Prescott Is Just 2 INTs Away From Matching His Career High For A Season

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He is also 2 INTs away from leading the NFL in INTS this season.

He has missed 5 games.

Yeah but in fairness, only 1, maybe at the most 2 of the INT's is his fault.
All the others were all the result of poor scheme, horrible route running, bad WR play, awful O line blocking, or some combination of these factors.

What I can tell you is, if it wasn't for everyone else on the team dragging Dak down, he would right now be having the single best season that any QB has ever had, in the history of the NFL.

Damn shame Kellen Moore, our terrible O Line, and awful receivers are sabotaging his greatness. It's difficult to watch, week in and week out.
 

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Wow. I finally just figured you out.

You don’t really understand that football is a team game. That’s why you constantly are looking to blame one person for this teams shortcomings.

I don’t decide on how stats are interpreted. We have already had this argument and agreed that GWD is a skewed statistic because of the points you just raised. I agreed with you. Or do you not remember?
I'm sure you know this but he's attempting to troll you. Its a poor attempt but he's at least trying.
 

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It's hard to keep track of all the flip flopping you do.

In the game thread you'll say "Dak's play is hard to defend" then a day later you'll call anyone that doesn't defend Dak's play a "troll".

Make up your mind.
It is hard to defend his play however I’m not going to criticize him for things that aren’t in his control. If he makes a bad decision and a bad read or has an errant throw (the first pick in the Jax game) I will call it out. If he throws a ball perfectly and it hits the receiver in the hands/chest and it’s bounced in the air and intercepted I’m not going to hold him accountable. His job was done. It’s now on the WR to do his.

I don’t understand why this is so hard for you to understand. It’s not flip flopping. It’s logic. I don’t blame a chef if the waiter takes too long to bring me my food because they are scrolling Instagram instead of doing their job. I blame the person at fault.
 

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What was posted is a statistical reality and a subject that many are discussing as Dak's INT's are in fact alarming, especially given he has missed 5 games this season and near a career high. Is that trolling or is that posting concerns?

Said it before and will say it again.
Statistics are sometime valid when discussing Dak's play, and sometimes are not valid for discussion.

this, unfortunately, appears to be one of those times when statistics are not a valid part of the discussion.
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It is hard to defend his play however I’m not going to criticize him for things that aren’t in his control. If he makes a bad decision and a bad read or has an errant throw (the first pick in the Jax game) I will call it out. If he throws a ball perfectly and it hits the receiver in the hands/chest and it’s bounced in the air and intercepted I’m not going to hold him accountable. His job was done. It’s now on the WR to do his.

I don’t understand why this is so hard for you to understand. It’s not flip flopping. It’s logic. I don’t blame a chef if the waiter takes too long to bring me my food because they are scrolling Instagram instead of doing their job. I blame the person at fault.
How many INTS this season besides the Noah Brown one hit the WR in the chest/hands and bounced in the air for an INT?

It seems some of ya'll are using that one INT to absolve Dak from the other 10 INTs he's thrown.
 

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How many INTS this season besides the Noah Brown one hit the WR in the chest/hands and bounced in the air for an INT?

It seems some of ya'll are using that one INT to absolve Dak from the other 10 INTs he's thrown.
5. And that’s not including the lamb running wrong route stuff either because Dak could have and should have gone somewhere else with the ball. But this season. 5 passes that were catchable balls were batted into the air for a INT by the WR.

And the fact you don’t know that. Is why I said this thread is disingenuous in the first place and why I said you were trolling. Posting stat totals with no context.
 

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There's no context with this thread. It's all based on emotion, which I usually stay away from. But, I will digress today.

Cowboys:
Last in WR separation yards
Last in pass block win rate.

Your QB is the most pressured in the league and will have more guaranteed contested throws with our WR core and have INTs with these metrics yet we still have had chances to win games. Hmmmm...maybe the OC should create a more spread receiver scheme and get our receivers open more to combat this? Like most teams do.

But alas, KM will rely on Dak to make highly contested throws, thus more INTs. Yet, with a worse QB....we would not be 10-4. I don't do the blame game......game lol. But it's the Offensive Coordinators job to create schemes to help his team succeed, but also to make it easier on the QB. Our offense succeeds, but it is not easy on the QB. KM doesn't do this, you guys should focus on him more than you do. Dak is fine, those of you who thinks he isn't are entitled to your opinions but I have been around football to long to actually understand schemes, concepts and football metrics. I am not the biggest fan of Kellen but I don't hate him. Let's give our QB a little slack for having to deal with him.
 

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5. And that’s not including the lamb running wrong route stuff either because Dak could have and should have gone somewhere else with the ball. But this season. 5 passes that were catchable balls were batted into the air for a INT by the WR.

And the fact you don’t know that. Is why I said this thread is disingenuous in the first place and why I said you were trolling. Posting stat totals with no context.
I need video proof of all 5 of these passes that hit the WR in the chest/hands and bounced in the air for INTS.

If you provide that evidence I'll gladly say I am wrong.
 

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I also find it funny the guy is ignoring that 5 of those interceptions hit the WRs in the hands. I mean what do you want Dak to do? Catch the ball too? Jesus. When he makes a bad read and throws a duck right to the defender. Yeah by all means pile on. Using his total number of INTs to throw shade when you darn well know he isnt responsible for every single one is disingenuous and trollish behaviour.
You do know that those type of things happen to other qbs right?


Or is it only here where most/all INTs arent on the QB?
 

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Interceptions are never good but it's obvious this thread is more about OP personal Dak attack than anything else. Why.......we have still won 10 games, a top 3 offense, and the top 3 in average points per game. Again, you are always concerned with interceptions but I'm more concerned with Dak's confidence than the number of picks he's thrown..........as mentioned, we are still a top 5 offense.
We might have that record...sure. But we're a mortally wounded team.....that can;t manage to beat some of the worst teams in the league. Or BARELY squeak by.

"Back in the day" :), we used to say "this time of year is when you play strong and actually start your playoff run with tight football.

Now we're left with making excuses "but but...we have a record".

This kind of play we're doing now ain;t gonna fly. We're pretty lucky the rest of the NFC mostly sucks.
 

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Yeah but in fairness, only 1, maybe at the most 2 of the INT's is his fault.
All the others were all the result of poor scheme, horrible route running, bad WR play, awful O line blocking, or some combination of these factors.

What I can tell you is, if it wasn't for everyone else on the team dragging Dak down, he would right now be having the single best season that any QB has ever had, in the history of the NFL.

Damn shame Kellen Moore, our terrible O Line, and awful receivers are sabotaging his greatness. It's difficult to watch, week in and week out.
you serious?

Oh wait...I need to check my sarcasm meter. Tap tap tap...there it goes!
 

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You do know that those type of things happen to other qbs right?


Or is it only here where most/all INTs arent on the QB?
No. Not at all. It happens to everyone. Last year mahomes was being ripped on for his INTs as well and his receivers were playing volleyball instead of football with perfect passes. I’m simply bringing up in this thread because this thread is about Dak and his interceptions.
 

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I need video proof of all 5 of these passes that hit the WR in the chest/hands and bounced in the air for INTS.

If you provide that evidence I'll gladly say I am wrong.
I’m not doing research for you to prove myself right lol. If you wanted to make an accurate post you would have done it yourself. Instead you chose this route. If you watched the games with an unbiased eye instead you would have seen them for yourself. And I’m not saying Dak is at no fault for his INT total because he is making some very bad decisions with the ball. That first pick in the jags game was brutal and he should have just taken the sack. I don’t care if his arm was hit. As a QB that’s your job to know to go down. It was a stupid decision.
 

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Wow. I finally just figured you out.

You don’t really understand that football is a team game. That’s why you constantly are looking to blame one person for this teams shortcomings.

I don’t decide on how stats are interpreted. We have already had this argument and agreed that GWD is a skewed statistic because of the points you just raised. I agreed with you. Or do you not remember?
It's a team game but the QB gets credit and blame. Always has always will.'

QB's get credit for 4th qtr comebacks and game winning drives. Biadaz doesn't. Zeke doesn't. Gallup doesn't. The Smith boys don't.

Why is that?
 

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No. Not at all. It happens to everyone. Last year mahomes was being ripped on for his INTs as well and his receivers were playing volleyball instead of football with perfect passes. I’m simply bringing up in this thread because this thread is about Dak and his interceptions.
Im unsure about 5 but I can think of at least 3 that have been discussed at nauseum where the receivers ran wrong route. 2 from CeeDee and another with TEs. these interceptions are slightly concerning but i like the agression. mostly its just a talking point for the same group of people who constantly find narratives to discredit the QB of their own team.
 

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As I said, the purpose of the thread has little to do with the general football concept/discussion. It's nothing more than a personal attack against Dak. Never mind the D gave up 500+ yards, a 27-10 half-time lead, Dak is playing with basically one WR ( Lamb and TE ) but we still have won 10 games ( yes, Coop won 4 ), and have top 3 offenses in half dozen team stats ( Coop and Dak ). But you wanna dial in he's just two inceptions away from his career high w/o an ounce of context........So what now.
7 points off a turnover he threw in Dallas territory. That one was on him. The second, on Brown. He hardly has just Lamb and Schultz. He also has Hendershot, Ferguson, Elliott, Pollard, Brown and Gallup caught his share against Indy. He is not without weapons. That's straight bunk...otherwise they certainly would NOT have a putative top 3 offense...even though they are only 15th in DVOA offense...where last year they finished 6th (2nd in 2019).

The turnovers are a problem, even if only one per game is on him. He had only 4 INTS his entire rookie season. The pressure is on him like never before (courtesy of Cooper Rush) and Moore is not really helping him when he runs 3 verticals on a 3 and 10 leaving Prescott with no options underneath other than to run, throw it away, or take a sack. I've said this before. Dak and Kellen are NOT a good match...and Dak seems like a man who "only" does what he is told, which is likely one of the reasons why the "malcontent" Cooper had to go (which was a mistake that gets magnified as the season gets longer). Moore's route concepts seem to be forcing Prescott to throw into very tight windows. Couple that with receivers who can't get enough separation and then you have a real problem. You have to sometimes wonder if Moore is calling plays for his next coaching gig and not the team's success.

Jones and company screwed this up in the off season. They've been trying to recover from this gaffe since mid-season. Cooks, OBJ now Hilton, which makes you wonder just what the hell they saw in James Washington to begin with.

That said, Prescott has been playing at a high level overall, but the late game turnovers inside the 30 yd line will spell deep trouble in the playoffs. It's a pattern that he needs to break...at least the ones that he is responsible for. There are times to take risks and there are times where you should not. He still has that to learn it seems.
 

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I’m not doing research for you to prove myself right lol. If you wanted to make an accurate post you would have done it yourself. Instead you chose this route. If you watched the games with an unbiased eye instead you would have seen them for yourself. And I’m not saying Dak is at no fault for his INT total because he is making some very bad decisions with the ball. That first pick in the jags game was brutal and he should have just taken the sack. I don’t care if his arm was hit. As a QB that’s your job to know to go down. It was a stupid decision.
You're saying 5 INTS have hit receivers in the chest/hands and been picked off.

Can you show evidence of just 3 of them then? You don't even need to give me all 5.

I need to see these passes because I don't believe you.

Or tell me when they happened and I'll go find them myself.
 

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You're saying 5 INTS have hit receivers in the chest/hands and been picked off.

Can you show evidence of just 3 of them then? You don't even need to give me all 5.

I need to see these passes because I don't believe you.

Or tell me when they happened and I'll go find them myself.
Giants game 2nd pick Houston Game Noah Brown Pick Jacksonville Game pick 6.

There is 3.
 

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It's a team game but the QB gets credit and blame. Always has always will.'

QB's get credit for 4th qtr comebacks and game winning drives. Biadaz doesn't. Zeke doesn't. Gallup doesn't. The Smith boys don't.

Why is that?
I honestly have no answer. And I think it is very stupid as well. If we are at the 5 and a screen pass goes for a long TD. I dont like that Dak gets a GWD added to his resume.
 
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