Prediction some fans won't like

[Chuck 54]

This is as much a philosophy of the Cowboys post as it is about the draft.

Prediction: all RBs will still be available when Cowboys are up at #27.

Gurley isn't just coming off the injury; he's missed time due to injuries throughout his career. Availability is a legitimate question with him. Gordon and Gurley both have significant deficiencies in pass protection according to all reports, and contrary to those who rank players for the draft, teams still don't see the need to select RBs in round 1, and especially won't see the need when the position is deep.

Prediction: Cowboys will still draft defense at 27 or trade down. They will not draft any RB in round 1. Letting Murray walk is as much about philosophy as money. You don't improve your football team by letting the NFL's rushing champ walk and then using that first round pick to replace him. That does not improve the team at all. That first round pick will be used to improve a position over last year.

Fans won't be happy, but Cowboys are determined to improve defense above all else.

I'm also starting to think CB will NOT be the selection at 27.

27. DE--LB--DT (if Brown is there) or trade down.
Next 3 selections--CB, WR, RB in Any order.

In a trade down, I like Grady Jarrett, DT Clemson--Mario Edwards, DE Florida St.--Stephon Anthony, LB Clemson, and I could see converting #27 into two of these or similar players before looking at CB or RB.

 

[Alexander]

Prediction: Cowboys will still draft defense at 27 or trade down. They will not draft any RB in round 1. Letting Murray walk is as much about philosophy as money. You don't improve your football team by letting the NFL's rushing champ walk and then using that first round pick to replace him. That does not improve the team at all. That first round pick will be used to improve a position over last year..

You may be correct that they will not turn right around and spend the first on a RB, but this idea that it "does not improve the team at all" is wrong.

When you take a step backwards, which letting Murray go did, you are improving the team by replacing that lost piece immediately with quality or even a better player, which Gurley or even Gordon might be.

This is a worse team offensively, as it stands, without a quality starting tailback. And yes, I am counting the fact they added McFadden.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

This is as much a philosophy of the Cowboys post as it is about the draft.

Prediction: all RBs will still be available when Cowboys are up at #27.

Gurley isn't just coming off the injury; he's missed time due to injuries throughout his career. Availability is a legitimate question with him. Gordon and Gurley both have significant deficiencies in pass protection according to all reports, and contrary to those who rank players for the draft, teams still don't see the need to select RBs in round 1, and especially won't see the need when the position is deep.

Prediction: Cowboys will still draft defense at 27 or trade down. They will not draft any RB in round 1. Letting Murray walk is as much about philosophy as money. You don't improve your football team by letting the NFL's rushing champ walk and then using that first round pick to replace him. That does not improve the team at all. That first round pick will be used to improve a position over last year.

Fans won't be happy, but Cowboys are determined to improve defense above all else.

I'm also starting to think CB will NOT be the selection at 27.

27. DE--LB--DT (if Brown is there) or trade down.
Next 3 selections--CB, WR, RB in Any order.

In a trade down, I like Grady Jarrett, DT Clemson--Mario Edwards, DE Florida St.--Stephon Anthony, LB Clemson, and I could see converting #27 into two of these or similar players before looking at CB or RB.

I agree with all of this.

I think DMF had done surprise for us!

 

[rynochop]

Just take Gurley or best defensive player available, what a weak draft class overall

 

[Alexander]

Just take Gurley or best defensive player available, what a weak draft class overall

True, not happy with the overall talent when the player you pick in the 20s is not a lot different than someone who could go in the 50s.

Having three high profile players like Gregory, Ray and Collins all pop up with issues at the last leg of the process does not help at all.

 

[Chuck 54]

You may be correct that they will not turn right around and spend the first on a RB, but this idea that it "does not improve the team at all" is wrong.

When you take a step backwards, which letting Murray go did, you are improving the team by replacing that lost piece immediately with quality or even a better player, which Gurley or even Gordon might be.

This is a worse team offensively, as it stands, without a quality starting tailback. And yes, I am counting the fact they added McFadden.

I should have been more clear. I know it might improve the team from its current roster if the RB pans out. I meant it doesn't improve the team from last season because your golden ticket (#1) just replaces what you lost.....and in this case, a player you allowed to leave that you could have kept if you thought it critical. If you improve the team on defense, you may have a better overall team without a first round RB.

 

[canters]

I think you are wise sir. I agree that RB is a third or fourth round option. I think a LB is the pick at 27 or slightly lower. Bernardrick from Mississippi or Kendrick from UCLA. Both will be at 32 or maybe in the second.

 

[EST_1986]

If Gurley is there, Gurley is a Cowboy

 

[Bungarian]

No way Gurley is still there at 27

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

True, not happy with the overall talent when the player you pick in the 20s is not a lot different than someone who could go in the 50s.

Having three high profile players like Gregory, Ray and Collins all pop up with issues at the last leg of the process does not help at all.

Just take Gurley or best defensive player available, what a weak draft class overall

I'm curious. You hear "weak draft class" every do many years... BEFORE the draft of course.

Question: was it eventually confirmed years later or did someone great come out of those drafts? Did more than one very good to great player come out of those drafts?

 

[ternewt24]

This is as much a philosophy of the Cowboys post as it is about the draft.

Prediction: all RBs will still be available when Cowboys are up at #27.

Gurley isn't just coming off the injury; he's missed time due to injuries throughout his career. Availability is a legitimate question with him. Gordon and Gurley both have significant deficiencies in pass protection according to all reports, and contrary to those who rank players for the draft, teams still don't see the need to select RBs in round 1, and especially won't see the need when the position is deep.

Prediction: Cowboys will still draft defense at 27 or trade down. They will not draft any RB in round 1. Letting Murray walk is as much about philosophy as money. You don't improve your football team by letting the NFL's rushing champ walk and then using that first round pick to replace him. That does not improve the team at all. That first round pick will be used to improve a position over last year.

Fans won't be happy, but Cowboys are determined to improve defense above all else.

I'm also starting to think CB will NOT be the selection at 27.

27. DE--LB--DT (if Brown is there) or trade down.
Next 3 selections--CB, WR, RB in Any order.

In a trade down, I like Grady Jarrett, DT Clemson--Mario Edwards, DE Florida St.--Stephon Anthony, LB Clemson, and I could see converting #27 into two of these or similar players before looking at CB or RB.

I think you are correct. This has been my thinking and prediction as well. And I really don't know if we will take a rb till real late in the draft. The value of the RB has dropped a lot over the last few years. I think teams are realizeing this and your going to see less taken in the first couple rounds.

 

[Alexander]

Question: was it eventually confirmed years later or did someone great come out of those drafts? Did more than one very good to great player come out of those drafts?

2009 was described that way before the draft and it is playing out that way even now.

All you have to do is just look at the first round and it is horrific.

Only Stafford, Clay Matthews, Maclin, Alex Mack and Raji have been above average.

Busts - Jason Smith, Aaron Curry, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Aaron Maybin, Larry English, Josh Freeman, Peria Jerry, Beanie Wells

Disappointments - Tyson Jackson, Mark Sanchez, Andre Smith, Michael Crabtree, Robert Ayers, Michael Oher, Donald Brown, Kenny Britt

This was also the draft where Dallas had the brilliant decision to draft special team players out of a bad draft.

To be clear though, this draft is not close to being that bad.

 

[KalEl]

I agree with all of this.

I think DMF had done surprise for us!

Who's DMF? Dumb Mother #$&%$^? Or do you mean DMC as in Darren McFadden?

 

[Jenky]

This is as much a philosophy of the Cowboys post as it is about the draft.

Prediction: all RBs will still be available when Cowboys are up at #27.

Gurley isn't just coming off the injury; he's missed time due to injuries throughout his career. Availability is a legitimate question with him. Gordon and Gurley both have significant deficiencies in pass protection according to all reports, and contrary to those who rank players for the draft, teams still don't see the need to select RBs in round 1, and especially won't see the need when the position is deep.

Prediction: Cowboys will still draft defense at 27 or trade down. They will not draft any RB in round 1. Letting Murray walk is as much about philosophy as money. You don't improve your football team by letting the NFL's rushing champ walk and then using that first round pick to replace him. That does not improve the team at all. That first round pick will be used to improve a position over last year.

Fans won't be happy, but Cowboys are determined to improve defense above all else.

I'm also starting to think CB will NOT be the selection at 27.

27. DE--LB--DT (if Brown is there) or trade down.
Next 3 selections--CB, WR, RB in Any order.

In a trade down, I like Grady Jarrett, DT Clemson--Mario Edwards, DE Florida St.--Stephon Anthony, LB Clemson, and I could see converting #27 into two of these or similar players before looking at CB or RB.

At #27, Gurley would be the BPA, if he's there. Yes, I would be upset.

He's not only the BPA, he's a NEED.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I should have been more clear. I know it might improve the team from its current roster if the RB pans out. I meant it doesn't improve the team from last season because your golden ticket (#1) just replaces what you lost.....and in this case, a player you allowed to leave that you could have kept if you thought it critical. If you improve the team on defense, you may have a better overall team without a first round RB.

I understood your original post as this. I agree.

Replacing Murray is a priority but improving the talent overall is of greater importance.

I do believe, though, that Dallas will address the running back position in the first three rounds. I also believe that if the two best RBs (Girly and Flash Gordon) are available at 27, Dallas will take one of them unless another team offers an incredible trade option.

 

[NorthwestDallas40]

I should have been more clear. I know it might improve the team from its current roster if the RB pans out. I meant it doesn't improve the team from last season because your golden ticket (#1) just replaces what you lost.....and in this case, a player you allowed to leave that you could have kept if you thought it critical. If you improve the team on defense, you may have a better overall team without a first round RB.

Don't agree with your reasoning. You improve your team by replacing Murray with a RB of comparable quality in Round 1 because you save $7 million a year at the position without a dropoff. You can then use that extra money on free agents. I don't agree with you that there has been any philosophy shift. It's simply a matter of not overpaying at that position. But we still need a talented bellcow back in order to make this offense run as well as last year. Will be a big mistake not to take a RB in first two rounds IMO.

 

[locked&loaded]

na...Gurley wont be available. Cowboys want Gordon, may trade up for him.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I predict this thread will go to the draft zone.

 

[CATCH17]

No way Gurley is still there at 27

Wouldn't surprise me if he was.


A good team should be taking a guy like that.


I can't see these teams with holes all up and down their OL and DL skipping on those players and picking a RB.

Gurley should go to an established franchised and there isn't many of them picking before 20.

 

[LandryFan]

I should have been more clear. I know it might improve the team from its current roster if the RB pans out. I meant it doesn't improve the team from last season because your golden ticket (#1) just replaces what you lost.....and in this case, a player you allowed to leave that you could have kept if you thought it critical. If you improve the team on defense, you may have a better overall team without a first round RB.

The pick may just replace what you lost, but it would do so at about 1/10th the cost. The big bucks saved there can be used to help elsewhere. That's improvement, IMHO.