Please don't start the "must-win" stuff

[kskboys]

You still don’t get how it’s being used. Not saying it’s a must win game which would mean elimination game. This is obviously not a win or go home game.

It’s an important or must win if we want a clearer path to win division and top seed. Which you agreed to.

Simple semantics. People get a bug in their craw about certain misuses of words. I've got several myself, bet you do also.

 

[Diehardblues]

Simple semantics. People get a bug in their craw about certain misuses of words. I've got several myself, bet you do also.

I don’t really know this guys history. Don’t recall getting into a discussion before. Some fans simply try to dismiss the term cause if we lose I guess they think fans will think the season is over. But that’s not how I’m using it.

He basically agreed with my argument on the importance of this game .

He can only see must win used in an obvious elimination game . Must win can be used in other ways. Depending on the importance of the situation.

 

[kskboys]

Did you know that if you say you feel nauseous, you are actually saying other people get sick when they think about you? The word is nauseated.

 

[kskboys]

I don’t really know this guys history. Don’t recall getting into a discussion before. Some fans simply try to dismiss the term cause if we lose I guess they think fans will think the season is over. But that’s not how I’m using it.

He basically agreed with my argument on the importance of this game .

He can only see must win used in an obvious elimination game . Must win can be used in other ways. Depending on the importance of the situation.

You know me. I can’t let it go. I cause I don’t think he’s getting it. Maybe he just refuses to.

It is highly annoying to see people claiming every game is a must win game. That's what they do. I've learned to ignore it, as they're simply trying to be dramatic and go blank stare on you if explain to them that it's not.

 

[gimmesix]

Same vein, my friend.

No CB's never give up catches, and everyone can be blocked. Same as the only real must win scenario means you are officially eliminated if you lose. Really, all they're saying is that it's an important game, that's all. Using a little exaggeration to do so. Same as shut down and unblockable.

But the point is shut-down corner was never meant to mean never gives up catches and unblockable was never meant to mean a player can never be blocked. They are purposefully exaggerative terms. Must-win was intended to mean you are eliminated if you lose. Therefore if you use must-win differently than that, you are misusing it.

However, as much as people are misusing it, I'm sure the way Diehardblues is using it will be added as an acceptable definition. So I'm moving on. I've wasted enough time on this. Like I said, I've tried to avoid being grammar police just for this reason. I'm here to discuss the Cowboys.

 

[gimmesix]

It is highly annoying to see people claiming every game is a must win game. That's what they do. I've learned to ignore it, as they're simply trying to be dramatic and go blank stare on you if explain to them that it's not.

I guess I have trouble ignoring it. I'll try to do better.

 

[kskboys]

But the point is shut-down corner was never meant to mean never gives up catches and unblockable was never meant to mean a player can never be blocked. They are purposefully exaggerative terms. Must-win was intended to mean you are eliminated if you lose. Therefore if you use must-win differently than that, you are misusing it.

However, as much as people are misusing it, I'm sure the way Diehard Blues is using it will some be an acceptable definition. So I'm moving on. I've wasted enough time on this. Like I said, I've tried to avoid being a grammar **** just for this reason. I'm here to discuss the Cowboys.

Simply not true. People are using it to express the importance of a game. Almost the exact same thing as shut down and unblockable. Very little difference.

However, people calling every game a must win game annoys the hades out of me also. I generally stay out of the discussion, as it is silly to start labeling games must win games until the stretch, maybe the last 1-5 games or so, and even then it comes down to the situation.

The 07 Giants lost several "must win" games. Hmmmmmm...................

 

[kskboys]

I guess I have trouble ignoring it. I'll try to do better.

Meh, whatever you think. I think you're a good poster and you're wasting your time on it, but since I fully understand the annoyance factor, I wouldn't blame you at all if you persisted. I jump in myself at times to tell them it's not a must win game, but all you get is blank stares, as the people proclaiming it have not reasoned it out or used any logic, and will simply repeat it again next game because it give them joy.

 

[Diehardblues]

I think the term “ must win” is probably used too much .

And I’m not using here in the context it’s usually used, This isn’t a must win game. The season is still on if we lose.

My argument was the importance on this game if we want to win the division and be top seed could arguably be a must win type situation as our path will be much clearer if we win.

But some fans simply don’t want that pressure associated with the term I guess cause they associate it with season over. No worries, moving on.

 

[plasticman]

Consider these facts.

A #1 seed gets a bye before playing the weakest seed at home.

A seeding of #2-#4 guarantees a home game in the wildcard round.

The Cowboys are 11-1 at home since the beginning of the 2022 season. They are 6-6 on the road during that same time period.

Not winning the division almost insures three consecutive road games to get to the Super Bowl.

This game may not be a "must win" but if they lose it then the 2nd matchup is absolutely a must win.

If both teams are tied at the end of the season then the first tie breaker is head to head. Assuming that the Cowboys and the Eagles each win a game then the second tie breaker is division record. Currently, they are both undefeated. The third tie breaker is conference record and that's where the Cowboys are at a disadvantage.

A strict definition of "must win" implies losing results in elimination. This does not apply to this game. However, if the Cowboys lose, then the Cowboys would have to achieve a very improbable series of outcomes to some very challenging events. The road that has the highest percentage of success involves defeating the Eagles on Sunday.

 

[Sarek]

Absolutely a must win!

Saying it's not a must win is like preparing to lose.

 

[lukemartin79]

When ever you are trailing a team in the standings and you are playing them. It is pretty much a must win.

I get what you are saying. But we do not want to be 2 games down and really 3 since it is a head to head game.

Agreed, plus also the game will show us all where we are compared to Philly as well. I want to know where we sit with Philly since he Division and possibly the playoffs will be determined by that.
Hurts is not having a great year and the defense is not as good as last years team and its noticeable. Ive only seen Philly play twice this year, but the defense being weaker stood out.
Hoping we have caught up to them or at least closed the gap some - but not sure after the Niners debacle.