Positional importance

[SuperBowlz]

We had a nice thread going about how the NT has become a lot more important in todays NFL. Let's break it down by position and not unit because, for example, a 3-4 OLB is a lot more important then a 4-3 WLB and how a LT is more important then a RG. Positions (RB, FB, TE, LT, LG, C, RG, RT, WR1, WR2, QB, CB, S, WLB, MLB, SLB, (DE-3/4 OLB), DT, NT, K, P)
To save time most (not all) go:
1. QB
2. DE or 3/4 OLB
3. LT
4. CB
5. WR1

 

[SuperBowlz]

Just looking to waste some time to get these next 55 days moving!

 

[AsthmaField]

We had a nice thread going about how the NT has become a lot more important in todays NFL. Let's break it down by position and not unit because, for example, a 3-4 OLB is a lot more important then a 4-3 WLB and how a LT is more important then a RG. Positions (RB, FB, TE, LT, LG, C, RG, RT, WR1, WR2, QB, CB, S, WLB, MLB, SLB, (DE-3/4 OLB), DT, NT, K, P)
To save time most (not all) go:
1. QB
2. DE or 3/4 OLB
3. LT
4. CB
5. WR1

Your list looks about right. I might would change number 5 though.

1. QB
2. Edge Rusher
3. LT
4. CB
5. Center

I just think that a good center helps solidify the entire OL and setting protection. WR’s are becoming more and more replaceable as time goes on, IMO. A lot of guys are coming straight out of college and making an impact. So, years ago, I might put WR at 5, but I don’t see it that way any more.

 

[Blackrain]

1-General manager.!!!!!!!
2- Coach.!!!!!!!!
3- Qb.
4- De.
5- Lt.
6-WR 1.
7-CB
8- NT !!!!!!.
9-RB.
10- LB.
My top 10
!!!!!!!!!!= Neglected by our team

 

[jazzcat22]

A truly talented team is more important than anything else.
Coaches and FO. However you still need a decent coaching staff but they don’t have to be the flavor of the month types, as in Peyton or McVay or whoever.

 

[conner01]

We had a nice thread going about how the NT has become a lot more important in todays NFL. Let's break it down by position and not unit because, for example, a 3-4 OLB is a lot more important then a 4-3 WLB and how a LT is more important then a RG. Positions (RB, FB, TE, LT, LG, C, RG, RT, WR1, WR2, QB, CB, S, WLB, MLB, SLB, (DE-3/4 OLB), DT, NT, K, P)
To save time most (not all) go:
1. QB
2. DE or 3/4 OLB
3. LT
4. CB
5. WR1

That’s about the way I see it
The QB is involved in every offensive play so that’s obvious
The rush guy disrupts the opponent QB
LT keeps the QB off his back
CB can keep their one from beating you by himself
WR ideally gets you chunk yards though it’s getting to be a weird position. The prices are soaring yet more talent is coming out than ever before

 

[Tangle_Foot]

We had a nice thread going about how the NT has become a lot more important in todays NFL. Let's break it down by position and not unit because, for example, a 3-4 OLB is a lot more important then a 4-3 WLB and how a LT is more important then a RG. Positions (RB, FB, TE, LT, LG, C, RG, RT, WR1, WR2, QB, CB, S, WLB, MLB, SLB, (DE-3/4 OLB), DT, NT, K, P)
To save time most (not all) go:
1. QB
2. DE or 3/4 OLB
3. LT
4. CB
5. WR1

I agree with this. Everyone knows you need the quarterback, but after that you either want to protect him, or to disrupt him.Then you want to give him weapons, or take his weapon away. Obviously a team with an established roster might change things up a bit, but if you're building a team this is the correct format.

 

[conner01]

A truly talented team is more important than anything else.
Coaches and FO. However you still need a decent coaching staff but they don’t have to be the flavor of the month types, as in Peyton or McVay or whoever.

A good overall roster beats a team with a couple of super stars and weak elsewhere
That’s why it’s so hard to build a good team. Getting 30 good players at any one time is pretty tough
And I say 30 because today you have so many sub pkgs

 

[Blackrain]

In todays NFL with the constraints of the salary cap a general manager with the skills to draft players in lower rounds that can be developed is vital along with knowing what FA to aquire to fill the gaps and get you over the top.
Equally as important is an elite coaching staff capable of developing players and creating a disciplined and winning culture.

Can't pay everybody rookie contracts give small windows of opportunity on talented players.
Absolutely need somebody who can spot players with promise and other people who can get the most out of them at all times.

A front office that can make good choices and is not afraid to pull the trigger is key take the Rams as an example

 

[SuperBowlz]

Your list looks about right. I might would change number 5 though.

1. QB
2. Edge Rusher
3. LT
4. CB
5. Center

I just think that a good center helps solidify the entire OL and setting protection. WR’s are becoming more and more replaceable as time goes on, IMO. A lot of guys are coming straight out of college and making an impact. So, years ago, I might put WR at 5, but I don’t see it that way any more.

Just to argue... I'd say C would be further down the list. Center has huge importance but are you really saying you'd rather have Jason Kelce on Dallas than Davante Adams. Not me. My list would be (after the top 5)
6. RG
7. DT
8. TE (not historically but in todays game)
9. 4-3 OLB like Parsons
10. C
After that it gets hard.

 

[john van brocklin]

We had a nice thread going about how the NT has become a lot more important in todays NFL. Let's break it down by position and not unit because, for example, a 3-4 OLB is a lot more important then a 4-3 WLB and how a LT is more important then a RG. Positions (RB, FB, TE, LT, LG, C, RG, RT, WR1, WR2, QB, CB, S, WLB, MLB, SLB, (DE-3/4 OLB), DT, NT, K, P)
To save time most (not all) go:
1. QB
2. DE or 3/4 OLB
3. LT
4. CB
5. WR1

All starts with the QB.

 

[TequilaCowboy]

In todays NFL with the constraints of the salary cap a general manager with the skills to draft players in lower rounds that can be developed is vital along with knowing what FA to aquire to fill the gaps and get you over the top.
Equally as important is an elite coaching staff capable of developing players and creating a disciplined and winning culture.

Can't pay everybody rookie contracts give small windows of opportunity on talented players.
Absolutely need somebody who can spot players with promise and other people who can get the most out of them at all times.

A front office that can make good choices and is not afraid to pull the trigger is key take the Rams as an example

Exactly, a FO that is held accountable will have a sense of urgency. Not take their sweet time building a championship team.

 

[DanA]

It kind of depends on the team and game plan but I would say tiers:

1. QB
2. Edge / LT
3. WR 1 / CB 1
4. OC / MIKE / 3T / NT / FS
5. OG / SS / TE / Other CBs and WRs

• If you have an inside zone running game (Zeke) OC/ OG lifts in importance.
• If you have outside run game (Pollard) TE lifts in importance.
• If you have a good edge (Lawrence) and MIKE (Parsons) then NT is more important than 3T
• If you have a quick releasing QB (E.Manning) than LT is less valuable than Edge
• If your QB is good escaping the pocket (Rodgers) then Interior O-line drops in importance
• Good OG’s can reduce the importance of a good OC
• If you have an accurate QB (Brady) or strong run game then WR is less important than corner

So I think the position within the tiers changes depending on game plan but I wouldn’t have any position changing tier.

 

[SuperBowlz]

All starts with the QB.

I don't think there's anyone who would challenge you on that. I'll be honest... the Eagles look to have a formidable team from top to bottom but I wouldn't be scared because Philly doesn't have the QB even if they have a nice roster. Just hope they don't turn their 6 picks in the first two rounds over 2023 and 2024 to get a QB.

 

[SuperBowlz]

It kind of depends on the team and game plan but I would say tiers:

1. QB
2. Edge / LT
3. WR 1 / CB 1
4. OC / MIKE / 3T / NT / FS
5. OG / SS / TE / Other CBs and WRs

• If you have an inside zone running game (Zeke) OC/ OG lifts in importance.
• If you have outside run game (Pollard) TE lifts in importance.
• If you have a good edge (Lawrence) and MIKE (Parsons) then NT is more important than 3T
• If you have a quick releasing QB (E.Manning) than LT is less valuable than Edge
• If your QB is good escaping the pocket (Rodgers) then Interior O-line drops in importance
• Good OG’s can reduce the importance of a good OC
• If you have an accurate QB (Brady) then WR is less important than corner

So I think the position within the tiers changes depending on game plan but I wouldn’t have any position changing tier.

Actually you make good points. Do you think how the GMs draft matter? Like punters don't go round 1 so they are less important? I'm not sure

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

We had a nice thread going about how the NT has become a lot more important in todays NFL. Let's break it down by position and not unit because, for example, a 3-4 OLB is a lot more important then a 4-3 WLB and how a LT is more important then a RG. Positions (RB, FB, TE, LT, LG, C, RG, RT, WR1, WR2, QB, CB, S, WLB, MLB, SLB, (DE-3/4 OLB), DT, NT, K, P)
To save time most (not all) go:
1. QB
2. DE or 3/4 OLB
3. LT
4. CB
5. WR1

I think NT should be above CB at a minimum. If your NT isn't good, then your CB's job is harder. But, if your NT is a top NT, then your CB's job is so much easier.

 

[SuperBowlz]

I think NT should be above CB at a minimum. If your NT isn't good, then your CB's job is harder. But, if your NT is a top NT, then your CB's job is so much easier.

Hmmm? I totally get your point but I don't think most teams even have NT anymore. I totally agree with what you're saying but having DTs that are good make the traditional NT obsolete.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Hmmm? I totally get your point but I don't think most teams even have NT anymore. I totally agree with what you're saying but having DTs that are good make the traditional NT obsolete.

Well 1T or NT. Either way, that's a vital position. Look at the Bucs with Vita Vea. Their CBs have it easier because they have Vea.

 

[SuperBowlz]

I think NT should be above CB at a minimum. If your NT isn't good, then your CB's job is harder. But, if your NT is a top NT, then your CB's job is so much easier.

and there's not a NT in the league I'd take over Jalen Ramsey or a young Revis. But your point on the interior DLine collapsing the pocket is spot on!

 

[SuperBowlz]

Well 1T or NT. Either way, that's a vital position. Look at the Bucs with Vita Vea. Their CBs have it easier because they have Vea.

Absolutely. I still just think of a NT as a 350 guy in a 3-4 but times have changed. Maybe I need to rethink the importance.