Prescott and Zeke lead in fumbles at their positions

rnr_honeybadger said:
Ok, now you got that off your chest, put your pants on and go back to your room.
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Make an argument defending fumbles outside of “Well not all are lost” - which is basically just a scramble drill when it is already on the ground and it a valid defense for the person fumbling.

No excuse for a “MVP” supposed candidate on this forum to fumble that much.
 
mattjames2010 said:
Dak has 12 fumbles
Zeke has 6 fumbles (tied with Cohen)

Fumbles come back to bite you in the playoffs - remember 2014 Packers game?

No excuse, hold onto the dang ball! 18 fumbles between our “Good QB” and “MVP RB”
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How many of them are lost fumbles? I think Dak is 6... Zeke 2?
 
Don't understand whats going on with Zeke and the fumbles. I think he fumbled once in his college career.

He needs to tighten that up!
 
Boyz981 said:
How many of them are lost fumbles? I think Dak is 6... Zeke 2?
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That’s a scramble drill once it’s on the ground and not exactly an excuse for the fumbler.

We get lucky they aren’t lost and they have a chance to go to the opposing teams favor each time it’s on the ground.

You don’t win playoff games fumbling like this. Zeke is a top 5 pick who isn’t scoring enough to excuse his fumbling issues and Prescott has about as much pocket awareness of a dead and blind man.
 
mattjames2010 said:
Make an argument defending fumbles outside of “Well not all are lost” - which is basically just a scramble drill when it is already on the ground and it a valid defense for the person fumbling.

No excuse for a “MVP” supposed candidate on this forum to fumble that much.
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What exactly would you like us to do? Flog Elliot? Put Dak on a spit and roast him? Who the hell is excusing the fumbling? It happens, if you didn't notice the QB on the other team fumbled twice yesterday and both of them led to TD's.
 
rnr_honeybadger said:
What exactly would you like us to do? Flog Elliot? Put Dak on a spit and roast him? Who the hell is excusing the fumbling? It happens, if you didn't notice the QB on the other team fumbled twice yesterday and both of them led to TD's.
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I would like them to get the criticism they deserve for putting the offense in a bad position. Neither Elliott or Prescott score enough to justify putting the ball on the ground 18 times collectively

And your argument is not a good one! The more you fumble the more chances you have of give the other team a chance to scoop and score!

THIS OFFENSE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO SURVIVE THAT MANY FUMBLES!

This isn’t hard to grasp.
 
It is concerning because the Seahawks beat us the last two games because of turnovers. Dak has not played well at all against their defense. Zeke fumbled on a key drive. We cannot turn the ball over.
 
mattjames2010 said:
I would like them to get the criticism they deserve for putting the offense in a bad position. Neither Elliott or Prescott score enough to justify putting the ball on the ground 18 times collectively

And your argument is not a good one! The more you fumble the more chances you have of give the other team a chance to scoop and score!

THIS OFFENSE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO SURVIVE THAT MANY FUMBLES!

This isn’t hard to grasp.
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Bad bad Prescott and Zeke. See what you've done to Matt? You made him spill his nachos and queso all over himself. Bad Prescott and Zeke.
 
mattjames2010 said:
I would like them to get the criticism they deserve for putting the offense in a bad position. Neither Elliott or Prescott score enough to justify putting the ball on the ground 18 times collectively

And your argument is not a good one! The more you fumble the more chances you have of give the other team a chance to scoop and score!

THIS OFFENSE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO SURVIVE THAT MANY FUMBLES!

This isn’t hard to grasp.
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Haha...
So let me get this right...you are mad at Zeke and Dak and you are mad at other fans for not being mad at them and crying about it to other fans.....all of this on Christmas Eve.

And then the attempted trolling of fans who think Zeke deserves some MVP mention with his rushing title and 80 catches.

On the eve of Christmas..

This place has become toxic...are you making it better or worse.

Happy Holiday!!!
 
rnr_honeybadger said:
Ok, now you got that off your chest, put your pants on and go back to your room.
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Yeah I don't know about all this pro Dak, anti dak, pro zeke, anti Zeke stuff, or whether this disqualifies them as an mvp or a good player.

I do know that the bottom line is fumbles are gonna cost you games. Ask Tampa Bay. Zeke and Dak do need to do a better job of securing the football and there's just no more to it.

I'd argue that fumbling once per season still means you gotta do a better job of securing the football, let alone over 5 times.
 
DasSchnitzel said:
Yeah I don't know about all this pro Dak, anti dak, pro zeke, anti Zeke stuff, or whether this disqualifies them as an mvp or a good player.

I do know that the bottom line is fumbles are gonna cost you games. Ask Tampa Bay. Zeke and Dak do need to do a better job of securing the football and there's just no more to it.

I'd argue that fumbling once per season still means you gotta do a better job of securing the football, let alone over 5 times.
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You think Zeke and Dak don't know this? You think the coaches don't know this? You think that you and Matt are the only ones who know this?
 
mattjames2010 said:
Dak has 12 fumbles
Zeke has 6 fumbles (tied with Cohen)

Fumbles come back to bite you in the playoffs - remember 2014 Packers game?

No excuse, hold onto the dang ball! 18 fumbles between our “Good QB” and “MVP RB”
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Soft practices lead to fumbles! We had a fumbling issue one preseason, I had my RB coach start running the three man weave with a football on a dirt patch. Did wonders. We only had 4 TOs in our first 12 games.....too bad we had 5 in our last game! Lol
 
superonyx said:
Haha...
So let me get this right...you are mad at Zeke and Dak and you are mad at other fans for not being mad at them and crying about it to other fans.....all of this on Christmas Eve.

And then the attempted trolling of fans who think Zeke deserves some MVP mention with his rushing title and 80 catches.

On the eve of Christmas..

This place has become toxic...are you making it better or worse.

Happy Holiday!!!
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MVP can score, MVPs don’t lead the league in fumbkes while not putting up points.

Zeke is no MVP and Dak certainly is not. Our MVP is this defense
 
Also note that Zeke has 381 combined rushes and receptions and his six fumbles seem a little less significant.

As for Dak, well, his problems with ball security have been well documented. I'm a Prescott supporter, but he needs to clean that up.
 
DasSchnitzel said:
Yeah I don't know about all this pro Dak, anti dak, pro zeke, anti Zeke stuff, or whether this disqualifies them as an mvp or a good player.

I do know that the bottom line is fumbles are gonna cost you games. Ask Tampa Bay. Zeke and Dak do need to do a better job of securing the football and there's just no more to it.

I'd argue that fumbling once per season still means you gotta do a better job of securing the football, let alone over 5 times.
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In nearly every post-season run, I can almost promise you the team that wins the Super Bowl gets there because the opposing team coughed up ball in he worst possible moment which changed the momentum.

The biggest problem is going to be if we face a team that is high when forcing turnovers - that will be our worst possible matchup.

Seahawks pretty much already beat us this way once this season and our fumbling problems haven’t been fixed.
 
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