Playoff Implications

[Galian Beast]

This Bears Eagles game has put us in GREAT position.

I'll admit, I was afraid that the Eagles could really push us, and I don't think we match up well against them at all. The Skins or the Giants? Yeah. I think we're built to beat teams like those. But the Eagles, their secondary, their speed... it's tough.

Anyways on to my point.

We're 2 games behind the Giants, but if you look at their schedule, it's brutal.

They have us twice, so we're in control of our destiny, and I think we're better than them. They have the entire NFC East, which will help pick themselves apart. And they have a lot of tough games out of the division.

The Eagles have put themselves into a position where they really can't afford to lose any games.

They are 3-5, and essentially need to go 7-1 down the stretch.

I think we go at worst 9-7.

Eagles have New York, New England, NYJ, Dallas,

Giants, have Philly, New Orleans, Green Bay, Dallas twice, NYJ and San Fran...

YIKES...

We have to lose 4 games for the Eagles to really have a shot at winning the division, I just don't see that happening.

 

[The Emperor]

I like our playoff chances for this reason. All four of our wins are NFC wins. That's SIGNIFICANT when it comes to tiebreakers.

 

[IheartRomo]

I like our playoff chances for this reason. All four of our wins are NFC wins. That's SIGNIFICANT when it comes to tiebreakers.

This is what I've been saying all day. We're in great shape. I just wish we knew what to expect from this team on a week to week basis.

 

[The Emperor]

This is what I've been saying all day. We're in great shape. I just wish we knew what to expect from this team on a week to week basis.

I know! As Hostile says, we're on the cusp, but we've been lolligagging on the cusp for far too long. Do something!

 

[JoeCorrado]

I just wish we knew what to expect from this team on a week to week basis.

Exactly what they are saying in Philly. And somebody was saying just the other day how mediocre we were compared to them.

 

[NorTex]

We've got to beat the Bills otherwise we're just following the Eagles to the cellar.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

I like our playoff chances for this reason. All four of our wins are NFC wins. That's SIGNIFICANT when it comes to tiebreakers.

that lions game is going to come back and haunt us, I just know it. :bang2:

 

[Galian Beast]

that lions game is going to come back and haunt us, I just know it. :bang2:

Our schedule has to be hands down the easiest in the league other than if you are in the AFC South.

We need to make the playoffs based on our schedule.

 

[windjc]

Our best bet to get in is to win our division. Always has been.

We are probably not going to go 10-6. Even with our "easy" schedule, 6-2 is A LOT to hope for because we are just too inconsistent. Plus we have 4 division games left and 2-2 is probably what we should expect.

That means we have to sweep Arizona, Buffalo, Tampa Bay and Miami. That's just NOT going to happen. Yes, on paper we are better than all 4 of those teams, but 9-7 is what we should realistically HOPE for.

So can we get a wildcard at 9-7? Maybe, if we win against Arizona and Tampa Bay. That would put our conference record at 8-4 which would be the best tie-breaker.

However between Atlanta, Detroit (who has the tiebreaker against us), Tampa Bay and Chicago, there will most likely be 2 10-6 wildcard teams this years.

If so, the division is our only hope.

Then it comes down to whether or not the Giants go 3-5 in their last 8. If they lose 1 to us, then they have to lose 4 of the following - Philly, Jets, NO, GB, SF.

That's A LOT to hope for.

But, imo, its our best shot.

And, oh yeh, we have to hope that Philly loses at least 2 more.

Ironically, our playoffs will probably come down to week 15. If we beat Philly we have an EXCELLENT chance of going 5-3 in the division and 10-6 overall. And we would probably practically eliminate Philly from the playoffs.

But that's one hell of an "if".

 

[Eric_Boyer]

Our schedule has to be hands down the easiest in the league other than if you are in the AFC South.

We need to make the playoffs based on our schedule.

If we manage to go 3-1 in the next 4, we will be in good shape, but still at risk of missing out.

if we go 4-0, which is certainly possible given the competition, then look out.

 

[JBS]

Our best bet to get in is to win our division. Always has been.

We are probably not going to go 10-6. Even with our "easy" schedule, 6-2 is A LOT to hope for because we are just too inconsistent. Plus we have 4 division games left and 2-2 is probably what we should expect.

That means we have to sweep Arizona, Buffalo, Tampa Bay and Miami. That's just NOT going to happen. Yes, on paper we are better than all 4 of those teams, but 9-7 is what we should realistically HOPE for.

So can we get a wildcard at 9-7? Maybe, if we win against Arizona and Tampa Bay. That would put our conference record at 8-4 which would be the best tie-breaker.

However between Atlanta, Detroit (who has the tiebreaker against us), Tampa Bay and Chicago, there will most likely be 2 10-6 wildcard teams this years.

If so, the division is our only hope.

Then it comes down to whether or not the Giants go 3-5 in their last 8. If they lose 1 to us, then they have to lose 4 of the following - Philly, Jets, NO, GB, SF.

That's A LOT to hope for.

But, imo, its our best shot.

And, oh yeh, we have to hope that Philly loses at least 2 more.

Ironically, our playoffs will probably come down to week 15. If we beat Philly we have an EXCELLENT chance of going 5-3 in the division and 10-6 overall. And we would probably practically eliminate Philly from the playoffs.

But that's one hell of an "if".

we arent going to sweet buf, mia, az, and tb? why the hell not? we better sweep that ****

 

[TheDude]

I like our playoff chances for this reason. All four of our wins are NFC wins. That's SIGNIFICANT when it comes to tiebreakers.

Common Gams> Conf games

the Giants have played 1 more common game and have one less loss so far.

Below shows current position for TB #1-4. The projection assumes the Giants lose to NO, GB and Dal for the remainder and Dal loses once to NYG.

(assuming a same ending and divisional record)

• NY HAS to to lose 1 game between SF and NYJ
• Dallas cannot lose to BUFF, Mia, or the Cards to remain even

11-5 likely gets a WC (dep on Lions and Falcons) but wouldn't win the division. 10-6 and you have to consider the Eagles as too many scenarios unfold.

Suffice it to say, while the NYG holds a lead in TBkrs #1 and #3, If they beat SF and NYJ, their worse conference record doesn't come into play

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[windjc]

we arent going to sweet buf, mia, az, and tb? why the hell not? we better sweep that ****

We are too inconsistent. And 3 of those games are landmines...

Miami is the only gimme.

Buffalo is coming off a stinging loss where the Jets (who run a similar D to us) just shut them down. They will come out with adjustments and will be looking to put up points. If they beat our defense which is struggling with the run and put the pressure on our O, then we could be in trouble. This is the hardest of the 4 games.

Tampa Bay will be playing at home and for their playoff lives. This will be a tough game.

Arizona is also on the road. We should win this, but which Dallas team shows up?

I think 3-1 is realistic. 2-2 and we obviously arent a playoff team. 4-0 is too much to realistically expect, imo.

 

[TheDude]

that lions game is going to come back and haunt us, I just know it. :bang2:

likely means if we dont win the division you are fighting Atl, Chi, Phil for the final WC. Detroit would get the 1st wc in a head to head tie breaker

 

[Eric_Boyer]

We are too inconsistent. And 3 of those games are landmines...

Miami is the only gimme.

Buffalo is coming off a stinging loss where the Jets (who run a similar D to us) just shut them down. They will come out with adjustments and will be looking to put up points. If they beat our defense which is struggling with the run and put the pressure on our O, then we could be in trouble. This is the hardest of the 4 games.

Tampa Bay will be playing at home and for their playoff lives. This will be a tough game.

Arizona is also on the road. We should win this, but which Dallas team shows up?

I think 3-1 is realistic. 2-2 and we obviously arent a playoff team. 4-0 is too much to realistically expect, imo.

Miami has played well the last two weeks and their coaching staff has intimate knowledge of our players. calling that game a gimme is ridiculous.

 

[windjc]

Common Gams> Conf games

the Giants have played 1 more common game and have one less loss so far.

Below shows current position for TB #1-4. The projection assumes the Giants lose to NO, GB and Dal for the remainder and Dal loses once to NYG.

(assuming a same ending and divisional record)

• NY HAS to to lose 1 game between SF and NYJ
• Dallas cannot lose to BUFF, Mia, or the Cards to remain even

11-5 likely gets a WC (dep on Lions and Falcons) but wouldn't win the division. 10-6 and you have to consider the Eagles as too many scenarios unfold.

Suffice it to say, while the NYG holds a lead in TBkrs #1 and #3, If they beat SF and NYJ, their worse conference record doesn't come into play

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Every year people come out and say that we have to be 11-5 to get a WC. And other than 1 year to a team in NE, this is historically never the case.

10-6 almost always gets a WC and even at 9-7 you have roughly a 33% chance.

We could win the division at 9-7 this year. A wildcard at 9-7 would be a poor bet, but possible. At 10-6 we are in like flinn.

 

[windjc]

Miami has played well the last two weeks and their coaching staff has intimate knowledge of our players. calling that game a gimme is ridiculous.

Thanksgiving day. Miami is a poor team traveling on 3 days rest. We win that one.

 

[TheDude]

Every year people come out and say that we have to be 11-5 to get a WC. And other than 1 year to a team in NE, this is historically never the case.

10-6 almost always gets a WC and even at 9-7 you have roughly a 33% chance.

We could win the division at 9-7 this year. A wildcard at 9-7 would be a poor bet, but possible. At 10-6 we are in like flinn.[/QUOTE]

I was illustrating that nfc games are secondary to common games and currently the giants have that advantage.

10-6 will likely get a wc. But gb is winning the north and as it looks today the lions are in for 1 wc.

If we don't win the division there will be strong comp for the last sppt

I say we end up at 9-7the and out

 

[AdamJT13]

Detroit would get the 1st wc in a head to head tie breaker

Unless it's a three-team tie with Atlanta or Tampa Bay (if we beat the Bucs). In a three-team tiebreaker with Detroit and either of them (if we beat the Bucs), we should win based on our NFC record.

 

[UVAwahoos]

That means we have to sweep Arizona, Buffalo, Tampa Bay and Miami. That's just NOT going to happen. Yes, on paper we are better than all 4 of those teams, but 9-7 is what we should realistically HOPE for.

If we can't sweep these teams, there is not even a point in going to the playoffs. We'd have to sweep 3 much better teams there in order to win a Super Bowl.