Prescott and Zeke lead in fumbles at their positions

Let’s cut him
And emmitt is the all time rushing leader because he had a better oline

Smith is a legend during a time when the league had much better defenses, dopey

Zeke is just another RB that gets far too many carries every season and glorified because of it. Should be traded
 
Anybody in the NFL with more touches than Zeke?

A more fair evaluation would be touches per fumble.

Zeke fumbles every 63.5 touches. James Connor of the Steelers every 63.25 touches, for example.

Alfred Morris and Mark Ingram touched the ball far less times per fumble.

Worried about QB turnovers are we? There are two ways a QB can turn the ball over. Let's add INT's together with fumbles, shall we?

After all, what is the difference, besides the fact that fumbles don't always translate to turnovers?

The point is now mute. Far more other players, including many playoff bound, turn the ball over more than our two guys.
 
Anybody in the NFL with more touches than Zeke?

A more fair evaluation would be touches per fumble.

Zeke fumbles every 63.5 touches. James Connor of the Steelers every 63.25 touches, for example.

Alfred Morris and Mark Ingram touched the ball far less times per fumble.

Worried about QB turnovers are we? There are two ways a QB can turn the ball over. Let's add INT's together with fumbles, shall we?

After all, what is the difference, besides the fact that fumbles don't always translate to turnovers?

The point is now mute. Far more other players, including many playoff bound, turn the ball over more than our two guys.

I already adjusted the numbers - having 2-3 players ahead of him doesn’t absolve Zeke’s fumble problem.

Try again.
 
I don’t consider anyone who roots for a loss a fan.

I really don’t care about the sperg who got banned on another board for not keeping his emotions in check playing gatekeeper on what fandom is.

You’re a nerd, dude.
 
I really don’t care about the sperg who got banned on another board for not keeping his emotions in check playing gatekeeper on what fandom is.

You’re a nerd, dude.

And you are a pathetic little man who is nitpicking over the best back in the league and rooting for a loss :facepalm:
 
You can “say it again”, they didn’t “come and go” for Adrian Peterson or most other “Elite” RBs

They do though.

Look at Adrian Peterson, and let's focus on his prime from 2007-2015. If you're just looking at the box score it looks good, double digit TDs every year, but the amount of touches it took him to get there swung greatly. I'm just going to put the table in a spoiler for readability.

2007 - 13 TDs on 257 touches - 19.77 touches / score

2008 - 10 TDs on 384 touches - 38.4 touches / score

2009 - 18 TDs on 357 touches - 19.83 touches / score

2010 - 13 TDs on 319 touches - 24.54 touches / score

2011 - 13 TDs on 226 touches - 17.38 touches / score

2012 - 13 TDs on 388 touches - 29.85 carries / score

2013 - 11 TDs on 308 touches - 28.0 carries / score

2014 - suspended, writeoff

2015 - 11 TDs on 357 touches - 32.45 carries / score

There's not really a pattern to it. Sometimes he had efficient years, sometimes he had slow years. His YPC stayed virtually the same every season: 4.4-4.8 every year from 2008-2015, plus his epic 6.0 YPC 2000 yard campaign. So it was the same dude running the ball in basically the same offense, but his scoring rate just randomly came and went. Even in his breakaway-heavy 2012 freakout, he actually one of his worst years scoring wise.

So for the third time: TDs are a high variance stat. They really don't depend on a player's talent, they're a small sample of touches dependent more on luck and offensive opportunity. As long as a RB keeps getting chances in the red zone, the odds will and eventually do swing the other way.

"But you're missing the point! AP had double digit TDs every season!"

Zeke's got 9 TDs right now, and he's got a good shot at making double digit TDs himself if he plays vs the Giants this week, so I don't want to hear that. It's not going to come on an efficient year, but a lot of Peterson's scoring didn't come on efficient years either.

This is my last post in the thread, so I'll just sum it up again. Have patience. The touchdowns will come. The odds will get even.
 
They do though.

Look at Adrian Peterson, and let's focus on his prime from 2007-2015. If you're just looking at the box score it looks good, double digit TDs every year, but the amount of touches it took him to get there swung greatly. I'm just going to put the table in a spoiler for readability.

2007 - 13 TDs on 257 touches - 19.77 touches / score

2008 - 10 TDs on 384 touches - 38.4 touches / score

2009 - 18 TDs on 357 touches - 19.83 touches / score

2010 - 13 TDs on 319 touches - 24.54 touches / score

2011 - 13 TDs on 226 touches - 17.38 touches / score

2012 - 13 TDs on 388 touches - 29.85 carries / score

2013 - 11 TDs on 308 touches - 28.0 carries / score

2014 - suspended, writeoff

2015 - 11 TDs on 357 touches - 32.45 carries / score

There's not really a pattern to it. Sometimes he had efficient years, sometimes he had slow years. His YPC stayed virtually the same every season: 4.4-4.8 every year from 2008-2015, plus his epic 6.0 YPC 2000 yard campaign. So it was the same dude running the ball in basically the same offense, but his scoring rate just randomly came and went. Even in his breakaway-heavy 2012 freakout, he actually one of his worst years scoring wise.

So for the third time: TDs are a high variance stat. They really don't depend on a player's talent, they're a small sample of touches dependent more on luck and offensive opportunity. As long as a RB keeps getting chances in the red zone, the odds will and eventually do swing the other way.

"But you're missing the point! AP had double digit TDs every season!"

Zeke's got 9 TDs right now, and he's got a good shot at making double digit TDs himself if he plays vs the Giants this week, so I don't want to hear that. It's not going to come on an efficient year, but a lot of Peterson's scoring didn't come on efficient years either.

This is my last post in the thread, so I'll just sum it up again. Have patience. The touchdowns will come. The odds will get even.

What the hell are you even on about? He, no matter what, consistently got double digit TDs on the ground. If anything is spuratic with scoring, it’s receiving for RBs.

Whether Peterson was getting under 300 carries or 300+ he was getting 10+ TDs.

Zeke has 300+ this year on the ground and couldn’t get double digit TDs.

238 touches - 12 TDs
283 touches - 12 TDs
208 touches - 12 TDs
279 touches - 10 TDs

Give me an absolute break. Zeke got enough touches to get over 10 TDs on the ground. No excuses
 
And you are a pathetic little man who is nitpicking over the best back in the league and rooting for a loss :facepalm:

That’s not “nitpicking”, genius

A top 5 pick getting 300+ carries and not tipping double digit TDs is a valid criticism

A top 5 pick leading the league in fumbles at his position, not nitpicking (even adjusting, it’s still high)

Pointing out his rushing title comes from volume rather than actual weekly production is not a nitpick.
 
So youre not a cowboys fan.

Another gatekeeper for what “fandom” is

I want this team to actually win it all - it’s not happening with Garrett. Do you just cheer for failure?

Again, we are the only fandom that supports mediocrity this much.
 
It only matters how much they fumble going forward, not how many they had up to this point.

Ask Eli Manning what a mini streak of good play will get you. It got him two rings.
 
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It only matters how much they fumble going forward, not how many they had up to this point.

Ask Eli Manning what a mini streak of good play will get you. It got him two rings.

Good point. Emmitt Smith had 19 fumbles during his first 3 years in the NFL. I'm sure the OP would have cut Smith had he been the GM. Especially since Smith was only averaging 4.53 yards per touch after 3 seasons(5034 yards from scrimmage). Elliott averages 5.23 yards per touch(5247 yards from scrimmage) through almost 3 seasons. Elliott is complete trash and should be dealt. I don't know why Jimmy Johnson kept Smith. The smart move obviously would have been to move on.
 
Another gatekeeper for what “fandom” is

I want this team to actually win it all - it’s not happening with Garrett. Do you just cheer for failure?

Again, we are the only fandom that supports mediocrity this much.
So if we win it all this season will you still be upset?
I cheer for them no matter what. Not for their demise lol
We are the only team? So teams that havent won a sb should have no fans at all based on your thoughts.
 

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