Prescott's First 50

[Future]

Yeah well, his 1st 5 seasons were spent with some really bad chargers teams. 1st 2 years in NO he had 26 and 28!

And they were also two eras of football ago.

 

[glimmerman]

The first half of this season, Dak was playing with mostly a sub par receiving corps. Looking forward to a full season with Amari Cooper, an emerging Michael Gallup, and perhaps a new FA, and maybe a new young TE.

This to me will be his break out year if he has one. A fresh and healthy O-Line with likely a little better depth. A while offseason with Cooper. And Gallop coming on. And I am also excited to see Cedric Wilson. Some said he was having a better TC than Gallop before his injury. If for some reason we were able to retain Beez then I would be ok with our WRs. I would possibly work with Swaim on a one year deal. He was doing very well. In his absence the other TE were starting to step up. With another offseason of work we will be better off then some think. I would look at some safeties in the offseason and not ET. Costs to much and injuries worry me with age. Not that he can’t still be effective but at what price? This will be a good draft for depth players. Maybe Mcclay finds a gem.

 

[silvrNblue]

Maybe Kinda can fix Daks throwing problems.

He needs to learn how to read a defense.

"Learning" goes without saying for just about ANY job. And like ANY job, it takes time, name a single QB who came into the league KNOWING how to read all pro NFL defense's? I'll wait.......for that matter, any new hire for a trade be it roofing or mill wright, they all get better over time once they understand the fundamentals of any job.

 

[Future]

"Learning" goes without saying for just about ANY job. And like ANY job, it takes time, name a single QB who came into the league KNOWING how to read all pro NFL defense's? I'll wait.......for that matter, any new hire for a trade be it roofing or mill wright, they all get better over time once they understand the fundamentals of any job.

Sure - but if you hire a roofer and 3 years into their career they're still having the same struggles they did their first year, it's an issue.

 

[CCBoy]

Percy...the irrefutables transcend periods of time, such as throwing a football 50 Yards, or catching a 50 yard pass. Football.

Those facts remain, unless one is playing New England.

 

[Rockport]

the question in this forum is almost always, "can he play?"

that's too simple.

a slightly better question is, "can he play better?"

yes, of course.

even better is, "what most needs improvement?"

that should lead to a discussion of dak's:

speed in decision making
throwing behind receivers on short routes and overthrowing them on deep routes
taking sacks instead of throwing the ball away or stepping up and running (see: speed in decision making, above)
fumbling (see: sacks, above)

this is not a discussion about stats, but skills.

Those are all just perceptions put forth by talking media heads and ignorant fans.

 

[Number1]

what bugs me about Dak's stats even over the last 10 games are the shocking low number of TDs

a 4% TD% and a 70% comp rate is weird, the product of weak red zone targets. no Dez or Wit

they need to get him over 6% ... in other words 50% more TDs ... just get him over 30 TDs passes in 2019

a full off season and some more OL help should do the job

 

[skinsscalper]

Sure - but if you hire a roofer and 3 years into their career they're still having the same struggles they did their first year, it's an issue.

The correct answer is that they're no longer a roofer.

 

[HungryLion]

The correct answer is that they're no longer a roofer.

Unless of course they’re a pretty good roofer from the start......

Also the implication that Dak showed no progress as this past season went along..... is quite frankly absurd.

 

[G2]

Yeah but what about the eyeball test?

 

[skinsscalper]

Unless of course they’re a pretty good roofer from the start......

There's something to be said for that. No doubt.

 

[skinsscalper]

the question in this forum is almost always, "can he play?"

that's too simple.

a slightly better question is, "can he play better?"

yes, of course.

even better is, "what most needs improvement?"

that should lead to a discussion of dak's:

speed in decision making
throwing behind receivers on short routes and overthrowing them on deep routes
taking sacks instead of throwing the ball away or stepping up and running (see: speed in decision making, above)
fumbling (see: sacks, above)

this is not a discussion about stats, but skills.

That's a fair assessment and it's the argument that most of us, who aren't diving headlong into the Dak Prescott lovefest, have.

But, with that being said, for a guy that does have those issues, he's put up respectable numbers, in spite of them. If he doesn't improve (significantly in some of these areas) he'll be just good enough to get us to the playoffs every couple of years and get bounced. If he DOES make some significant strides in some of those areas, he'll be in the upper echelon on NFL QBs. As someone who doesn't have Daks nether regions resting on my chin, I feel pretty confident in that statement.

 

[JD_KaPow]

what bugs me about Dak's stats even over the last 10 games are the shocking low number of TDs

a 4% TD% and a 70% comp rate is weird, the product of weak red zone targets. no Dez or Wit

they need to get him over 6% ... in other words 50% more TDs ... just get him over 30 TDs passes in 2019

a full off season and some more OL help should do the job

You have to at least partially credit him for his 6 rushing TD, which tops everyone who's above him in passing TD%. Those are all red zone TDs. The Cowboys use him differently in close than other QBs are used.

 

[blueblood70]

it shows what most of us saw with 2016 peak but 16 game stretch over 17-18 where he egressed and last 10 games hes improved a lot and really just back to 2016 like play..Will his best weve seen be his ceiling thats the question..

 

[HungryLion]

There's something to be said for that. No doubt.

The biggest question is, can Dak still grow in the areas that need strengthening.

I disagree with people saying that Dak is still exactly like his scouting report. He has improved in reading defenses and throwing with anticipation, then when he was in college. He just doesn’t do those things at an elite level yet. More like an NFL average level.

I think the people who want Dak to be gone, are those that don’t believe he can and will continue to improve his weaknesses.

The ones who think Dak are the future, tend to believe he will still improve in those areas.

So I do think a philosophical difference is taking place in their thoughts on Dak

 

[skinsscalper]

The biggest question is, can Dak still grow in the areas that need strengthening.

I disagree with people saying that Dak is still exactly like his scouting report. He has improved in reading defenses and throwing with anticipation, then when he was in college. He just doesn’t do those things at an elite level yet. More like an NFL average level.

I think the people who want Dak to be gone, are those that don’t believe he can and will continue to improve his weaknesses.

The ones who think Dak are the future, tend to believe he will still improve in those areas.

So I do think a philosophical difference is taking place in their thoughts on Dak

I think this is pretty accurate. See my post up a couple from yours and I think we're on the same page.

I don't really have my feet dug in on either side of the argument. I guess if I had to pick a side, I'm more on the "hope that he continues to improve in his struggling areas" rather than the "I'm certain he will" camp.

 

[MarcusRock]

Dak’s pinpoint lazer passes, pocket awareness and ability to read defenses will lead us to a SP victory next season. Bank on it!

SP = single playoff? Same as this year. That's not progress.

 

[pansophy]

Today I learned that Drew Brees didn’t top 30 passing TDS until his 8th season as a pro

How long did it take Mahomes?

Comparing Dak to guys who started playing in almost 20 years ago doesn't make a lot of sense. A lot has changed since then.

 

[noshame]

With a play caller this guys is lights out next year.

Thanks for the truth Percy

 

[morat1959]

SP = single playoff? Same as this year. That's not progress.

I guess you’re being sarcastic because you know I was. I can watch his play on the field and tell you he had the same issues he’s had since college. Dak is what he is. That being said, a good OC could design an offense that’s designed more to his strengths. Running the ball and roll outs. He’s not a pocket passer and he’s never gonna read nfl defenses.