get exposed there too.

But we definitely need to pay more man and mix it in more with the zone. If Marinelli goes zone and 3-4 man rush on every third and long, we won't get off the field. Marinelli needs to do a much better job than he did on T-giving.

Man coverage... safety over the top.

Can't be worse than getting picked apart in zone.

 

[TonyS]

With the way refs are letting defensive players get physical with the WRs, this isn't a bad idea, assuming we have players that can do it. Not sure we do, however.

 

[tomsanders921]

If we match up man, i would put carr on cooper. He's the slowest of the wideouts. I do not want to see carr trailing Maclin or Mathews on crossing routes all day.

 

[Alexander]

Keep seeing this over and over and over again.

What will it take for Marinelli to understand the error of his ways and change his entire philosophy of coaching defense to make this happen?

 

[poost]

I hate when the corners who press then right before the snap they fall back about 5 yards. I think just a little jam at the beginning to mess with the timing would give our DL that extra half second to reach Sanchez.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Man coverage... safety over the top.

Can't be worse than getting picked apart in zone.

Refusing to at least attempt this has cost us.

 

[gmoney112]

Marinelli isn't opposed to press man, Tillman did it a lot in Chicago. He's more inclined to use zone because it keeps defenders eyes in front of them ready to capitalize on turnovers. If you have a pass rush, both schemes are effective, when you don't you have to go into damage control with zone.

The problem with Dallas is, unless we're blitzing, we're probably going to be abysmal at press man against a team like the Eagles. The whole idea is to disrupt timing enough so the pass rush can get to the QB before guys are running free 20-30 yards downfield with their "man" in pursuit. With no pressure, press man is probably the quickest way for Sanchez to have a 400 yard game.

It's great in theory, but when your defense is lacking in talent across the board like ours, crossing routes/pick plays/etc. will destroy us with no pass rush.

Seattle's defense is worlds beyond ours right now so people need to stop making that silly comparison. They have a pass rush, an all-pro CB, and the best FS in the game. They also have great tacklers, and when you combine all those you get a team who will be effective at any scheme, including press man.

I think Marinelli will break it out, but he's going to have to send more than 4 guys when he does. I wouldn't be surprised to see more blitz packages using press man and sending 5-6 guys to prevent big plays and hopefully make Sanchez commit a turnover.

 

[MissouriCowboy]

Sanchez is going to choke like he always does.

 

[cowboys1981]

Play man and since Patmon is back throw in some traps for that drag route they like hitting Mathews on. We'll see another pick six from him. I would also throw Scandrick in on some blitzes as well.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Keep seeing this over and over and over again.

What will it take for Marinelli to understand the error of his ways and change his entire philosophy of coaching defense to make this happen?

Clearly, the answer is to run the same coverage over and over again.

 

[Bluefin]

soft zone will result in an automatic loss. LGC

Nothing is worse that letting the Philadelphia receivers release freely at the line of scrimmage.

We need to be more physical at the line of scrimmage, even when playing zone coverage.

Defenders can jam their assignment before falling back to their zones. Doing this might also allow linebackers and safeties not over receivers a little extra time to get back to their spots and watch the QB.

Whatever happens, I hope Rod Marinelli has a better plan this time and the offense needs to eat as much clock as possible while not being too predictable.

I don't have the words to express my hatred for the Eagles.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I don't have the words to express my hatred for the Eagles.

Trust me when I say we understand.

 

[crashintonickdm]

whats nuts is... riley cooper stinks, so its essentially a rookie/maclin against our secondary. just play freakin man and eery guy cancel their guy out. its so obvious that zone coverage doesn't work.

 

[Bluefin]

I hate when the corners who press then right before the snap they fall back about 5 yards. I think just a little jam at the beginning to mess with the timing would give our DL that extra half second to reach Sanchez.

It would also allow the other defenders more time to get to their assigned drops.

Man coverage... safety over the top.

Can't be worse than getting picked apart in zone.

It might be.

J.J. Wilcox and Barry Church aren't great in deep coverage, having either in a single high role probably keeps Rod Marinelli up at night.

The corners also get up on WRs at times and fail to get a jam, which leaves the safeties without time to get in position. They are completely exposed if the corners and linebackers don't carry out their assignments.

Whatever the defense does, it needs to be disciplined.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Marinelli isn't opposed to press man, Tillman did it a lot in Chicago. He's more inclined to use zone because it keeps defenders eyes in front of them ready to capitalize on turnovers. If you have a pass rush, both schemes are effective, when you don't you have to go into damage control with zone.

The problem with Dallas is, unless we're blitzing, we're probably going to be abysmal at press man against a team like the Eagles. The whole idea is to disrupt timing enough so the pass rush can get to the QB before guys are running free 20-30 yards downfield with their "man" in pursuit. With no pressure, press man is probably the quickest way for Sanchez to have a 400 yard game.

It's great in theory, but when your defense is lacking in talent across the board like ours, crossing routes/pick plays/etc. will destroy us with no pass rush.

Seattle's defense is worlds beyond ours right now so people need to stop making that silly comparison. They have a pass rush, an all-pro CB, and the best FS in the game. They also have great tacklers, and when you combine all those you get a team who will be effective at any scheme, including press man.

I think Marinelli will break it out, but he's going to have to send more than 4 guys when he does. I wouldn't be surprised to see more blitz packages using press man and sending 5-6 guys to prevent big plays and hopefully make The Dirty Sanchez commit a turnover.

Well, keeping defenses in front of us WATCHING each and EVERY completion isn't ideal.

Playing man, pressing receivers off the line Atleast gives us a chance at disrupting timing. Giving our defense Atleast more time to get pressure on QB if not a sack.

 

[jobberone]

We can't play man well against Philly. Carr doesn't have the speed to cover well enough and the safeties aren't good enough to cover for him. Having said that I'd throw some of it at them and then more if it worked. Carr can get physical near the LOS so it could work some. But Philly lives off big plays so its a gamble.

I'm much more worried about covering the RBs esp wheel routes and the like, those quick inside slants and drags, and the seams and intermediate routes to the TEs yada. That hole in the middle both intermediate short and long kills us.

This game may be won on turnovers, STs, and containing McCoy as much as pass defense.

 

[jobberone]

Well, keeping defenses in front of us WATCHING each and EVERY completion isn't ideal.

Playing man, pressing receivers off the line Atleast gives us a chance at disrupting timing. Giving our defense Atleast more time to get pressure on QB if not a sack.

Good point. They often just need a step.

 

[crashintonickdm]

We can't play man well against Philly. Carr doesn't have the speed to cover well enough and the safeties aren't good enough to cover for him. Having said that I'd throw some of it at them and then more if it worked. Carr can get physical near the LOS so it could work some. But Philly lives off big plays so its a gamble.

I'm much more worried about covering the RBs esp wheel routes and the like, those quick inside slants and drags, and the seams and intermediate routes to the TEs yada. That hole in the middle both intermediate short and long kills us.

This game may be won on turnovers, STs, and containing McCoy as much as pass defense.

like someone in here already said, you stick carr on cooper. combined awfulness cancel each other out. put O on maclin .