Prisco Quick Hits: Freeney asked for $30Mil SB?... More

[burmafrd]

We would have to give up our #1 this year and #1 next year, and probably more to move up to the#3 pick to get Johnson. NO ONE is worth that much unless you are sure you are getting a Brady or Montana.

 

[burmafrd]

Bargain shopping has put us within reach of getting to the big dance. The only really expensive FA was TO. Rivera and Henry were mid range guys.

 

[Doomsday101]

this will never happen tho. and if it did right when it happened cowboy fans woud cry about it until the end of time. 2 first rd picks?!? and would bring up joey galloway again. seems like fans have been brainwashed by 4 yrs of parcells and his bargain shopping

2 1st rd and a 30 million signing bonus. Freeney is good he is not that damn good. His 5.5 sacks last year proved he is not super man.

 

[Clove]

this will never happen tho. and if it did right when it happened cowboy fans woud cry about it until the end of time. 2 first rd picks?!? and would bring up joey galloway again. seems like fans have been brainwashed by 4 yrs of parcells and his bargain shopping

What are 2 first round picks, if you make the wrong pick?

Yeah we gave up 2 first rounders, I have no idea how great Galloway was at the time, but what killed us mostly was being up against the salary cap. You take a chance, if it doesn't work, you wait and take another chance.

I'm not saying to be stupid, and give up 2 picks, if those picks are very high in the draft. If you are a sorry team like the Saints were when Ditka pulled that rediculous trade, then that's stupid.

But if you're a team ready to make a serious run, and you see a player that's "special", you pull the trigger. Special players make a difference in games. Tom Brady/ Peyton Manning/ Brian Urlacher sp?/ Emmitt Smith/ we all get the point.

The thing I would not do is over pay in free agency. I would go after 1 huge name, and then get a couple of mid-tier players.

 

[LatinMind]

We would have to give up our #1 this year and #1 next year, and probably more to move up to the#3 pick to get Johnson. NO ONE is worth that much unless you are sure you are getting a Brady or Montana.

lol see what i mean

 

[LatinMind]

2 1st rd and a 30 million signing bonus. Freeney is good he is not that damn good. His 5.5 sacks last year proved he is not super man.

not talking about freeney. the two first round picks was talking about calvin i dont care about freeney

 

[LatinMind]

What are 2 first round picks, if you make the wrong pick?

Yeah we gave up 2 first rounders, I have no idea how great Galloway was at the time, but what killed us mostly was being up against the salary cap. You take a chance, if it doesn't work, you wait and take another chance.

I'm not saying to be stupid, and give up 2 picks, if those picks are very high in the draft. If you are a sorry team like the Saints were when Ditka pulled that rediculous trade, then that's stupid.

But if you're a team ready to make a serious run, and you see a player that's "special", you pull the trigger. Special players make a difference in games. Tom Brady/ Peyton Manning/ Brian Urlacher sp?/ Emmitt Smith/ we all get the point.

The thing I would not do is over pay in free agency. I would go after 1 huge name, and then get a couple of mid-tier players.

well next yr say if dallas moved up for calvin would u expect dallas to have a late round pick? wouldnt that be like a 2nd rd pick? calvin johnson i think is going to be special like smith and urlacher, manning and brady

 

[Hoofbite]

What happens if no one trades up to pick Johnson.......are they all brainwashed as well?

 

[LatinMind]

What happens if no one trades up to pick Johnson.......are they all brainwashed as well?

do u think tampa is lookig to trade? nope. this was all a dream for me. calvin would be in dream in dallas. not what anybody thinks will or should happen. but it seems i wasnt the only one having this dream

 

[Hoofbite]

do u think tampa is lookig to trade? nope. this was all a dream for me. calvin would be in dream in dallas. not what anybody thinks will or should happen. but it seems i wasnt the only one having this dream

So basically any team that has a chance of taking Johnson isn't brainwashed.....anyone below the 5th pick should be, right?

All other teams who don't have a shot at taking Johnson and aren't trading up are just brainwashed, correct?

 

[ajk23az]

Give up two firsts... Which I would gladly do.

we gave up 2 firsts for GALLOWAY of all people, come on jerry! can you imagine this guy paired up with TO!! romo would be ALLLL giddy.....

i think we could afford giving up 2 firsts because we arent THAT far away from a team that could go deep into the playoffs...

 

[LatinMind]

well u have to think about if that team wants to trade in the first place. a team can want to trade up all they want. but if the team there doesnt want to then they just dont want to right?

 

[zeromaster]

Stop being conservative Jerry, if you see a Reggie Bush type, Peyton Manning type player on the board, and your team is almost there, be aggressive and don't go over board, but do what you need to do to get that once in a life time player (if that's what you think he is)

Hooray fantasy football - that's what it is this time of year.

There are way too many contradictions ("Stop being conservative Jerry", "be aggressive and don't go over board", and "if you see ... and your team is almost there" to name three) for this to be taken seriously.

I understand your sentiment. Johnson is a real talent, but you are also assuming the "once in a life time player (if..." part.

When has Jones been thought of as being conservative? Owens? Deion? Haley? Only the results with Parcells could be considered conservative.

Fortunately Valley Ranch doesn't use the postings here as a guide for running the team.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I don't know why, but for some reason the WR position captures people's imaginations and they go ga-ga over them, despite the fact that WR's typically don't make or break a team. In fact, if you look at the history of Superbowl winners, you could make a case that WR is actually the one position you can be a little weak. I don't think the Patriots or the Steelers, which make up 4 of the last 6 Superbowl Winners, had anything more than servicable WR's. 75% of the posts on this board are about the WR position. I guess its because they make the most highlight reel plays.

 

[Clove]

Just saying that 1 or 2 special people, could be the difference in being a super bowl team.

To me, Tom Brady is and was the key to all of their super bowls. Just that one person. Of course you need great players at several key areas, and great debth and all that, but special players are better than great.

I have no clue if Calvin is special or not, I've never actually seen him play. But this goes for anyone. If the guy is special, and you think that your 2 picks that you would give up to get 1 player, will be as good or worse than the "player" you're trying to get, it makes sense.

We can go through 7 years of number 1 picks, and none of that gave us a super bowl victory. How many other teams have gone through years and years of 1st round picks, to come away with no super bowls.

I'm really not trying to convince anyone, and I'm not on some type of crusade or anything, it's just something to think about. Carry on.

 

[EastDallasCowboy]

Looks like I may have found my rookie WR to draft this year in FF, depending where he lands.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Just saying that 1 or 2 special people, could be the difference in being a super bowl team.

To me, Tom Brady is and was the key to all of their super bowls. Just that one person. Of course you need great players at several key areas, and great debth and all that, but special players are better than great.

I'm not disagreeing on difference makers, I just dont think Calvin Johnson would be that guy on this team. WR's weren't the problem with this team. We had two 1,000 WR's and a near Pro Bowl caliber TE. How much is Calvin Johnson going to improve our passing attack over that? Marginal, I would say.

Tom Brady touches the ball on every offensive snap. Even the best WR's only touch the ball 4-6 times a game. I think Randy Moss could be the best WR in the NFL next year, and the Raiders could still go 2-14. The Cardinals have maybe the best WR corp in the NFL, and they're still the joke of the NFL. I bet if they had one of the top offensive lines or defensive lines in the NFL they wouldn't.

WR's .. yes, you need them. Even good ones. But they typically don't make or break your franchise.

 

[Clove]

Hooray fantasy football - that's what it is this time of year.

There are way too many contradictions ("Stop being conservative Jerry", "be aggressive and don't go over board", and "if you see ... and your team is almost there" to name three) for this to be taken seriously.

I understand your sentiment. Johnson is a real talent, but you are also assuming the "once in a life time player (if..." part.

When has Jones been thought of as being conservative? Owens? Deion? Haley? Only the results with Parcells could be considered conservative.

Fortunately Valley Ranch doesn't use the postings here as a guide for running the team.

Yeah, the guide you'd like, and the guide they've been using, has been winning us a ton of super bowls lately. Let's keep doing what we've been doing.

 

[jobberone]

What are 2 first round picks, if you make the wrong pick?

Yeah we gave up 2 first rounders, I have no idea how great Galloway was at the time, but what killed us mostly was being up against the salary cap. You take a chance, if it doesn't work, you wait and take another chance.

I'm not saying to be stupid, and give up 2 picks, if those picks are very high in the draft. If you are a sorry team like the Saints were when Ditka pulled that rediculous trade, then that's stupid.

But if you're a team ready to make a serious run, and you see a player that's "special", you pull the trigger. Special players make a difference in games. Tom Brady/ Peyton Manning/ Brian Urlacher sp?/ Emmitt Smith/ we all get the point.

The thing I would not do is over pay in free agency. I would go after 1 huge name, and then get a couple of mid-tier players.

I don't have serious problems with that but a WR no matter how good he is is worth two ones IMO. A QB or a dominating pass rusher are esp QB.

One tremendous WR is not going to put us over the top. We are loaded at WR and have a QB good enough to get them the ball.

What we don't have is a dominating defense and in particular we don't have a dominating pass rusher.

Someone who plays like Deion or Haley and are needed by a team close, then I can see it.

I see Johnson as a unique WR and he will have an impact on any team he plays for that has a decent offense; ie, a team with an OL, QB and running game that can use him.

But Johnson will not put Dallas in the SB like a Haley or Sanders did. In fact we need clones of those two players. Do that, move Henry to S, and we are instant SB favorites.

That kid is still an amazing athlete.

 

[Clove]

I don't have serious problems with that but a WR no matter how good he is is worth two ones IMO. A QB or a dominating pass rusher are esp QB.

One tremendous WR is not going to put us over the top. We are loaded at WR and have a QB good enough to get them the ball.

What we don't have is a dominating defense and in particular we don't have a dominating pass rusher.

Someone who plays like Deion or Haley and are needed by a team close, then I can see it.

I see Johnson as a unique WR and he will have an impact on any team he plays for that has a decent offense; ie, a team with an OL, QB and running game that can use him.

But Johnson will not put Dallas in the SB like a Haley or Sanders did. In fact we need clones of those two players. Do that, move Henry to S, and we are instant SB favorites.

That kid is still an amazing athlete.

From my first post on the subject, I was wanting to offer a couple of players, our 1 (which is a swap) and next years 2. The players were Terrell Owens and Greg Ellis.

More than likely, the teams wouldn't go for it, but if they did, pull the trigger.

No where in my post did I say to trade 2 number 1s. But I did say if they decided to do that, you would only be missing a next years 1. This years one would obviously be a swap.