Potentially Good News for the McFadden Crowd

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Not sure if this deserves its' own post, but if not the mods can do what they see fit:

Many feel that the current trade chart is out of date and obsolete given the cost factor of a high draft pick.

And Pro Football Talk has done something about it.

They've created their own new and updated version.

And for those in the 'two #1's for McFadden bandwagon', under the terms of the 'new chart', those picks would be enough to move up to the #4 overall pick!

Their value for pick #4 is 900 points. Their values of pick #22 is 510 and pick #28 is 430 for a total of 940 points.

Now all you guys have to do is get the 'new chart' to Al Davis in Oakland!
 

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I hope they trade pick 28 for Roy Williams, (can't believe that I'm about to say this) trade for PacMan, and take the best RB we see fit at 22. That scenerio would resolve our 3 biggest needs this offseason.

But what would we do if say Oakland asks for our #22 and next years 1st round pick?:eek: Then end up possibily with Williams, Adam Jones and McFadden. (Just for you Rampage):D
 

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cowboyfan4life_mark;2025288 said:
I hope they trade pick 28 for Roy Williams, (can't believe that I'm about to say this) trade for PacMan, and take the best RB we see fit at 22. That scenerio would resolve our 3 biggest needs this offseason.

But what would we do if say Oakland asks for our #22 and next years 1st round pick?:eek: Then end up possibily with Williams, Adam Jones and McFadden. (Just for you Rampage):D

Hey!

You're stealing my idea from yesterday!

:mad:
 

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cowboyfan4life_mark;2025288 said:
I hope they trade pick 28 for Roy Williams, (can't believe that I'm about to say this) trade for PacMan, and take the best RB we see fit at 22. That scenerio would resolve our 3 biggest needs this offseason.

But what would we do if say Oakland asks for our #22 and next years 1st round pick?:eek: Then end up possibily with Williams, Adam Jones and McFadden. (Just for you Rampage):D
That would be my dream scenario right there. Well worth it imo.(as long as they could work it cap wise which I think is possible)
 

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cowboyfan4life_mark;2025298 said:
Great minds think alike. ;)

By the way, which part?

The 'blockbuster trade' scenario of trading for Pacman, getting Roy Williams at #28, and then using #22 and next year's #1 to move up for McFadden.

I had a post about it yesterday and opinions were all over the place.

Some loved it and others..................... not so much.........
 

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cowboyfan4life_mark;2025288 said:
I hope they trade pick 28 for Roy Williams, (can't believe that I'm about to say this) trade for PacMan, and take the best RB we see fit at 22. That scenerio would resolve our 3 biggest needs this offseason.

But what would we do if say Oakland asks for our #22 and next years 1st round pick?:eek: Then end up possibily with Williams, Adam Jones and McFadden. (Just for you Rampage):D

:madden:



When Roy Williams learns how to run a route other than a streak, then I'll be interested.
 

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Rack;2025308 said:
:madden:



When Roy Williams learns how to run a route other than a streak, then I'll be interested.

Now we all know it's not Madden, it's Rampage!!!!!! :eek::

How's the restore going?
 

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cowboyfan4life_mark;2025321 said:
Now we all know it's not Madden, it's Rampage!!!!!! :eek::

How's the restore going?

It's going slowwwwwwwwwwly...


:D
 

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A link to the chart would be great but I honestly don't think Pro Football Talk is all that.
 

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I do not see it happening still. We need all the draft picks we can get.
 

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big dog cowboy;2025341 said:
A link to the chart would be great but I honestly don't think Pro Football Talk is all that.
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/04/new-draft-trade-chart-in-draft/
their's also this article on it



UNVEILING A NEW DRAFT TRADE CHART

Posted by Mike Florio on April 4, 2008, 2:48 p.m.
For those of you who have managed to stay awake through some of the less intriguing stuff that gives us a little street cred in the football bidness, here’s one that will be sure to put you to sleep.
We’re unveiling today our initial proposal for a new draft trade chart.
The current version, which can be inspected right here, was developed in the 1990s. But the skyrocketing of rookie contracts paid to the guys at the top of round one have rendered the current chart obsolete.
Under the current chart, the No. 1 overall pick is worth 3,000 points. The value drops by 400 points per pick over the next three selections. Then, the drop is 100 per pick for the next four, 50 per pick for the next ten selections, 25 per pick for a few choices, then 20 for several picks, and then finally ten per pick at the bottom of round one and into round two.
So if the Dallas Cowboys were to package the No. 22 and No. 28 overall picks in an effort to move up for a crack at Arkansas running back Darren McFadden, the two first-rounders would be worth 1,440 points, enough to move up only to No. 8. To get to No. 1, the Cowboys would need another 1,560 points.
Under the new chart, the No. 1 overall pick is worth 1,000 points. The biggest drop in the round (100 points) occurs between picks number 16 and 17, since the maximum length of the rookie deal as of the seventeenth pick is five years. For the first sixteen selections, the maximum duration is six.
There’s an even bigger dip from the bottom of round one to the top of round two, since the maximum contract length beginning with round two is four years.
The value doesn’t change at all from the bottom of round two to the top of round three, because the new draft format gives the team with the first pick in round three much more time to contemplate the pick. Starting this year, only the first round and second round will be selected on Saturday. On Sunday morning, the third round begins.
We’re not quite sure how the current trade chart became gospel, but the thing is now outdated. We plan to possibly tweak the new numbers based on input from league insiders and readers. For now, however, we think that the proposed chart is a huge upgrade over the version that has been in place, but only because of the changes in the dynamics of paying players at the top of round one.
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Interesting. I'd like to see something a little more official pointing out that the draft spots values have fallen that much but that is very interesting.

Either way it's still contingent on the idea that Jerry is going to give up 2 first rounders for one player, again, and I doubt you're going to see that.
 
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Teams looking to trade down will have to ask for less, nobody will be willing to forfit picks in 2009.
 

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BraveHeartFan;2025382 said:
Interesting. I'd like to see something a little more official pointing out that the draft spots values have fallen that much but that is very interesting.

Either way it's still contingent on the idea that Jerry is going to give up 2 first rounders for one player, again, and I doubt you're going to see that.
I don't think he has a problem with giving up two first only. But if he has certain plans to get a wr with one of those picks it could keep him from going that route. Thats where next years first sounds good if the raiders were interested.
 

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stasheroo;2025274 said:
Not sure if this deserves its' own post, but if not the mods can do what they see fit:

Many feel that the current trade chart is out of date and obsolete given the cost factor of a high draft pick.

And Pro Football Talk has done something about it.

They've created their own new and updated version.

And for those in the 'two #1's for McFadden bandwagon', under the terms of the 'new chart', those picks would be enough to move up to the #4 overall pick!

Their value for pick #4 is 900 points. Their values of pick #22 is 510 and pick #28 is 430 for a total of 940 points.

Now all you guys have to do is get the 'new chart' to Al Davis in Oakland!
Way to give the McFaddeneers hope, Stash! I still say investing all of that coinage into one position (if you add in MB3's "pending" deal) isn't a wise move...unless of course they DON'T re-sign Barber and let him go next season :eek: :mad: (better not happen unless DMac sets the world on fire)!
 

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Well that's that. We might as well go ahead and buy our Dallas McFadden jerseys right now. :D
 

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BehindEnemyLinez;2025403 said:
Way to give the McFaddeneers hope, Stash! I still say investing all of that coinage into one position (if you add in MB3's "pending" deal) isn't a wise move...unless of course they DON'T re-sign Barber and let him go next season :eek: :mad: (better not happen unless DMac sets the world on fire)!

Sorry, but I've been kinda rough on the 'Rampage Campaign' and I figured I would post this just for them.

And I was thinking that another factor in this move could be Marion Barber and Rosenhaus' asking price on a long-term deal. If the Cowboys felt the price was too high, it could influence a move for McFadden......
 

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BTW, people keep saying 2 picks for a player when the deal would be 2 lower picks for a higher pick. Giving up 2 lesser players for a star should be seen as a good thing, if we can make it happen. Of course, we always think we can hit it big late, guess thats why lottery tickets sell.

My bet is the teams lower in the draft would love this chart, and the teams high in the draft would hate it......just a hunch.
 
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