Prescott weapons vs the rest of the NFC East

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How many "Dual threat" QBs have won the Super Bowl?

I strongly believe that the only reason "dual threat" QBs run so much is because they don't have what it takes to sit in the pocket and beat you with their arm (and brain) alone.
I love the pocket passer.
I hate runnings qbs, they do win as much as the traditional types.
 

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Lol, ok chief. If you feel the need to reply to something someone said that has absolutely nothing to do with the quote you used and replied to than have at it. Just an FYI, you could have made your point without using my qoute. Most normal people who engage in a discussion tend to only use something someone said when it’s relevant to their reply but I guess those are just my “rules”.

Pizza is better than hambugers.

I respectfully disagree. Hamburgers are better than pizza. Although pizza's good. Just not as good as hamburgers. I think you should do a poll.
 

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I respectfully disagree. Hamburgers are better than pizza. Although pizza's good. Just not as good as hamburgers. I think you should do a poll.
I’ll mull it over and tag you if I do. I’d like to feel out the site a little but you’re input is definitely noted and appreciated!
 

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Yup. This receiving corps could be really outstanding, and it could be really mediocre. The signs and talent are actually there to make it the best receiving corps we've had in years, but there is absolutely no way to tell for sure until play starts. Preseason games will be very interesting to watch this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Best we've had in years. Sorry K, this is mediocre at best think 2015 bad. Hurns best season was because Jacksonville was behind multiple scores and Bortles padded stats in unwinnable games. T-Will is T-Will, Beasley has always been overrated by Cowboys fans, and Gallup is a 3rd round wr in weak draft class. This looks early 2000s bad. Good thing is that next year there's legit good wrs in the draft.
 

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So other than Lee and Bailey, neither of which should have effected Dak’s performance, (which was the point of my original statement) you pointed out LT, LG, RT and RB.

I said my main concern for Daks success was the possible continued need for a top O line and RB which you claim there was “more to last season”. So I’m confused, either you misread my original post or you agree with me after insinuating you didn’t.

I understand what you’re saying for the entire downfall of the team as a whole but the quote of mine you referenced had nothing to do with the team as a whole, it had do to with Dak’s performance specifically. Clear as mud?

Maybe he just needed better than Chaz Green and Bell? The WRS were also bad in their own right.
 

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Maybe he just needed better than Chaz Green and Bell? The WRS were also bad in their own right.
Possibly, but how many all pro/pro bowlers does he need? So 3-4 on the O line plus a RB isn’t enough, now he needs above average receivers? Lol, jesus. A lot of QB’s would be lucky to have half the O line Dak has plus one of the best RB’s in the league.

At this point it might be easier to ask what he doesn’t need to be better.
 

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A thought..Twill was already a question mark with zero scoring last year, and his ability to dissappear at any moment in football season..Injuring himself, and then hitting a curb or what ever he did will not help his availability..

This offense will compete running the ball, as far as the tight end position goes i think they will block well..The Wr are a question mark no doubt but they all have the ability to bring new wrinkles to the party and the Cowboys have a few advantages in the passing game..

The Nfl has no idea what the passing game will be..Thats worth a few wins early. So maybe a record somewhere in the middle...I would not be surprised if Hurns, Bease, and Gallup are your starters with Thompson, Cedric, and noah rounding the wr out..Id say the scat back as well but is he a rb or a wr? Really if we become what the Cowboys want to be, A running team that throws to keep defenses off balance, the passing game will be a tool..Not the focus..
 

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Possibly, but how many all pro/pro bowlers does he need? So 3-4 on the O line plus a RB isn’t enough, now he needs above average receivers? Lol, jesus. A lot of QB’s would be lucky to have half the O line Dak has plus one of the best RB’s in the league.

At this point it might be easier to ask what he doesn’t need to be better.
So what's that saying about a savvy veteran like Romo? In 2014, he had a Pro-bowl O-line (I'd argue better than the 2016 line) and a pro bowl RB that set the franchise single-season rushing record, a younger Witten and the best version of Dez.
What the hell kind of bar have we set that a kid could have an all-time great rookie year, an overall average sophmore year (good first half/mediocre-to-bad 2nd half) and now be written out of the league? No other team's fanbase does this to their QBs but us.
 

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Possibly, but how many all pro/pro bowlers does he need? So 3-4 on the O line plus a RB isn’t enough, now he needs above average receivers? Lol, jesus. A lot of QB’s would be lucky to have half the O line Dak has plus one of the best RB’s in the league.

At this point it might be easier to ask what he doesn’t need to be better.

My point was we had all pro players starting but practice squad talent behind them. He doesn't neccessarily need all pro back ups, just guys that arent complete trash. The drop off was monumental.
 

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So what's that saying about a savvy veteran like Romo? In 2014, he had a Pro-bowl O-line (I'd argue better than the 2016 line) and a pro bowl RB that set the franchise single-season rushing record, a younger Witten and the best version of Dez.
What the hell kind of bar have we set that a kid could have an all-time great rookie year, an overall average sophmore year (good first half/mediocre-to-bad 2nd half) and now be written out of the league? No other team's fanbase does this to their QBs but us.
It says exactly what it says about Romo, he couldn’t get it done in big games and the better QB won. Actually, I’ll blame that one more on the overall team than Romo.

I’ve never once written off Dak and if you’ve read my posts you would know that. I’ve even specifically said I think he’ll have a better year than last.

What I did say is that after last season I’m concerned we may sign him to a big contract if he has a bounce back year but he may not have the continued success without having a top O line and RB. That’s a legitimate concern.

PS Almost every fan base would question their potential franchise QB if they saw chinks in the armor. If they didn’t care, negatively or positively, I would question how much of a “fan” they really are.
 

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My point was we had all pro players starting but practice squad talent behind them. He doesn't neccessarily need all pro back ups, just guys that arent complete trash. The drop off was monumental.
I get that but I’m concerned how he would be if he was under more pressure, more often, which surely he would be without an all pro O line or if we had to rely on the passing game more.

I think he looked pretty bad under pressure. At some point in the next 5-10 years, or sooner if injuries happen, he won’t have the luxury of having all day to sit back and throw. Even a top 15 O line would be a huge drop off from now and would allow more pressure. How is he going to handle it? I’m not saying he won’t be good or even better, only that I’m slightly concerned.

Due to our current situation though, I don’t think he’ll be tested for a couple years at least and I would hate to sign him to a long term contract to figure out that he only succeeds under ideal conditions which most NFL starting QB’s would. Can he be a difference maker without having one of the best O lines and RB’s in the league, that’s what it boils down to.
 

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if the quarter back play and the coaching don't get much better this is a 7 to 9 win team they are really young there are so many question marks with this team all ready lots of huge expectations for a really young team with a suspect coaching staff like last year if every thing goes according to plan then they will do better but if the have adversity they will fold along the way
 

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I get that but I’m concerned how he would be if he was under more pressure, more often, which surely he would be without an all pro O line or if we had to rely on the passing game more.

I think he looked pretty bad under pressure. At some point in the next 5-10 years, or sooner if injuries happen, he won’t have the luxury of having all day to sit back and throw. Even a top 15 O line would be a huge drop off from now and would allow more pressure. How is he going to handle it? I’m not saying he won’t be good or even better, only that I’m slightly concerned.

Due to our current situation though, I don’t think he’ll be tested for a couple years at least and I would hate to sign him to a long term contract to figure out that he only succeeds under ideal conditions which most NFL starting QB’s would. Can he be a difference maker without having one of the best O lines and RB’s in the league, that’s what it boils down to.

You might be right. This season we have depth and we'll be able to see how well he does. Our oline backups were so awful last year it was hard to gauge how well he'd have done with average oline men.

I get the fact a qb shouldn't need 5 all pros, as well as I get the fact a qb getting sacked 6 times in a game can only assume so much responsibility for the offense.
 

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I can seethe Cowboys changing their philosophy a little bit more this season and going with a run oriented/strong defense mode. With new receivers everywhere, it only makes sense to not depend on them early on.
 

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My point was we had all pro players starting but practice squad talent behind them. He doesn't neccessarily need all pro back ups, just guys that arent complete trash. The drop off was monumental.
Yup. All it takes is one.
 

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did we give Prescott enough weapons? We are set at RB but looking at the WR's and TE's on paper we went from middle of the pack to the bottom of the deck in the NFL. With Terrance Williams coming off injury and most likely suspended for driving drunk and fleeing the scene. We really need to get a veteran TE who actually showed something in the NFL. Right now we are putting a big burden on often injured guys and a low round rookie. When you have lesser talented players u need to have a good scheme. Not sure we have a guy on the offensive coaching staff that can scheme up a good offense for us to run. We might be a very very run heavy team. Don't let teams get up on us or we might not have the firepower to catch up.

Dallas has the best run game in the division.

Dallas has plenty of weapons for Dak. They're just as good as Philly and New England, and they were in the Super Bowl. Any good quarterback would flourish in this offense.

This season entirely depends on what Dak Prescott is, or isn't.
 

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NYs Eli has prob one of the best WOs at this time in Beckham. Eli doesn't have enough time to make him overly effective. I don't think they have the O line to help there new RB Barkly ether (spelling?)

Phila. Foles or Wentz they got it done. as painful as this is to say. they didn't miss a beat or should I say flap. solid O group. I swear I can just cry

Wash...empty gas tank, good TE though.

Dallas, I'm a bit concerned with Witten gone and his ability to block as well as a receiver will be sorely missed. we have a new RT ,and unproven WR corp not to mention TWill will be facing a few game suspension.
all we have in the coral as sure fire is Zek and Beasley. only time will tell,


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