post game 2 roster, active/53

[JBell]

Yeah and his career 2.9 YPC means he's blazing.

Did you seriously just use Polite's YPC as evidence to show me how fast he is?



I never said he was Devin Hester out there, but he's faster than Hoyte, there's no way around it.

Polite's 40 time: 4.69
Hoyte's 40 time: 5.02

source: SI.com

 

[blindzebra]

Hoyte making great strides in that area = being able to catch a ball?

He looks more awkard catching a pass than Jumbo Elliot.

All I'm saying is the FB competition is closer than some of you guys think..

We are closer to carrying no FBs than we are Polite making the roster.

Hoyte has been first string since mini-camp and unless he falls off the earth he isn't losing his spot...Anderson hasn't shown much at FB but has been doing well on ST, plus we invested a pick on him.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And thats another thing Berger looked awful at C yesterday. He was getting blown back worse than Johnson ever did. At least Proctor held at the point of attack even if he had a couple of high snaps.

And how on Earth can you justify keeping Obomese and Lang over Moore? Bowen at least has shown something but those tow havent done anything.

You also need to reconsider your active list for ST. Austin for example would be active on gameday.

 

[blindzebra]

Did you seriously just use Polite's YPC as evidence to show me how fast he is?



I never said he was Devin Hester out there, but he's faster than Hoyte, there's no way around it.

Polite's 40 time: 4.69
Hoyte's 40 time: 5.02

source: SI.com

I said he couldn't run...what do backs do? They take the football and run, so yes his YPC means something about how well he runs with the football.

 

[blindzebra]

And thats another thing Berger looked awful at C yesterday. He was getting blown back worse than Johnson ever did. At least Proctor held at the point of attack even if he had a couple of high snaps.

And how on Earth can you justify keeping Obomese and Lang over Moore?

You also need to reconsider your active list for ST. Austin for example would be active on gameday.

It's a preseason prediction after game 2...IOW, it's based on what I saw so far. Berger looked better than you are giving him credit for, I saw Procter wiff 2 or 3 times against Denver.

I don't have Lang on there.

Obomese is on there because Ellis isn't going to be ready to start the season.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Who cares how fast they run?

i mean really as long as they can run to the flat in 3 seconds i could care less and if they get a carry its going to a belly play running up behind a guard.

Its all about blocking and pass protection and being able to halfway run routes.

Polite isnt as strong at the point of attack as the other two and thats the bottom line.

 

[JBell]

I said he couldn't run...what do backs do? They take the football and run, so yes his YPC means something about how well he runs with the football.

Wow, you couldn't have brought up something more irrelevant.

We're talking about fullbacks here, who cares how well they run with the football?

That's not a very convincing argument for Hoyte you got there... if you're criticizing Polite for his 2.9 YPC, what does it say about Hoyte who hasn't even had 1 carry?

The Cowboys need a player at the FB position who can 1) block, and 2) looks like he's caught a pass before.


I don't care how well the fullback can tackle, and I don't care if they have a charming personality. I want someone who's gonna open up holes, and be a reliable outlet for Tony when nothing else is there. And to me, Polite is the leading candidate...

 

[blindzebra]

Wow, you couldn't have brought up something more irrevelant.

We're talking about fullbacks here, who cares how well they run with the football?

That's not a very convincing argument for Hoyte you got there... if you're criticizing Polite for his 2.9 YPC, what does it say about Hoyte who hasn't even had 1 carry?

The Cowboys need a player at the FB position who can 1) block, and 2) looks like he's caught a pass before.


I don't care how well the fullback can tackle, and I don't care if they have a charming personality. I want someone who's gonna open up holes, and be a reliable outlet for Tony when nothing else is there. And to me, Polite is the leading candidate...

So?

He isn't the leading candidate for the Cowboys.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's a preseason prediction after game 2...IOW, it's based on what I saw so far. Berger looked better than you are giving him credit for, I saw Procter wiff 2 or 3 times against Denver.

I don't have Lang on there.

Obomese is on there because Ellis isn't going to be ready to start the season.

Well your entitled to your opinion but i saw Berger get blown back on running plays multiple times.

Regardless who are you cutting for Ellis' spot?

 

[JBell]

So?

He isn't the leading candidate for the Cowboys.

If Polite strings together two more good games he will..

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If Polite strings together two more good games he will..

Anderson had a really good game as well. He was a big reason Thompson got so much yardage. Hoyte is hurt so well just have to see.

 

[blindzebra]

Well your entitled to your opinion but i saw Berger get blown back on running plays multiple times.

Regardless who are you cutting for Ellis' spot?

If he can't go on PUP, he's going on IR, IMO...he's giving no indication that he's going to play...should he make some miraculous recovery, Obomese goes on PS.

If we keep Moore, Bowen or R. Ayodele get the axe.

That leaves the back up center as the only difference between our roster prediction...and frankly neither has played well enough for me not to drop dead if Gurode got hurt.

 

[blindzebra]

If Polite strings together two more good games he will..

As Dandy Don used to say, "If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a merry Christmas!"

 

[playmakers]

Let me ask you guys this, wouldnt it be better to try to groom a long snapper instead of keeping Lacedoure[sp?] I mean thats all that he brings to the club and I understand it is important factor in the game. If we could get another guy who fills a role on gameday to long snap that would open up a roster spot both on gameday[45] and the overall roster[53]. Ill use an example, see if Gurode could do it in camp. Opinions

 

[Rack]

The PUP rules for 2007 states he can go anytime before the cutdown.

And yes I think one good performance against guys that will be flipping burgers in a month isn't going to get him on an active roster.

Moore needs 2 good games at least before I even consider him on the 53, IMO we'll keep 2 kickers before we'd keep 3 QBs.

Just to be safe, I'd let Bartel handle the garbage minutes while Moore develops some "mystery" injury.

 

[Rack]

Are you guys seriously having a "discussion" about who will be our BACKUP FULLBACK?


Hey, preseason has started, we've got more interesting things to discuss, fellas.





For the record, I agree Polite gets cut, but he's a better blocker then he's being given credit for. He doesn't blow them up, but he gets solid position and gets his guy out of the way.

Running the ball, all of them suck. Who cares?

Catching the ball, see above. Although at least Polite can catch it.


But when it comes to passing the ball, none of the FBs make my list for "players I want to see catching passes".

 

[Rack]

Let me ask you guys this, wouldnt it be better to try to groom a long snapper instead of keeping Lacedoure[sp?] I mean thats all that he brings to the club and I understand it is important factor in the game. If we could get another guy who fills a role on gameday to long snap that would open up a roster spot both on gameday[45] and the overall roster[53]. Ill use an example, see if Gurode could do it in camp. Opinions

No. You don't want your LS'er doing anything but long snapping.


What happens if you have him on goalline D or something and he gets hurt?

You're FG and Punt team become a major liability, that's what.


I have no problem with the LS doing nothing but snapping the ball.

 

[blindzebra]

Let me ask you guys this, wouldnt it be better to try to groom a long snapper instead of keeping Lacedoure[sp?] I mean thats all that he brings to the club and I understand it is important factor in the game. If we could get another guy who fills a role on gameday to long snap that would open up a roster spot both on gameday[45] and the overall roster[53]. Ill use an example, see if Gurode could do it in camp. Opinions

Long snappers are typically smaller sized guys, because they need much more flexibility to basically pass the ball back there, especially on punts, so I doubt someone Gurode's size would not have trouble doing it.

Now in an ideal world your #3 TE would be able to double dip, but it isn't an ideal world, and when one bad play...see Seattle game...can be the difference between winning and losing, nobody is going to risk it "grooming" someone to save a space.

 

[blindzebra]

Are you guys seriously having a "discussion" about who will be our BACKUP FULLBACK?


Hey, preseason has started, we've got more interesting things to discuss, fellas.





For the record, I agree Polite gets cut, but he's a better blocker then he's being given credit for. He doesn't blow them up, but he gets solid position and gets his guy out of the way.

Running the ball, all of them suck. Who cares?

Catching the ball, see above. Although at least Polite can catch it.


But when it comes to passing the ball, none of the FBs make my list for "players I want to see catching passes".

I'm just sorry that Witten and Fasano aren't a wee bit better as lead blockers, then we wouldn't even need a darn FB on the roster...actually, if Hannah wasn't so green, I'd be all for keeping 4 TEs and no FBs at all.

 

[CaptainQuint]

Are you guys seriously having a "discussion" about who will be our BACKUP FULLBACK?

Not me, but STARTING fullback isn't yet known.
Ollie Pop had a sore shoulder last year. Was Sunday's problem with the same shoulder?
Parcels always said that Lou Polite was his smartest player. Polite caught a TD pass in the 2005 home win over Eagles.
And didn't he play well on Sunday?