Pocket Presence?

[CouchCoach]

5 sacks and 2 fumbles against that defense yesterday by Prescott was alarming because he didn't see it coming or as Aikman said once "Dak didn't feel the pressure". Prescott's predecessor was a master at that.

The other concern I have is just how 100% is that ankle and/or calf? He shows a reluctance to escape the pocket and run and moving to his right, his accuracy is off and if you watch, you will see his foot off the ground which sends the ball high on those overthrows.

The Joneses are notorious for downplaying injuries and I do wonder about Prescott when he has to depend on that ankle. Could be mental as well, that's the key to players with knee operations, they have to trust that joint.

When Lamb went out, trying to keep a very poorly thrown ball from being picked, the game should have shifted to a more mobile QB, if that was possible. No way those backups are scaring the defense and the offense should have reverted to the run game, with the two RB's and the QB.

The question I have is can they? Is Dak Prescott a 100% QB?

BTW, I watched Prescott play his last two years at Miss St and that pocket presence problem was there, he would be surprised that the DL or LB was on him.

I gotta say, if my LT is out and I've got a ? at LG, I am going to be a lot more aware of that than he was yesterday. Shades of Chazz Green and half of those sacks were Prescott's fault in that game.

 

[aikemirv]

5 sacks and 2 fumbles against that defense yesterday by Prescott was alarming because he didn't see it coming or as Aikman said once "Dak didn't feel the pressure". Prescott's predecessor was a master at that,

The other concern I have is just how 100% is that ankle and/or calf? He shows a reluctance to escape the pocket and run and moving to his right, his accuracy is off and if you watch, you will see his foot off the ground which sends the ball high on those overthrows.

The Joneses are notorious for downplaying injuries and I do wonder about Prescott when he has to depend on that ankle. Could be mental as well, that's the key to players with knee operations, they have to trust that joint.

When Lamb went out, trying to keep a very poorly thrown ball from being picked, the game should have shifted to a more mobile QB, if that was possible. No way those backups are scaring the defense and the offense should have reverted to the run game, with the two RB's and the QB.

The question I have is can they? Is Dak Prescott a 100% QB?

BTW, I watched Prescott play his last two years at Miss St and that pocket presence problem was there, he would be surprised that the DL or LB was on him.

I gotta say, if my LT is out and I've got a ? at LG, I am going to be a lot more aware of that than he was yesterday. Shades of Chazz Green and half of those sacks were Prescott's fault in that game.

Prescott is fine. He has never been great in the pocket and moving out of the pocket. Probably his biggest weakness IMO. He has gotten used to having protection. It failed miserably yesterday and honestly most times yesterday he had nowhere to go unless he was going with 1-2 seconds. The collapse on the inside took away anywhere for him to go. He did not play well but I would have not really expected him to given the circumstances. Really has minimal mobility - I have said that all along.

 

[noshame]

When all is said and done in my opinion you'll see shoulder surgery in the off season. He's a guy who's trying reinvent his delivery.

 

[INCowboysFan]

5 sacks and 2 fumbles against that defense yesterday by Prescott was alarming because he didn't see it coming or as Aikman said once "Dak didn't feel the pressure". Prescott's predecessor was a master at that,

The other concern I have is just how 100% is that ankle and/or calf? He shows a reluctance to escape the pocket and run and moving to his right, his accuracy is off and if you watch, you will see his foot off the ground which sends the ball high on those overthrows.

The Joneses are notorious for downplaying injuries and I do wonder about Prescott when he has to depend on that ankle. Could be mental as well, that's the key to players with knee operations, they have to trust that joint.

When Lamb went out, trying to keep a very poorly thrown ball from being picked, the game should have shifted to a more mobile QB, if that was possible. No way those backups are scaring the defense and the offense should have reverted to the run game, with the two RB's and the QB.

The question I have is can they? Is Dak Prescott a 100% QB?

BTW, I watched Prescott play his last two years at Miss St and that pocket presence problem was there, he would be surprised that the DL or LB was on him.

I gotta say, if my LT is out and I've got a ? at LG, I am going to be a lot more aware of that than he was yesterday. Shades of Chazz Green and half of those sacks were Prescott's fault in that game.

His leg looked fine when he trucked that Atl defender on his touchdown run last week.

 

[CowboyFrog]

5 sacks and 2 fumbles against that defense yesterday by Prescott was alarming because he didn't see it coming or as Aikman said once "Dak didn't feel the pressure". Prescott's predecessor was a master at that,

The other concern I have is just how 100% is that ankle and/or calf? He shows a reluctance to escape the pocket and run and moving to his right, his accuracy is off and if you watch, you will see his foot off the ground which sends the ball high on those overthrows.

The Joneses are notorious for downplaying injuries and I do wonder about Prescott when he has to depend on that ankle. Could be mental as well, that's the key to players with knee operations, they have to trust that joint.

When Lamb went out, trying to keep a very poorly thrown ball from being picked, the game should have shifted to a more mobile QB, if that was possible. No way those backups are scaring the defense and the offense should have reverted to the run game, with the two RB's and the QB.

The question I have is can they? Is Dak Prescott a 100% QB?

BTW, I watched Prescott play his last two years at Miss St and that pocket presence problem was there, he would be surprised that the DL or LB was on him.

I gotta say, if my LT is out and I've got a ? at LG, I am going to be a lot more aware of that than he was yesterday. Shades of Chazz Green and half of those sacks were Prescott's fault in that game.

My biggest concern with Dak's pocket presence is even when he gets out the tackle box he doesn't like to throw it away....He has got to let plays go that are dead...

 

[INCowboysFan]

5 sacks and 2 fumbles against that defense yesterday by Prescott was alarming because he didn't see it coming or as Aikman said once "Dak didn't feel the pressure". Prescott's predecessor was a master at that,

The other concern I have is just how 100% is that ankle and/or calf? He shows a reluctance to escape the pocket and run and moving to his right, his accuracy is off and if you watch, you will see his foot off the ground which sends the ball high on those overthrows.

The Joneses are notorious for downplaying injuries and I do wonder about Prescott when he has to depend on that ankle. Could be mental as well, that's the key to players with knee operations, they have to trust that joint.

When Lamb went out, trying to keep a very poorly thrown ball from being picked, the game should have shifted to a more mobile QB, if that was possible. No way those backups are scaring the defense and the offense should have reverted to the run game, with the two RB's and the QB.

The question I have is can they? Is Dak Prescott a 100% QB?

BTW, I watched Prescott play his last two years at Miss St and that pocket presence problem was there, he would be surprised that the DL or LB was on him.

I gotta say, if my LT is out and I've got a ? at LG, I am going to be a lot more aware of that than he was yesterday. Shades of Chazz Green and half of those sacks were Prescott's fault in that game.

He's like 99% of QB's out there. If you are in his face all game and make him uncomfortable in the pocket he's not nearly as effective. See TB vs KC superbowl. The elite, future HOF Mahomes was pedestrian in that game, and he was pedestrian for the last 3/4 of the game yesterday when the rush started getting home.

 

[Vtwin]

An immobile QB who struggles to feel pressure, then reacts to pressure that's not there, is not going to get you there.

For whatever reason, this was Dak yesterday.

Every DC in the league knows this. They all might not have the weapons to bring that pressure but the ones who advance through the playoffs do.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Missing your LT is BIG, Denver, and yesterday and going back to the falcons game a couple of years ago really did alot that day and has not recovered from that day. So whenever Smith is out you know it will not be good for Dak.

 

[thunderpimp91]

If Dak had two bad performances back to back I would worry about his injury. The fact that he was on top of his game last week makes me believe he is 100% though.

Most QBs would have struggled under the amount of pressure he had yesterday. Mix that in with him just not being accurate and it was a disaster.

 

[conner01]

5 sacks and 2 fumbles against that defense yesterday by Prescott was alarming because he didn't see it coming or as Aikman said once "Dak didn't feel the pressure". Prescott's predecessor was a master at that,

The other concern I have is just how 100% is that ankle and/or calf? He shows a reluctance to escape the pocket and run and moving to his right, his accuracy is off and if you watch, you will see his foot off the ground which sends the ball high on those overthrows.

The Joneses are notorious for downplaying injuries and I do wonder about Prescott when he has to depend on that ankle. Could be mental as well, that's the key to players with knee operations, they have to trust that joint.

When Lamb went out, trying to keep a very poorly thrown ball from being picked, the game should have shifted to a more mobile QB, if that was possible. No way those backups are scaring the defense and the offense should have reverted to the run game, with the two RB's and the QB.

The question I have is can they? Is Dak Prescott a 100% QB?

BTW, I watched Prescott play his last two years at Miss St and that pocket presence problem was there, he would be surprised that the DL or LB was on him.

I gotta say, if my LT is out and I've got a ? at LG, I am going to be a lot more aware of that than he was yesterday. Shades of Chazz Green and half of those sacks were Prescott's fault in that game.

Feeling pressure and being under constant pressure is not the same thing
Almost every drop back there was pressure

 

[CCBoy]

5 sacks and 2 fumbles against that defense yesterday by Prescott was alarming because he didn't see it coming or as Aikman said once "Dak didn't feel the pressure". Prescott's predecessor was a master at that,

The other concern I have is just how 100% is that ankle and/or calf? He shows a reluctance to escape the pocket and run and moving to his right, his accuracy is off and if you watch, you will see his foot off the ground which sends the ball high on those overthrows.

The Joneses are notorious for downplaying injuries and I do wonder about Prescott when he has to depend on that ankle. Could be mental as well, that's the key to players with knee operations, they have to trust that joint.

When Lamb went out, trying to keep a very poorly thrown ball from being picked, the game should have shifted to a more mobile QB, if that was possible. No way those backups are scaring the defense and the offense should have reverted to the run game, with the two RB's and the QB.

The question I have is can they? Is Dak Prescott a 100% QB?

BTW, I watched Prescott play his last two years at Miss St and that pocket presence problem was there, he would be surprised that the DL or LB was on him.

I gotta say, if my LT is out and I've got a ? at LG, I am going to be a lot more aware of that than he was yesterday. Shades of Chazz Green and half of those sacks were Prescott's fault in that game.

When doubt is from the center to the left tackle...that is a lot to 'just presence' out of the picture. Throw in over four drops other wise as well...

 

[Praxit]

.....this take is deep. I dont know what to make of it. Still learning? Coaching? Dak Scared?

While watching this from the Telly. In 3rd qtr and Dallas very much in the game. My gut inkling, Dak better turn on the wheels and make plays with your legs. Bootlegs, keepers, screens? etc.. Take blitz pressure off.

....but Zippo.

 

[MysteryIceGuro]

I agree that his moving out of the pocket skills have decreased significantly since his injury last year. Injuries like that mess with you mentally, no matter how much Dak or anyone else says it doesn’t. The skill wasn’t great in the first place, but he needs to take a look at Mahomes (who scrambles and takes yards if he needs to) or Murray. I know he isn’t fast but it’s better than nothing. If it’s a mental thing, I know the Cowboys can get him a sports psychologist to help with that.

in addition to that, sometimes I wonder if he’s just having trouble coping with everyday life? Calvin Ridley of the Falcons took a mental health break and I wonder if that’s what’s going on with Dak. He’s been through a lot these couples years and I know he’s always had that “I wanna be out there mentality” but it feels like something is bothering him (maybe). Maybe the calf brought back the same emotions he felt with the ankle injury but I think deeper something is going on with this offense. They need to set them up with some sort of psychologist soon and stop with the brotherhood bingo and monkey butt games because they aren’t working.

 

[HungryLion]

Dak’s pocket presence has actually improved over the years. It’s not perfect but he has gotten better.

yesterday there was no pocket. So hard to have a presence in a pocket that doesn’t exist.

 

[morat1959]

I’ve tried for 5 plus years to tell all on this board Dak has ZERO pocket presence. For the humpteenth time, I followed from high school to college to the boys. His ability to process is also very slow. On top of that, he’s not a very accurate passer. Here come the haters….but look at his completion %. How bout look at how many yards we lose l, not to mention TDs, because he holds the ball too long and can’t hit a receiver in stride.

 

[Motorola]

Prescott is fine. He has never been great in the pocket and moving out of the pocket. Probably his biggest weakness IMO.. He has gotten used to having protection. It failed miserably yesterday and honestly most times yesterday he had nowhere to go unless he was going with 1-2 seconds. The collapse on the inside took away anywhere for him to go. He did not play well but I would have not really expected him to given the circumstances. Really has minimal mobility - I have said that all along.

Far and away, Prescott's pocket presence IS his biggest weakness; it appears halfway through his sixth season in the NFL - he has not improved one iota in this deficiency in his game.
He lacks the ability to quickly recognize an overpowering rush and quickly adjust to bail out of the called play.
Dak doesn't possess instinctive moves to avoid a sack\ hurry to buy time to improvise.
And - #4's offensive coordinator does not sprinkle in enough QB plays for him to utilize his wheels and size.
Old-fashioned bootlegs, well-timed draws, rollout plays that create throw\run options .

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Far and away, Prescott's pocket presence IS his biggest weakness; it appears halfway through his sixth season in the NFL - he has not improved one iota in this deficiency in his game.
He lacks the ability to quickly recognize an overpowering rush and quickly adjust to bail out of the called play.
Dak doesn't possess instinctive moves to avoid a sack\ hurry to buy time to improvise.
And - #4's offensive coordinator does not sprinkle in enough QB plays for him to utilize his wheels and size.
Old-fashioned bootlegs, well-timed draws, rollout plays that create throw\run options .

Agree, will give Romo credit about his game, was probably the best part of his game, getting out of the pocket and making something happen. Roger had that also but not so much Troy.

 

[Clove]

I hate to argue with idiots but here goes. Dak is 26th in taking sacks this year with 9 games under his belt. The only QB with 9 games that's taken less sacks is Tom Brady.

So again, what about his pocket awareness is worrying everyone again?
Dak Prescott the hated one- 16 sacks
Josh Allen the wonder boy - 15 sacks
Tom Brady the chosen one - 12 sacks
Pat Mahomes the media darling - 20 sacks
Justin Herbert the pretty boy - 18 sacks
Matthew Stafford the chosen one - 14 sacks
Russell Williams everyone's fav - 20 sacks

How many of these had new LT, a new LG, no #1 receiver?

 

[Whyjerry]

Were there “pockets” during the game? I didn’t see many.

 

[JayFord]

you have to have confidence in the line infront of you

that line yesterday was horrible and even when they gave Dak time Dak was still off and so were the receivers