post game 2 roster, active/53

[blindzebra]

45 man active roster: 53 man roster:

QB: Romo, Johnson (2) none

RB: Jones, Barber, Thompson (3) none

FB: Hoyte (1) Anderson

WR: Owens, Glenn, Crayton, Hurd, Stanback (5) Austin

TE: Witten, Fasano (2) Curtis

OL: Adams, Kosier, Gurode, Davis, Columbo, McQuistan, Berger (7) Free, Marten

Offense: 20/25

K: Folk (1) none

P: McBriar (1) none

LS: Ladouceur (1) none

ST: 3/3

DL: Spears, Ferguson, Canty, Hatcher, Ratliff (6) Ayodele, Bowen

LB: Ware, James, Ayodele, Carpenter, Spencer, Burnett, Glymph, Obomese (8)

DB: Newman, Williams, Hamlin, Henry, Glenn, Davis, Watkins, Reeves (8) Brown, Thomas

Defense: 21/25

PUP: Ellis

PS: Moore, Battle, Coleman, Ball, Dangunduro, Harrington, Hannah, Rabb

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

45 man active roster: 53 man roster:

QB: Romo, Johnson (2) none

RB: Jones, Barber, Thompson (3) none

FB: Hoyte (1) Anderson

WR: Owens, Glenn, Crayton, Hurd, Stanback (5) Austin

TE: Witten, Fasano (2) Curtis

OL: Adams, Kosier, Gurode, Davis, Columbo, McQuistan, Berger (7) Free, Marten

Offense: 20/25

K: Folk (1) none

P: McBriar (1) none

LS: Ladouceur (1) none

ST: 3/3

DL: Spears, Ferguson, Canty, Hatcher, Ratliff (6) Ayodele, Bowen

LB: Ware, James, Ayodele, Carpenter, Spencer, Burnett, Glymph, Obomese (8)

DB: Newman, Williams, Hamlin, Henry, Glenn, Davis, Watkins, Reeves (8) Brown, Thomas

Defense: 21/25

PUP: Ellis

PS: Moore, Battle, Coleman, Ball, Dangunduro, Harrington, Hannah, Rabb

Ellis was cleared for practice and cannot go on the PUP. Its IR or bust. Do you really think Moore would clear waivers?

 

[blindzebra]

The PUP rules for 2007 states he can go anytime before the cutdown.

And yes I think one good performance against guys that will be flipping burgers in a month isn't going to get him on an active roster.

Moore needs 2 good games at least before I even consider him on the 53, IMO we'll keep 2 kickers before we'd keep 3 QBs.

 

[jobberone]

Ellis played a play one day the first day so he could possibly go to PUP That wont happen though as we need Ellis so he goes to first string to alternate with Spencer and also a little with Carp and Burn

Right now Austin is on the bubble with Stanback and Hurd as the 4 and 5

QB 2

RB JJ B TT 3

FB looks right Deon Oliver 2

TE Wit Fasano and Tony Curtis 3

WR TO TG PC Hurd Stanback 5

OL Proctor is backup center` Red backup T and G with Free and marteen` that is nine with the starters 9

DL is Spears Canty Fergy Ratliff Hatcher and Deli 6

LB are Ware Spencer Ellis Carp Burn A Deli James Junior and a surprise esp if an injury 8 or 9

CB is TNew OHenry Joey Jones Glenn question another 5 or 6

S is Watkins RW Davis Seattle 4

K P snapper 3

Your other two will be settled by injuries and excellent play by 1 or 2 surprises OL DL CB LB DB will eat up those although we could get a Battle or Colenan sneak in there

Surprises will be 1 to 3 or 4 to 5 for injuries

Excellent TC with opportunities for guys to create a job

 

[JBell]

I don't know why you guys are dismissing Polite like that..

He had a very good game vs. Denver, opening up some nice holes in the run game... Though Hoyte and Anderson are the better ST players, Polite is probably the best true FB we have..

 

[blindzebra]

I don't know why you guys are dismissing Polite like that..

He had a very good game vs. Denver, opening up some nice holes in the run game... Though Hoyte and Anderson are the better ST players, Polite is probably the best true FB we have..

Best?

He's an average blocker, can't run at all, and is almost no threat as a receiver.

All you need to know about him is he's behind a freaking LB on the depth chart.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The PUP rules for 2007 states he can go anytime before the cutdown.

And yes I think one good performance against guys that will be flipping burgers in a month isn't going to get him on an active roster.

Moore needs 2 good games at least before I even consider him on the 53, IMO we'll keep 2 kickers before we'd keep 3 QBs.

Youre wrong. He was cleared for practice and particiapated in a drill which makes him ineligible for PUP. Most teams keep 3 QBs and I doubt he would clear waivers.

Ellis could go on injured reserve, but that would wipe out his entire season. He can't go on the physically unable to perform (PUP) list because he's already participated in a practice, even if it was only the initial few minutes of the very first one.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story;jsess...d8016a511&template=without-video&confirm=true

 

[MrMom]

Best?

He's an average blocker, can't run at all, and is almost no threat as a receiver.

All you need to know about him is he's behind a freaking LB on the depth chart.

I concur. The only thing he has an edge over on our other two fbs is hands.

 

[blindzebra]

Youre wrong. He was cleared for practice and particiapated in a drill which makes him ineligible for PUP. Most teams keep 3 QBs and I doubt he would clear waivers.



http://www.nfl.com/news/story;jsess...d8016a511&template=without-video&confirm=true

NFL Roster rules:


* PUP list: Physically Unable to Perform -

This List designates players with serious injuries that will keep them from being able to start a season on the 53-man protected list but may be able to return to the roster during the regular season. The players must be placed on this roster at or before the league-wide 65-man summer roster cutdown to be eligible for this designation, and they must stay on this list for at least the first six weeks of the regular season. After this time teams have 3 weeks to evaluate such players after which each such player must be placed on the 53-man roster, season-ending Injured Reserve (IR) or waivers.

 

[JBell]

Best?

He's an average blocker, can't run at all, and is almost no threat as a receiver.

All you need to know about him is he's behind a freaking LB on the depth chart.

If he's an average blocker, than what is Hoyte? Hoyte is a good blocker when he's not whiffing half the time.

And what's this about he can't run? He's the fastest out of the 3 FB's we have.


Your analysis would be 100% on the mark if you were describing Hoyte...

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

NFL Roster rules:


* PUP list: Physically Unable to Perform -

This List designates players with serious injuries that will keep them from being able to start a season on the 53-man protected list but may be able to return to the roster during the regular season. The players must be placed on this roster at or before the league-wide 65-man summer roster cutdown to be eligible for this designation, and they must stay on this list for at least the first six weeks of the regular season. After this time teams have 3 weeks to evaluate such players after which each such player must be placed on the 53-man roster, season-ending Injured Reserve (IR) or waivers.

Its not mutually exclusive. That just says if youre going to do it you have to do it before a certain date. It sets no conditions for being able to do it.

They cannot just PUP anyone for any reason. They either have to have a nonfootball related injury or have a holdover injury from the previous season.

The moment that Ellis was cleared by team doctors for practice and he went to practice the ability to PUP him went away. Its the same deal with Stanback. He cannot be PUPed either.

If what you were saying was true you would never see a preseason injury ever go on the IR because you could just PUP them get a roster exemption and have a chance of getting them back in the second half of the season.

Youre wrong.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Ellis was cleared for practice and cannot go on the PUP. Its IR or bust. Do you really think Moore would clear waivers?

I think he could, but there is a good chance that he doesn't, but Dallas also has the option to put Bartel, who will clear waivers, on the PS, they like him as well

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I think he could, but there is a good chance that he doesn't, but Dallas also has the option to put Bartel, who will clear waivers, on the PS, they like him as well

Well anything is possible but i dont think there is a high probablity of it happening. i also dont see the sense in cutting him for a guy like Lang or Obomese that has a very good probability to clear waivers.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

If he's an average blocker, than what is Hoyte? Hoyte is a good blocker when he's not whiffing half the time.

And what's this about he can't run? He's the fastest out of the 3 FB's we have.


Your analysis would be 100% on the mark if you were describing Hoyte...

except for Hoyte isn't useless as a receiver, in fact, has been making great strides in that area

Hoyte is our FB

 

[blindzebra]

If he's an average blocker, than what is Hoyte? Hoyte is a good blocker when he's not whiffing half the time.

And what's this about he can't run? He's the fastest out of the 3 FB's we have.


Your analysis would be 100% on the mark if you were describing Hoyte...

Yeah and his career 2.9 YPC means he's blazing.

 

[JBell]

except for Hoyte isn't useless as a receiver, in fact, has been making great strides in that area

Hoyte is our FB

Hoyte making great strides in that area = being able to catch a ball?

He looks more awkard catching a pass than Jumbo Elliot.

All I'm saying is the FB competition is closer than some of you guys think..

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Heres a good explanation from Spags.

Well, you only got part of this right. At this point in training camp, you can put a player on what's called active PUP, which means he would be eligible to go on physically-unable-to-perform at the cut to 53 if he still is unable to pass a physical. When you are placed on PUP at the cut to 53, then you have to sit out the mandatory six weeks. But a player can be removed from active PUP at any point he is healthy enough to resume practicing during training camp. This is more of a procedural move, because a player can not be placed on PUP at the cut to 53 if he has not been placed on the active PUP list once you start training camp. As soon as Colombo is ready to practice, and it will probably be another week, he will be taken off the list. As for a backup at right tackle, right now it appears to be a battle between veteran Jim Molinaro and rookie Jim Marten.

You can only put someone on the active PUP at the start of training camp. In order for them to practice they have to be taken off the active PUP and they cannot be put back on as you can only put someone on the active PUP at the beginning of camp. If youre not on the active PUP at the cut to 53 then you cannot be on the PUP for the season.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news.cfm?contentType=5&id=0F1AF417-BC96-F35D-884AB97DA4F222F3

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Hoyte making great strides in that area = being able to catch a ball?

He looks more awkard catching a pass than Jumbo Elliot.

All I'm saying is the FB competition is closer than some of you guys think..

not saying the comp isn't close, but Hoyte has been on fire all offseason and has been out there w/ the starters the last 2 preseason games, and probably will line up as the starting FB these next 2 games and on opening day

btw, I disagree that Polite is useless as a receiver, he looked good on a couple swing passes last year

 

[sago1]

Proctor instead of Berger on the OL.
Is Bowen good enough to make the team & will we keep 7 DL?
Don't think Ellis eligible for PUP so he makes the team & Obamese goes to PS.
OK with your CB/S selection but sure wish we had a young able to step up CB.

PS: Obamese, Bowen, Hannah, Moore, Battle, Ball, Richardson or Umber, OL player

 

[Bob Sacamano]

btw, isn't it great that we're all getting worked up over who our 52 and 53rd players will be?