post-Seattle meltdown, 9 thoughts....

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1) those are the kind of games you wish you had back come Dec and everyone is tabulating up their wins and what they need to get in the playoffs. We can't, and never can, afford another mulligan like that in a conference game.
2) we better get ready for Tampa because rest assured they expect to smack us in the mouth too and they hung well over 30 on the NYG.
3) the best we can hope for regarding the Seattle game is to learn to be better prepared and physical going into games the rest of the season.
4) Still can't pin too much blame on Romo, although I do feel confident saying that was a game Aikman, Irvin, and Emmitt would've found a way to gut it out and find a way to win. Romo's a great player. I think Murray can be great oneday hopefully soon. None of our WRs are great yet and Romo needs someone to be. Witten may be fading.
5) We can't get away from Murray in the second half, even when behind.
6) Dez is consistently inconsistent, esp in regards to ballin' every game
7) blocked punt, really, is this high school? That shouldn't happen in the nfl,...ever period
8) when facing a rookie QB, there's a reason defenses blitz and blitz and blitz....bc it usually works. hmmm looks like we have at least 3 more games this year against rookie qbs...hope we learned our lesson.
9) Don't look now, but Spencer now has the same number of sacks as Ware through two games. Unless there is someone worth breaking the bank on out there as a passrusher next offseason, i can see us resigning Spencer. He's a good, but not spectacular, player and I find it hard to believe anyone will let an elite passrusher walk...although Mario Williams did....of course we ain't paying 100 mil.
10)
 
That game was frustrating on so many levels because we don't have anyone to blame solely, it was a team effort of suckiness. I think I am most depressed about the offense, receivers in particular.

Sure, we got down by 10 in a hurry, but closed it to 10-7. That right there is a ballgame! There are no excuses to lay down at that point, especially against that "top notch" offense of Seattle's :laugh2:

Our receivers need to get better, plain and simple. Miles, who had 11 days off got de-hydrated in Seattle in a cool, breezy day? It was not in Texas son

Dez, you are a big, strong young man, get off that line and don't let them knock you off your lanes. Is there a 'focus' pill one can prescribe for him pre-game?

Romo, when Witten is clearly not in sync yet, look for someone else occasionally. I realize our receivers stopped quite a few routes so Romo was forced to tunnel in on Jason, but if I know he looks at Witten first and foremost, the other team does too.

Garrett, what you are trying to accomplish on offense is not working, see how much better we played with Witten not in the gameplan against the Giants? If it was not working vs Seattle, maybe switch to something like the previous week instead of being stubborn and forcing this anemic offense on them.

Witten not in plan, Ogletree, Miles, Hanna and Dez all looked fantastic. Witten the main man = receivers pulled Houdini's

Common factor = stop making the offense go thru Witten, use him like Gonzales, he will be more deadly that way.

Just my two cents
 
That's the last game we will be looking at come December...we were never in it

If for some reason that's a key game we are looking back on, consider us blessed. Bc ultimately that means we will have 0 heartbreakers between now and then.

We got our tails kick and that's that.
 
I don't think that will be a game we look back and say we regret losing that one. They are a bad matchup for us. If we played them 10 times...they would beat us more than we would beat them.

You are not going to go 16-0....so if we get to 10 wins...and that is not good enough to make the playoffs...such is life.

But if we go 9-7...and miss the playoffs by one game....and we have a home loss to the Bucs (especially coming off a butt kicking from the Seahawks)...that is the kind of game of loss I would regret.

Mario Williams.... the Texans let him walk...and there defense is doing just fine. He was injured a lot last year..and they did just fine, so they did the RIGHT thing by not spending 100m on ONE player. If that ONE player is not a franchise QB...spending that kind of money is just foolish. How is that working out for Buffalo? Dallas needs to be wary of continuity for the sake of continuity....the core of this team has been kept together for those reasons...and truth be told..there is not ONE true leader in the core of this team.
 
ghst187;4738774 said:
4) Still can't pin too much blame on Romo, although I do feel confident saying that was a game Aikman, Irvin, and Emmitt would've found a way to gut it out and find a way to win.

There were plenty of games that Aikman didn't "find a way to win"... particularly in the late 90's when he didn't have a dominant team around him. Not even talking about all the help he had from the rest of the team, if he could "find a way to win", wouldn't he have won all of his games?

Like the game against a terrible Rams team when the defending champion Cowboys looked lost and unmotivated in losing to one of the worst teams in the NFL at that time. Why didn't Aikman figure out a way to win in that game? I guess he really didn't want to win or he would have.

Or when an awful Falcons team beat Aikman's vastly superior super bowl winning Cowboys in convincing fashion. The mood must not have struck him to win that day.

It was a loss in Seattle. It happens, to even the best of teams. It certainly wasn't on Romo that they lost.

It's football. **** happens.
 
ghst187;4738774 said:
although I do feel confident saying that was a game Aikman, Irvin, and Emmitt would've found a way to gut it out and find a way to win. )

Good post but particularly this. Man did we get spoiled for a few years. Give me a team of warriors over a team of hyped skill guys every day.
 
bbailey423;4738882 said:
I don't think that will be a game we look back and say we regret losing that one. They are a bad matchup for us. If we played them 10 times...they would beat us more than we would beat them.

You are not going to go 16-0....so if we get to 10 wins...and that is not good enough to make the playoffs...such is life.

But if we go 9-7...and miss the playoffs by one game....and we have a home loss to the Bucs (especially coming off a butt kicking from the Seahawks)...that is the kind of game of loss I would regret.

Mario Williams.... the Texans let him walk...and there defense is doing just fine. He was injured a lot last year..and they did just fine, so they did the RIGHT thing by not spending 100m on ONE player. If that ONE player is not a franchise QB...spending that kind of money is just foolish. How is that working out for Buffalo? Dallas needs to be wary of continuity for the sake of continuity....the core of this team has been kept together for those reasons...and truth be told..there is not ONE true leader in the core of this team.

i meant "regret" in the sense that this game was one we SHOULD'VE won, just like the Jets and both NYG games last year, except this time instead of being ahead late and outplaying the other team, we had a better team that didn't show up to play at any point. We SHOULD'VE won this game and I think we could 8 out of 10 times if replayed. We have enough hard games on our schedule where we play truly good teams and it will be tough to get a win. You really need to beat the crummy teams...like Seattle, on your schedule because any team will be lucky to go better than .500 against the good teams on their schedule.

Totally agree on the Mario Williams thing. The problem with Spencer is there probably won't be a ton of players as good as him on the FA market and maybe even none better at his position. That's going to make an expensive resign. I'm sure jerry (and all of us here) would love an upgrade....but not sure its going to be feasible...both from an availability and financial sense. Heck, we may end up actually lucky to keep him if we do based on who's on the market and what the going prices are.
 
ghst187;4738774 said:
1) those are the kind of games you wish you had back come Dec and everyone is tabulating up their wins and what they need to get in the playoffs. We can't, and never can, afford another mulligan like that in a conference game.
2) we better get ready for Tampa because rest assured they expect to smack us in the mouth too and they hung well over 30 on the NYG.
3) the best we can hope for regarding the Seattle game is to learn to be better prepared and physical going into games the rest of the season.
4) Still can't pin too much blame on Romo, although I do feel confident saying that was a game Aikman, Irvin, and Emmitt would've found a way to gut it out and find a way to win. Romo's a great player. I think Murray can be great oneday hopefully soon. None of our WRs are great yet and Romo needs someone to be. Witten may be fading.
5) We can't get away from Murray in the second half, even when behind.
6) Dez is consistently inconsistent, esp in regards to ballin' every game
7) blocked punt, really, is this high school? That shouldn't happen in the nfl,...ever period
8) when facing a rookie QB, there's a reason defenses blitz and blitz and blitz....bc it usually works. hmmm looks like we have at least 3 more games this year against rookie qbs...hope we learned our lesson.
9) Don't look now, but Spencer now has the same number of sacks as Ware through two games. Unless there is someone worth breaking the bank on out there as a passrusher next offseason, i can see us resigning Spencer. He's a good, but not spectacular, player and I find it hard to believe anyone will let an elite passrusher walk...although Mario Williams did....of course we ain't paying 100 mil.
10)

To me it wasnt losing to Seattle. Because I think Seattle has a VERY good team and its tough to play in thier house. I think its easy to look at a rookie run team and think we should stomp them. But they clearly have the more complete defense, the better Oline, and better running game at this point. And I would have to throw in coaching.

For me, it was the way they lost with no heart or fight.
 
AsthmaField;4738964 said:
There were plenty of games that Aikman didn't "find a way to win"... particularly in the late 90's when he didn't have a dominant team around him. Not even talking about all the help he had from the rest of the team, if he could "find a way to win", wouldn't he have won all of his games?

Like the game against a terrible Rams team when the defending champion Cowboys looked lost and unmotivated in losing to one of the worst teams in the NFL at that time. Why didn't Aikman figure out a way to win in that game? I guess he really didn't want to win or he would have.

Or when an awful Falcons team beat Aikman's vastly superior super bowl winning Cowboys in convincing fashion. The mood must not have struck him to win that day.

It was a loss in Seattle. It happens, to even the best of teams. It certainly wasn't on Romo that they lost.

It's football. **** happens.

The moment Aikman lost that pretty pocket, time to throw, and great run game, he was mud. When Emmitt lost the Oline, he was pedestrian.
 
I only have one thought...


We are in 2nd place behind Philly with a 1-0 division record.
 
9) Don't look now, but Spencer now has the same number of sacks as Ware through two games. Unless there is someone worth breaking the bank on out there as a passrusher next offseason, i can see us resigning Spencer. He's a good, but not spectacular, player and I find it hard to believe anyone will let an elite passrusher walk...although Mario Williams did....of course we ain't paying 100 mil.

:laugh1:

Nobody touched him on either play. I should hope that he could get a sack without a person blocking him.

I'm shocked the play that he was flagged on is still counted.
 
Hoofbite;4739244 said:
:laugh1:

Nobody touched him on either play. I should hope that he could get a sack without a person blocking him.

I'm shocked the play that he was flagged on is still counted.
he was so uncomfortable finishing the play that he gets a face mask on a free shot at a QB.....you can't make this stuff up!
 
Most of our problems are due to our coaches not responding to what Seattle through at us. We should have stopped the run. Instead, we played the same defense throughout allowing Seattle to control us in the second half. We didn't give Romo protection on offense, so he was hurried and kept in the pocket. Of course there were the drops that didn't help either. Just my thoughts.
 
this has to land at the feet of the coaching staff.
we were soundly outplayed in all 3 phases.

we had 10 days to prepare and we looked soft and lost.

there is absolutely zero legitimate reason for us to lose to that team.

the offense had no clue and looked helpless. we couldn't run or pass. we never had anything going. apparently if tony romo cant stand at the line and change the play 3 times before the snap we can't gain first downs. that's complete garbage.

on defense we did suffer injuries but ultimately we couldn't get off the field enough. they did just enough to get 10 yards each set of downs and we made no plays against that kid qb.

special teams was a joke again. the only good news is that it was early in the season so perhaps we tell people they should block on the punt team....

as a dallas fan i truly hope we bounce back immediately and start putting together wins because another game like that and i'd hire a new coaching staff. that was a travesty of epic proportions.
 

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