Preseason games necessary?

[CouchCoach]

Watch the rest of the televised games this weekend and answer that question.

Was there a little rust showing last night? Sure but was there more than usual? I didn't see it and if you listened to the game, you heard Collinsworth remark about it more than once. He didn't belabor it and make the owners twitchy but he did deliver the message. He even stressed the lack of penalties, usually an issue on the opening weekend.

It's only one game but those teams didn't look like they hadn't been playing because they have, each other on their own teams. They've been allowed to practice more and not interrupt that with meaningless games for the players already on the team.

 

[dargonking999]

Preseason games are less about the starters getting game action, and more about the young players getting a chance to show whether they can contribute or not. Giving the UDFA's, 2nd and 3rd year players the opportunity to show they should make the team or even start.

So yes they are necessary. Do we need 4? No, but doing away with them all ruins the evaluation for alot of young players, and takes away the opportunity to make a roster on someone else's team.

 

[jazzcat22]

I still think they are necessary, but are 4 games needed. I never minded them, and watched them. But 2 or 3 may be good enough.
The only time I minded them, was when I had my season tickets and was forced to pay for 2 home games at full price.

 

[DFWJC]

No other level of football has them.
They aren't totally necessary.

But as I've said before, in a league where roster size is so limited, you can see why coaches (and all fringe players) would like to at least have one or two of them.
Coaches say every year that several spots on the tail end of the roster are solidified (or not) by preseason games.

Vets usually don't like it though. And I don't blame them.

However, the biggest rip off in all of pro sports is the ticket pricing for preseason. It should illegal to charge full price.

 

[JayFord]

Pre season games are for figuring out depth

and they need to scale it back to two games and eliminate the hof game

 

[thunderpimp91]

As others have said im sure it hurts bottom of the roster players more than anything.

Yesterday's game really didnt seem "sloppy" by any means.

The big plus to the lack of a preseason seems to be a lack of injuries this year. Although I don't have any numbers to back that up and may be completely wrong.

It seems like 2 games for preseason, just let the bottom half of the roster play should be fine.

I guess we will see how the rest of the week 1 games go.

 

[DeaconMoss]

I think there should be 2 PS games for rookies and UDFA only. Team can mark 10 players from the 53 as fringe starters to play also. 43 locks are not allowed to dress.

 

[BigTimeBlues]

I'd be down for a "revamp" of sorts, top to bottom.

Dial it back to one, maybe two "exhibition" matches for analyzing personnel, new to the league and new to the team's system.

In a perfect vacuum, with the way the Cap is(was) rising, instead of paying top players ludicrous contracts, why not increase the roster size? 10 or so, nothing absurd. But give these bubble players a better shot of making the roster.

I'm sure they would possibly be designated to strictly Special Teams, but I feel like that could add another layer of strategy.

Who knows, just bouncing ideas off of the wall out of my head, I'm blaming the coffee.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Well, the answer depends on who you are.
For an owner, yes they are necessary to make money.
For the TV networks, yes , they are necessary to make money.
For the people who work at the games (concession, parking, security, etc.), yes.
For the undrafted and late round player trying to make a team, absolutely necessary.

For the veterans, absolutely not.

For the fans and entertainment, mostly yes.
It is fun to follow along the camp battles for roster spots and root for certain players. Get some bragging rights, I-told-you-so. One of of the worst parts of preseason games is watching a player get hurt. As soon as that happens, everyone says preseason games are not worth it. The preseason games feed into the excitement for the preseason. People develop pet cats.

This is the first season in almost 50 years of watching football where I have the least interest in what happens. Still enjoy the games but not as much and just don't feel any excitement. I was a huge Reds' baseball fan until the players went on strike the second time and I have never watched a pitch since. The greed of the owners and players killed the excitement. I was a huge Lakers' basketball fan but haven't watched since the late 1980s. Something changed. Basketball is just one big snooze-fest today like golf to me. Maybe it is dynasty related. Nothing will top the Big Red Machine or the 1980s Lakers. Maybe nothing will top the Cowboys' dynasty years.

Maybe it's the game getting boring, or maybe it's just age getting to me. I wonder if football will go the way baseball and basketball went for me.

 

[conner01]

I still think they are necessary, but are 4 games needed. I never minded them, and watched them. But 2 or 3 may be good enough.
The only time I minded them, was when I had my season tickets and was forced to pay for 2 home games at full price.

To me 3 would be a perfect number
And they should discount tickets for them, give away lots to organization like boys & girls club
It’s about young players more than vets and the league should use it that way instead of having everything about profits

 

[blueblood70]

YES TWO(2)

i believe rookies, FAs, and coaches need them but also players use enough of them to get some real tackling and taking hits from an opponent

i still think two are needed..

 

[jazzcat22]

To me 3 would be a perfect number
And they should discount tickets for them, give away lots to organization like boys & girls club
It’s about young players more than vets and the league should use it that way instead of having everything about profits

2 years ago Jerry did reduce prices of the PS games, however the regular season tickets went up a little to offset that.
It was the first time prices were raises I believe.
I know when I first my mine when the stadium opened, it was that prices would not be increased fro at lest 5 years. It took him him 9 years.
I had sold my PSL's by then.

 

[Ranching]

No other level of football has them.
They aren't totally necessary.

But as I've said before, in a league where roster size is so limited, you can see why coaches (and all fringe players) would like to at least have one or two of them.
Coaches say every year that several spots on the tail end of the roster are solidified (or not) by preseason games.

Vets usually don't like it though. And I don't blame them.

However, the biggest rip off in all of pro sports is the ticket pricing for preseason. It should illegal to charge full price.

We have at least 2 in HS. We call them scrimmages, but we always play the last one like a game. Two would be good. One to see the starters for a half and the last one to evaluate rookies and bubble players before cuts are made. They're probably some players that were cut this year that would have made a team if they had the opportunity to impress.

 

[fivetwos]

I still think they are necessary, but are 4 games needed. I never minded them, and watched them. But 2 or 3 may be good enough.
The only time I minded them, was when I had my season tickets and was forced to pay for 2 home games at full price.

Ha! Well theres the reason the were not reduced.

I think everyone involved wants less preseason but only if more regular season games are added.

Those billionaires dont like giving back money!

 

[bsbellomy]

Watch the rest of the televised games this weekend and answer that question.

Was there a little rust showing last night? Sure but was there more than usual? I didn't see it and if you listened to the game, you heard Collinsworth remark about it more than once. He didn't belabor it and make the owners twitchy but he did deliver the message. He even stressed the lack of penalties, usually an issue on the opening weekend.

It's only one game but those teams didn't look like they hadn't been playing because they have, each other on their own teams. They've been allowed to practice more and not interrupt that with meaningless games for the players already on the team.

I dont know about rust but to me it looked as though the players were absolutely lifeless out there. All aside from the rookie RB for the Chiefs lol

 

[Diehardblues]

Watch the rest of the televised games this weekend and answer that question.

Was there a little rust showing last night? Sure but was there more than usual? I didn't see it and if you listened to the game, you heard Collinsworth remark about it more than once. He didn't belabor it and make the owners twitchy but he did deliver the message. He even stressed the lack of penalties, usually an issue on the opening weekend.

It's only one game but those teams didn't look like they hadn't been playing because they have, each other on their own teams. They've been allowed to practice more and not interrupt that with meaningless games for the players already on the team.

We’ve always known the preseason games were nothing more than an exhibition . That’s what they used to call them.

The starters have very limited action. And Coaches have always said practices is where it’s determined.

These silly games at regular priced tickets is another means to generate revenue. It adds very little to the process of determining roster spots.

I think your evaluation from last nights game is spot on. I couldn’t tell any difference either.

 

[Diehardblues]

When the new bargaining agreement is made in 2023 when the 17th game is added expect these Exhibition games to be reduced to 2 or 3.

 

[ItzKelz]

Watch the rest of the televised games this weekend and answer that question.

Was there a little rust showing last night? Sure but was there more than usual? I didn't see it and if you listened to the game, you heard Collinsworth remark about it more than once. He didn't belabor it and make the owners twitchy but he did deliver the message. He even stressed the lack of penalties, usually an issue on the opening weekend.

It's only one game but those teams didn't look like they hadn't been playing because they have, each other on their own teams. They've been allowed to practice more and not interrupt that with meaningless games for the players already on the team.

neither team could really stop the run. The lack of tackling in the preseason showed IMO.

 

[CouchCoach]

Well, the answer depends on who you are.
For an owner, yes they are necessary to make money.
For the TV networks, yes , they are necessary to make money.
For the people who work at the games (concession, parking, security, etc.), yes.
For the undrafted and late round player trying to make a team, absolutely necessary.

For the veterans, absolutely not.

For the fans and entertainment, mostly yes.
It is fun to follow along the camp battles for roster spots and root for certain players. Get some bragging rights, I-told-you-so. One of of the worst parts of preseason games is watching a player get hurt. As soon as that happens, everyone says preseason games are not worth it. The preseason games feed into the excitement for the preseason. People develop pet cats.

This is the first season in almost 50 years of watching football where I have the least interest in what happens. Still enjoy the games but not as much and just don't feel any excitement. I was a huge Reds' baseball fan until the players went on strike the second time and I have never watched a pitch since. The greed of the owners and players killed the excitement. I was a huge Lakers' basketball fan but haven't watched since the late 1980s. Something changed. Basketball is just one big snooze-fest today like golf to me. Maybe it is dynasty related. Nothing will top the Big Red Machine or the 1980s Lakers. Maybe nothing will top the Cowboys' dynasty years.

Maybe it's the game getting boring, or maybe it's just age getting to me. I wonder if football will go the way baseball and basketball went for me.

Most preseason games are not televised by TV nets but by local stations as the ratings are very poor.

 

[BigD_95]

Preseason games are less about the starters getting game action, and more about the young players getting a chance to show whether they can contribute or not. Giving the UDFA's, 2nd and 3rd year players the opportunity to show they should make the team or even start.

So yes they are necessary. Do we need 4? No, but doing away with them all ruins the evaluation for alot of young players, and takes away the opportunity to make a roster on someone else's team.

no its not about the young players either.

Its about the owners getting more revenue

The coaches can tell in practices who can make a team.