Preseason games necessary?

[Jenky]

no its not about the young players either.

Its about the owners getting more revenue

The coaches can tell in practices who can make a team.

This. It's all about the money.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

I think they need PS. Look at last night. The Chiefs returned most if not all of their staff and retained a lot of the starters from last year. KC looked crisp and ready to roll. Then look at the Texans, they were off all night, their timing was off a lot, would have PS helped a team like the Texans with new OC and DC and more new players, I think so. It is just hard to simulate game conditions during a practice. The more new players, staff etc, the more PS games help. I don't think they need 4, I would recommend a live scrimmage against a team and then 2 PS games.

 

[CouchCoach]

neither team could really stop the run. The lack of tackling in the preseason showed IMO.

Worse than usual? My point is the preseason games do not give us a better product at the start of the season. The tackling is sloppy with or without preseason games.

 

[ItzKelz]

Worse than usual? My point is the preseason games do not give us a better product at the start of the season. The tackling is sloppy with or without preseason games.

Typically defenses are ahead of offenses in the first 3 to 4 games of the season. i personally didn't see that and what stood out most was the terrible tackling. I mean David Johnson looked like he jumped into a time machine and went back 4 years.

 

[conner01]

2 years ago Jerry did reduce prices of the PS games, however the regular season tickets went up a little to offset that.
It was the first time prices were raises I believe.
I know when I first my mine when the stadium opened, it was that prices would not be increased fro at lest 5 years. It took him him 9 years.
I had sold my PSL's by then.

I’d like to see them give charities and groups who work with kids PS tickets
But I have a better chance of winning the lottery than that happening

 

[conner01]

Worse than usual? My point is the preseason games do not give us a better product at the start of the season. The tackling is sloppy with or without preseason games.

I don’t think most vets take PS serious and can’t really blame them
It’s mostly about the young guys getting game reps to learn and earn a roster spot

 

[jazzcat22]

I’d like to see them give charities and groups who work with kids PS tickets
But I have a better chance of winning the lottery than that happening

the team website had a box to check when you listed to sell them, that you could donate your tickets to charity for them to take underprivileged children.
Jerry is extremely generous to charities. It is not publicized too much. As that news does not sell.

he just can’t say give PS tickets to this, as they are part of season ticket packages sold. though any unsold single tickets he could, and may do so for so many of them. Maybe he should change that, bit you can only give away so many.
There are metrics to that. 50,000 children and no beer sales? LOL.

 

[Established1971]

I still think they are necessary, but are 4 games needed. I never minded them, and watched them. But 2 or 3 may be good enough.
The only time I minded them, was when I had my season tickets and was forced to pay for 2 home games at full price.

I'm old enough to remember 6 and 7 if the team was defending champ (college all star game) that equal to half the regular season, why on earth did they do that?

 

[gjkoeppen]

Watch the rest of the televised games this weekend and answer that question.

Was there a little rust showing last night? Sure but was there more than usual? I didn't see it and if you listened to the game, you heard Collinsworth remark about it more than once. He didn't belabor it and make the owners twitchy but he did deliver the message. He even stressed the lack of penalties, usually an issue on the opening weekend.

It's only one game but those teams didn't look like they hadn't been playing because they have, each other on their own teams. They've been allowed to practice more and not interrupt that with meaningless games for the players already on the team.

Here's some thoughts on your thinking. First the people that can answer if preseason games are necessary are the coaches. It doesn't matter what fans think. Just like every year in preseason games the refs call very close the rules they are going to enforce more that season, because of this year and no preseason the refs may have made a group decision to not call things real close for a couple of weeks to let the teams get into game shape. Lastly the league or actually the owners aren't going to throw out an income stream like preseason games.
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[gjkoeppen]

no its not about the young players either.

Its about the owners getting more revenue

The coaches can tell in practices who can make a team.

If this is true why in the past when there was talks about cutting preseason games down to two almost every coach was against that?
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[jazzcat22]

I'm old enough to remember 6 and 7 if the team was defending champ (college all star game) that equal to half the regular season, why on earth did they do that?

yes when there were 12 and 14 game seasons, they had that many PS games. I forgot about that.

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

I suspect the pre-season will be forever changed after this. The league will eventually move away from so many.

I'm really glad the Cowboys didn't have to play 5 this year!

 

[gimmesix]

Watch the rest of the televised games this weekend and answer that question.

Was there a little rust showing last night? Sure but was there more than usual? I didn't see it and if you listened to the game, you heard Collinsworth remark about it more than once. He didn't belabor it and make the owners twitchy but he did deliver the message. He even stressed the lack of penalties, usually an issue on the opening weekend.

It's only one game but those teams didn't look like they hadn't been playing because they have, each other on their own teams. They've been allowed to practice more and not interrupt that with meaningless games for the players already on the team.

I wouldn't mind if they were limited to just young and new players. I don't think vets necessarily need them (maybe on teams with new scheme) but players without much experience could use them IMO.

 

[Bobhaze]

A shortlist of people who feel NFL preseason games are necessary:

• NFL owners who see the two ps home games as a cash cow.
• Fans starved for football while convincing themselves watching mostly guys who will never play a down in the NFL is somehow meaningful.
  
• NFL coaches who don’t want to go against their employers. (And most Coaches at any level always want extra time to prepare)

Reasons why they don’t matter:

• Established Veteran players hate putting their bodies on the line in games that mean absolutely nothing in the season standings, and don’t really represent actual NFL game speed, game planning or preparation.
• Watching a rookie or veteran player fighting for a roster spot in a preseason game, mostly against guys who will never play in this league, is not a realistic view of their roster readiness.
• A rookie corner trying to make this team covering another free agent rookie WR in a ps game is not an accurate look at how either player will handle NFL starter quality talent.
• Let the rookies and veterans fighting for a roster spot, practice against people like Zack Martin or Amari Cooper, who are true quality NFL talent.
• No game planning, very little use of the play book or defensive schemes make these games poor representatives of simulated NFL competition.
  
• They don’t prepare either side of the ball for the regular season. Practice does.

I wouldn’t mind if the owners called these “exhibition games” and charged about $10 a game instead of fleecing fans for this garbage.

 

[nalam]

Question to stats gurus!

name a couple of players , low draft picks or UDFAs who exploded from pre season and made a good career. I am sure there are some , for them pre season is important.

 

[Cattle_Rancher]

I think its still important for a team with a new HC and for young and rookie players

 

[kskboys]

Worse than usual? My point is the preseason games do not give us a better product at the start of the season. The tackling is sloppy with or without preseason games.

That's because they don't play the starters any more. It used to.

 

[kskboys]

A shortlist of people who feel NFL preseason games are necessary:

• NFL owners who see the two ps home games as a cash cow.
• Fans starved for football while convincing themselves watching mostly guys who will never play a down in the NFL is somehow meaningful.
  
• NFL coaches who don’t want to go against their employers. (And most Coaches at any level always want extra time to prepare)

Reasons why they don’t matter:

• Established Veteran players hate putting their bodies on the line in games that mean absolutely nothing in the season standings, and don’t really represent actual NFL game speed, game planning or preparation.
• Watching a rookie or veteran player fighting for a roster spot in a preseason game, mostly against guys who will never play in this league, is not a realistic view of their roster readiness.
• A rookie corner trying to make this team covering another free agent rookie WR in a ps game is not an accurate look at how either player will handle NFL starter quality talent.
• Let the rookies and veterans fighting for a roster spot, practice against people like Zack Martin or Amari Cooper, who are true quality NFL talent.
• No game planning, very little use of the play book or defensive schemes make these games poor representatives of simulated NFL competition.
  
• They don’t prepare either side of the ball for the regular season. Practice does.

I wouldn’t mind if the owners called these “exhibition games” and charged about $10 a game instead of fleecing fans for this garbage.

What they should do then is have a rookies only preseason and charge very little for tickets.

 

[fivetwos]

the team website had a box to check when you listed to sell them, that you could donate your tickets to charity for them to take underprivileged children.
Jerry is extremely generous to charities. It is not publicized too much. As that news does not sell.

he just can’t say give PS tickets to this, as they are part of season ticket packages sold. though any unsold single tickets he could, and may do so for so many of them. Maybe he should change that, bit you can only give away so many.
There are metrics to that. 50,000 children and no beer sales? LOL.

Yes youd figure Jerry wants them donated to people that can afford $12 Miller Lites!!

 

[zerofill]

These guys are pro athletes... Only need a couple games for roster trimming. Starters don't even need to be out there.