Positions I hope we upgrade this off-season

[Woods]

Interestingly enough, none of them are starting positions.

When's the last time we could say that?!

Back UP RB
Well, this is obvious. (I'm assuming JJ is gone after this season.) However, I think we need to upgrade both the 2nd and 3rd team RBs. I think we can go a couple of ways here. I hope we get one reasonably priced veteran in FA and also draft a RB.

I'm not sure we use one of our 1st rounders, but I'd expect we use a pick between 2nd-4th rounds, depending if we pick up one in FA as well (which I suspect we will).


Another WR to Complement TO
Glenn is ideal, but again, given his knee injuries, this could be it for Glenn. In any case, I doubt JJ is going to really be able to depend on Glenn's health.

I think we need to get a guy who can stretch the field, rather than mainly a possession receiver. Again, it would not surprise me if JJ tries to replace Glenn with an up and coming veteran. If not, I think it's highly probable we use one of our higher Day 1 Draft picks (Round 1 or Round 2) on a WR.

The reason I think JJ may try to get a veteran to replace Glenn is because we already have developmental WRs on the roster with Stanback, Hurd, and Austin. All 3 of these guys seem to have potential. JJ may want a vet to pair up with TO and Crayton. We'll have to see how FA goes and how much money we have available to spend. But regardless, I think we will get one more WR on next year's roster one way or another.


At Least 1 More CB
I think we need a 3rd CB who after some seasoning, has the skills to become a starting corner. This is regardless whether Reeves is around or not. Personally, I hope we try and upgrade Reeves in FA. But being realistic, the coaching staff may believe that guys like Ball and Ogelsby (sp?) should be able to step up after a year of seasoning.

I expect us to draft at least 1 if not 2 CBs this year. I think we could easily use one of our number 1 picks and a Day 2 pick on upgrading depth at CB.

These are my main positions for upgrade. I'm also assuming that we re-sign Hamlin and Flo. I think Hamlin gets a long-term contract, while Flo either gets franchised or a 2-3 type deal.

Opinions?

 

[Woods]

I should add that in the Draft I think the positions we may end up looking at is

RB - Day 1/early Day 2 pick

WR - Day 1 pick or we go FA route

LB

CB - maybe 2 (Day 1 and Day 2 pick)

SS - esp if K Davis is gone.

OL - push guys like Berger/Procter (Day 2 pick)

Developmental QB (Day 2 pick)

FB? - I like D Anderson. Curious what coaching staff thinks of Hoyte vs. Anderson. Hoyte seems very one dimensional. Staff maybe wants more versatility?

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Interestingly enough, none of them are starting positions.

When's the last time we could say that?!

Back UP RB
Well, this is obvious. (I'm assuming JJ is gone after this season.) However, I think we need to upgrade both the 2nd and 3rd team RBs. I think we can go a couple of ways here. I hope we get one reasonably priced veteran in FA and also draft a RB.

I'm not sure we use one of our 1st rounders, but I'd expect we use a pick between 2nd-4th rounds, depending if we pick up one in FA as well (which I suspect we will).


Another WR to Complement TO
Glenn is ideal, but again, given his knee injuries, this could be it for Glenn. In any case, I doubt JJ is going to really be able to depend on Glenn's health.

I think we need to get a guy who can stretch the field, rather than mainly a possession receiver. Again, it would not surprise me if JJ tries to replace Glenn with an up and coming veteran. If not, I think it's highly probable we use one of our higher Day 1 Draft picks (Round 1 or Round 2) on a WR.

The reason I think JJ may try to get a veteran to replace Glenn is because we already have developmental WRs on the roster with Stanback, Hurd, and Austin. All 3 of these guys seem to have potential. JJ may want a vet to pair up with TO and Crayton. We'll have to see how FA goes and how much money we have available to spend. But regardless, I think we will get one more WR on next year's roster one way or another.


At Least 1 More CB
I think we need a 3rd CB who after some seasoning, has the skills to become a starting corner. This is regardless whether Reeves is around or not. Personally, I hope we try and upgrade Reeves in FA. But being realistic, the coaching staff may believe that guys like Ball and Ogelsby (sp?) should be able to step up after a year of seasoning.

I expect us to draft at least 1 if not 2 CBs this year. I think we could easily use one of our number 1 picks and a Day 2 pick on upgrading depth at CB.

These are my main positions for upgrade. I'm also assuming that we re-sign Hamlin and Flo. I think Hamlin gets a long-term contract, while Flo either gets franchised or a 2-3 type deal.

Opinions?

I really wish people will stop seeing Reeves as the glass half full. What CB in the NFL can't do what Reeves does? Seriously! What game are you guys watching? He is the most targeted CB in the NFL...that ought to tell EVERYONE what the NFL thinks of him....yet their are people who still think he is serviceable...serviceable is good enough for teams just trying to finish .500....he has to go. And we are going to have to make a choice between Stanback and Austin...both cannot be on this roster next year. If Dallas is going to be a pass happy team we are going to need more than TO. I mean none of these guys are who we think they are if our entire offense shuts down when TO is out. So we need to stop with the TO excuse, because TO might not play in the 1st playoff game

 

[Clove]

I will almost bet my farm (which I don't have) that the Boys will go after a Veteren speed receiver. This is not the time to train a rookie for the next couple of years, we have Austin/Stanback for that purpose.

And unless there was a McFadden type receiver out there (you know, a can't miss talent), no way is Jerry going that route.

We need explosiveness on the offense besides TO. Just he alone has made us a top notch offense, imagine TO, an explosive #2 WR, and an explosive RB...

This safety thing needs to get looked at personally. I'm not trying to bash Roy here, but if we are going to move forward with a solid secondary, something has to change back there.

 

[Woods]

I will almost bet my farm (which I don't have) that the Boys will go after a Veteren speed receiver. This is not the time to train a rookie for the next couple of years, we have Austin/Stanback for that purpose.

And unless there was a McFadden type receiver out there (you know, a can't miss talent), no way is Jerry going that route.

We need explosiveness on the offense besides TO. Just he alone has made us a top notch offense, imagine TO, an explosive #2 WR, and an explosive RB...

This safety thing needs to get looked at personally. I'm not trying to bash Roy here, but if we are going to move forward with a solid secondary, something has to change back there.

Yes, I am definitely starting to lean that way as well that we go the veteran route with a WR.

I think JJ replaces one veteran, Glenn, with another veteran. And I think we go after someone who has the speed to stretch the field.

We already have 3 young/developmental WRs on the roster.

 

[Ben_n_austin]

I think we seek a WR in the FA market and draft heavy on the O-line early in the draft, given our position, because that's about the spot of the draft where you find good offensive linemen.

 

[Smith22]

CB: Need more competition for the 3rd spot. Reeves is a target and anyone that doesn't see that has some serious blinders on.

ILB: James has improved since he came to Dallas and Akin is OK. More competition is sorely needed here.

WR: With Owens and Glenn, age is the big problem. Crayton is a solid 3 and OK #2, nothing more. Everyone else is a project. We need to bring in a FA and/or draft a young speedy WR imo.

OT: This comes down to what happens with Adams. This draft class appears to be really strong at OT and with TWO 1st round picks, we could easily draft an OT to challenge Free and McQ, IF we let Adams walk.

S: The NFL now seems to be more of a pass happy league and I think finding a safety that excels in pass coverage should be a priority. Hamlin has been solid and I will leave the whole Roy topic alone (the horse is dead). More competition is needed IMO though and I hope we address this issue in the offseason.

 

[Smith22]

Oops! I left off RB. I'm 99.99% sure Jones is gone. I love me some Barber, but his style would end his career rather quickly. I think we need to target a RB sometime during rounds 1-4 to split time with Barber.

 

[Clove]

I think we seek a WR in the FA market and draft heavy on the O-line early in the draft, given our position, because that's about the spot of the draft where you find good offensive linemen.

I'm dead on with you on drafting heavy OLinemen.

If you look at NE, they always seem to have a great line and speed receivers. Sometimes it doesn't matter if the receiver is actually great, but his speed is what they seem to go after.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

I hope Kenny Phillip is wearing a star. Move the Hammer to SS and get some swagger back there at FS.

I am tired of watching our uninspired saftey back there.

When he had his sleeves cut off in the first half I was hoping to see some 2004 Roy out there, but when he came back out after half time with them on , I think he was content with just being 2008 Roy.

 

[CPonder14]

We should grab a corner with one of our first round picks.
Cason or McKelvin

 

[THUMPER]

The positions I believe we need to upgrade in the draft are:

Safety - Roy Williams is a liability out there. I love the guy but that is the truth. He needs to be moved to LB where he belongs and we need to get a real Safety back there. Could be a first round pick if someone good is there.

RB - As much as I love Barber he has shown at times that he is limited in his ability and is not really an every-down back. I would not replace him but would replace Julius and they can split time. I think this is where we will spend one of our first round picks.

WR - Someone young with REAL talent, not another project player like Crayton, Hurd, Austin, etc. but a real top WR. I know Jerry is leery of spending a first rounder on a WR but we need to do it. Owens and Glenn are getting up there and our young guys aren't stepping up fast enough.

CB - I love Newman and Henry and like some of what I have seen from Reeves but we are hurting when either Newman or Henry are out and we need a third starting CB because so many teams use 3-5 WR-sets now. Reeves is a nice nickel back but he isn't a starter and we need one. This is an area I think we WILL address in round-1.

QB - It kills me watching Matt Moore playing well for the Panthers when he should have been our backup QB. I was against keeping Brad Johnson from the start and now we will likely have to look for another veteran QB next year unless he decides to play another season as Romo's backup. A young guy with talent would have made a lot more sense. The Panthers are now wishing they would have started Moore instead of Vinny around mid-season. He has faced 3 division winners as a starter and is 2-1 against them. I doubt we spend a day-1 pick on a QB but we will take one at some point in the draft.

OL - I am a firm believer in taking an OL on the first day of the draft every year. You can never have enough quality OLs and we should constantly be on the lookout for replacements and upgrades.

 

[Clove]

OL - I am a firm believer in taking an OL on the first day of the draft every year. You can never have enough quality OLs and we should constantly be on the lookout for replacements and upgrades.

 

[TVMan]

Inside LB.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

The positions I believe we need to upgrade in the draft are:

Safety - Roy Williams is a liability out there. I love the guy but that is the truth. He needs to be moved to LB where he belongs and we need to get a real Safety back there. Could be a first round pick if someone good is there.

RB - As much as I love Barber he has shown at times that he is limited in his ability and is not really an every-down back. I would not replace him but would replace Julius and they can split time. I think this is where we will spend one of our first round picks.

WR - Someone young with REAL talent, not another project player like Crayton, Hurd, Austin, etc. but a real top WR. I know Jerry is leery of spending a first rounder on a WR but we need to do it. Owens and Glenn are getting up there and our young guys aren't stepping up fast enough.

CB - I love Newman and Henry and like some of what I have seen from Reeves but we are hurting when either Newman or Henry are out and we need a third starting CB because so many teams use 3-5 WR-sets now. Reeves is a nice nickel back but he isn't a starter and we need one. This is an area I think we WILL address in round-1.

QB - It kills me watching Matt Moore playing well for the Panthers when he should have been our backup QB. I was against keeping Brad Johnson from the start and now we will likely have to look for another veteran QB next year unless he decides to play another season as Romo's backup. A young guy with talent would have made a lot more sense. The Panthers are now wishing they would have started Moore instead of Vinny around mid-season. He has faced 3 division winners as a starter and is 2-1 against them. I doubt we spend a day-1 pick on a QB but we will take one at some point in the draft.

OL - I am a firm believer in taking an OL on the first day of the draft every year. You can never have enough quality OLs and we should constantly be on the lookout for replacements and upgrades.

Kenny Phillips from the U would be a steal at 19.

And you are absolutely right about the talent factor at WR. 6th and 7th rounders are picked there because they are either 4.65 WR's or are very raw and havent been playing for the postion or football for that long. I want talent at WR. I want 4.3 speed. I want size and hands. I also want a pipe because I am dreaming.

 

[Woods]

The positions I believe we need to upgrade in the draft are:

Safety - Roy Williams is a liability out there. I love the guy but that is the truth. He needs to be moved to LB where he belongs and we need to get a real Safety back there. Could be a first round pick if someone good is there.

RB - As much as I love Barber he has shown at times that he is limited in his ability and is not really an every-down back. I would not replace him but would replace Julius and they can split time. I think this is where we will spend one of our first round picks.

WR - Someone young with REAL talent, not another project player like Crayton, Hurd, Austin, etc. but a real top WR. I know Jerry is leery of spending a first rounder on a WR but we need to do it. Owens and Glenn are getting up there and our young guys aren't stepping up fast enough.

CB - I love Newman and Henry and like some of what I have seen from Reeves but we are hurting when either Newman or Henry are out and we need a third starting CB because so many teams use 3-5 WR-sets now. Reeves is a nice nickel back but he isn't a starter and we need one. This is an area I think we WILL address in round-1.

QB - It kills me watching Matt Moore playing well for the Panthers when he should have been our backup QB. I was against keeping Brad Johnson from the start and now we will likely have to look for another veteran QB next year unless he decides to play another season as Romo's backup. A young guy with talent would have made a lot more sense. The Panthers are now wishing they would have started Moore instead of Vinny around mid-season. He has faced 3 division winners as a starter and is 2-1 against them. I doubt we spend a day-1 pick on a QB but we will take one at some point in the draft.

OL - I am a firm believer in taking an OL on the first day of the draft every year. You can never have enough quality OLs and we should constantly be on the lookout for replacements and upgrades.

With respect to Roy and SS, I'm wondering if we just continue to use different packages in obvious passing situations. i.e., using Watkins.

We both agree on needing a 3rd CB, and I think we use a number 1 as well.

As for WR, I'm really wondering if we don't go the veteran route. Basically replace Glenn with a younger vet WR. IF the staff believes that Stanback can eventually become a number 2 wideout, which was there expectation when drafting him, I think we need someone opposite TO who can produce right away. I don't see a rookie being able to do that. Not sure if we have the money to do this, however.

If we go vet WR in FA, then in the Draft I think with our other number 1 we could go a lot of different ways, including OT, RB, or even NT (in case Fergy is close to done in another year or so), though NT is more of a luxury pick.

 

[Clove]

With respect to Roy and SS, I'm wondering if we just continue to use different packages in obvious passing situations. i.e., using Watkins.

We both agree on needing a 3rd CB, and I think we use a number 1 as well.

As for WR, I'm really wondering if we don't go the veteran route. Basically replace Glenn with a younger vet WR. IF the staff believes that Stanback can eventually become a number 2 wideout, which was there expectation when drafting him, I think we need someone opposite TO who can produce right away. I don't see a rookie being able to do that. Not sure if we have the money to do this, however.

If we go vet WR in FA, then in the Draft I think with our other number 1 we could go a lot of different ways, including OT, RB, or even NT (in case Fergy is close to done in another year or so), though NT is more of a luxury pick.

I agree. That receiver will take at least a couple of years to get it right, and maybe 1, but in the mean time, Romo is getting older, Flozell, TO, I can go on.

When you have a SB contending team, you need to get a couple of established stars or atleast, really really good players to push you over the top as soon as possible.

After we won that last SB in the nineties, I just knew we were destined for 3 or 4 more, boy was I wrong. SBs don't grow on trees.

 

[Seven]

I agree. That receiver will take at least a couple of years to get it right, and maybe 1, but in the mean time, Romo is getting older, Flozell, TO, I can go on.

When you have a SB contending team, you need to get a couple of established stars or atleast, really really good players to push you over the top as soon as possible.

After we won that last SB in the nineties, I just knew we were destined for 3 or 4 more, boy was I wrong. SBs don't grow on trees.

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[Frosty]

Trade #1 pick to Cincy for Chad Johnson, they guy wants out of Cincy and would be a dynamic WR for the cowboys

Draft a CB: with the other #1

Then look at RB/LB/OL/DB's

 

[T-Bone 625]

"OL - I am a firm believer in taking an OL on the first day of the draft every year. You can never have enough quality OLs and we should constantly be on the lookout for replacements and upgrades."

Remember, the draft format is changing this year and the 1st day is only two rounds. I'm for drafting OL in the 3rd, 4th, or 5th round, but I think we have more pressing needs (CB, RB, WR) that should be addressed with the 1st and 2nd round picks. Now, that could change depending on FA and how the draft board falls. If a stud OL falls and the value is too good to pass up, then you take him.