Poll: Should Jerry Hire a GM or not?

xpistofer

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In response to Lebreton's article, I am curious what the common sentiment is...
We all know it would never happen anyway, but should Jerry hire a GM or continue in the role himself?

I say no...I like having him in both roles and (with the exceptions of Campo's 3 seasons) do not blame the lack of success on him...

(mods, can we get a yes or no poll?)
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;1558734 said:
He should, but he won't so the point is moot.

the point is not moot...I would simply like to know what percentage of people think he should. I am betting not as many as the media would like to think...
 

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I've backed Jerry as owner and GM all the way from the start. Having said that i'd be lying if i didn't admit i'd rather he hired a GM from the get go. Jimmy probably would have never left. But Jerry was smart enough to bring Jimmy in to begin with and that got us 3 rings, so what ever Jerry has or hasn't done, to me he'll always be a HUGE part of the 3 championships. From here on out, i'd trust him a heck of a lot more than the 90's Jerry, so i'd have to say we'll be OK with him as GM. He's learned and is doing everything he can to bring us another title.

Jerry should stay as GM.
 

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jobberone;1558737 said:
Stephen might.
I'm not sure. Stephen has taken on a large part of the GM's role in negotiating contracts, etc. I have no idea when Jerry is stepping down, but if it was anytime soon, I'd assume they they would simply give Ireland a better title and have him and Stephen split the GM duties.
 

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Pointless. It's like asking Hos to stop hating kickers. People don't change. And most people don't voluntarily give up power.
 

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If we were to win a super bowl i think that he might be willing to allow Stephen to take over. He looked like a broken man this offseason at times and no number of facelifts will hide his aging.

That being said i think h ewants a winne because in his heart of hearts he wants one without jimmy and no switzer did not count. i mean all the way without jimmy.
 

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theogt;1558746 said:
I'm not sure. Stephen has taken on a large part of the GM's role in negotiating contracts, etc. I have no idea when Jerry is stepping down, but if it was anytime soon, I'd assume they they would simply give Ireland a better title and have him and Stephen split the GM duties.

What's the difference? Jerry would never 'share power'. Sharing the GM role is not different enough than having a GM and being a very active and involved owner.
 

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If you had asked me this question back in the late 90s I would have said no question he should. But I think he's learned a lot since then. I would take this Jerry over 90s Jerry anyday like some of you have said. There are a lot worse GMs out there. We could have Matt Millen.
 

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jobberone;1558758 said:
What's the difference? Jerry would never 'share power'. Sharing the GM role is not different enough than having a GM and being a very active and involved owner.
I think Jerry very much "shares power" now. It was pretty clear that Ireland was in charge of the war room (though Jerry was doing the deals over the phone) and now Stephen is in charge of the contracts. Once Jerry gets his stadium finished, what else is there for him to do?

I think he's slowly become just the figurehead. The guy they call in to shake hands in order to get the deal done -- not actually doing the deals.
 

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theogt;1558760 said:
I think Jerry very much "shares power" now. It was pretty clear that Ireland was in charge of the war room (though Jerry was doing the deals over the phone) and now Stephen is in charge of the contracts.

I very much hope that's the way things are done now. What evidence is there to support this theory? Just curious.
 

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theogt;1558760 said:
I think Jerry very much "shares power" now. It was pretty clear that Ireland was in charge of the war room (though Jerry was doing the deals over the phone) and now Stephen is in charge of the contracts. Once Jerry gets his stadium finished, what else is there for him to do?


I agree Jerry listens to others input. And I agree that Jerry took a back seat to Parcells. Most of the time. I'll never believe he gave the final say so up and I heard Parcells say that Jerry had the final say if you can believe Bill. You better believe that Jerry got what he wanted when he really had to have it...like TO. Parcells would have never done that as GM.

I don't see the Cowboys having two GMs though.
 

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Sabu1;1558764 said:
I very much hope that's the way things are done now. What evidence is there to support this theory? Just curious.
Ireland came out after the draft and just seemed in charge of it. He sort of stepped up from Bill's protege to the guy in charge. Jerry obviously has the final word, but it seems like what Jeff wants, Jeff gets. And Stephen has been doing the contracts for awhile now. Stephen also took a lead role in negotiating the CBA in 2006.
 

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jobberone;1558766 said:
I agree Jerry listens to others input. And I agree that Jerry took a back seat to Parcells. Most of the time. I'll never believe he gave the final say so up and I heard Parcells say that Jerry had the final say if you can believe Bill. You better believe that Jerry got what he wanted when he really had to have it...like TO. Parcells would have never done that as GM.

I don't see the Cowboys having two GMs though.
Yeah, Jerry certainly still exerts control. But it's a slow, yearly process of him giving up control.

It wouldn't necessarily be two GMs. Stephen would be the GM. He's not going to just give up being as involved as he is now. But then again, he isn't a personnel man. That's where Jeff comes in. Jeff on the other hand, to my knowledge, isn't a businessman. He may excel at that side of it, but I'd be reluctant to hand him a full-fledged GM role. Seems like a perfect match to me.

Stephen - GM
Jeff - Director of Personnel
 

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theogt;1558767 said:
Ireland came out after the draft and just seemed in charge of it. He sort of stepped up from Bill's protege to the guy in charge. Jerry obviously has the final word, but it seems like what Jeff wants, Jeff gets. And Stephen has been doing the contracts for awhile now. Stephen also took a lead role in negotiating the CBA in 2006.

Ireland "seemed in charge of it" does not constitute evidence. There is nothing out there that is tangible that says Jerry is not the ultimate decision maker for this franchise on team personnel issues. NONE WHATSOEVER. We can pretend and hope all we want, but the guy with the GM title is Jerry Jones.
 

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Sabu1;1558775 said:
Ireland "seemed in charge of it" does not constitute evidence. There is nothing out there that is tangible that says Jerry is not the ultimate decision maker for this franchise on team personnel issues. NONE WHATSOEVER. We can pretend and hope all we want, but the guy with the GM title is Jerry Jones.
Did you expect me to produce a written, signed contract between the parties?

Jeff's actions after the draft do constitute evidence that he was in charge of the war room. You can ignore it if you like.
 

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theogt;1558777 said:
Did you expect me to produce a written, signed contract between the parties?

Jeff's actions after the draft do constitute evidence that he was in charge of the war room. You can ignore it if you like.

Believe me, I hope you're right. I understand the draft effort could have been shared and Jerry (and Parcells) has said this is so in the past. But Jerry has to understand the perception of the media and fans that he is in control. If your theory is correct, he could save himself (and the fans) so much grief if he would just announce Ireland as the GM and continue on business as usual. But no, Jerry is Jerry and he will do what he does to prove that the media and naysayers are wrong and that he is a legit NFL GM. It's been 10 years and counting...
 

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Parcells rebuilt the structure of the organization. Jeff Ireland was trained by Parcells. Jerry and Stephen Jones will get the job done.

No!
 
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