Projecting 2024 Draft Needs

[cowboysfan31]

OL, OL, and OL again.

Tyron is close to done. Steele is about to get PAID. Now add Martin, and think about how petty the Jones' can be.

If you're bored, check out the BYU Tackle and the Duke Tackle (who I think is a Guard). Those are my very early 2024 pet cats.

One of my early favorites is BC’s Christian Mahogany.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Or you can just be creative and not choose to live in ‘better than average’ land for 10 more years. Why not extend him without a no trade clause? Then this epic qb can be traded for high draft capital. Dallas could even sweeten the deal take taking about 10M of his salary on their own books for a couple years. It’s a fluid league with many work arounds.

Because he would be stupid to do that, and Dallas would have to eat the bonus lol. It's an even worse decision than releasing him.

If you want to move on from Dak, fine. But admit that it's a full rebuild and be ready to move on from everybody, because you're going to have to pump a ton of resources into acquiring a QB.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

There are lots of sliding door scenarios this season, with many potential breakout players that might impact the draft in 2024. Below is one analysis position by position based on what we’ve seen so far. Feel free to respond with your own

QB: Draft need - low.
There’s a part of me that wants us to move on from Dak after this year if he can’t get far in the playoffs, but alas, reality stands in the way. Look for a late round pick to push Rush or Grier.

HB: Draft need - moderate/low
As much as we might all think Pollard is gone next season, I can also see a multi year deal or another franchise tag. Either way, I don’t expect the cowboys to invest high draft capital in a 5 year player

WR: Draft Need - low
Call me crazy, but I think between Tolbert, Cropper, and other guys, we have some juice for the future. Unless a CD-type free fall happens again in 2024, I’m thinking it’ll be a day 3 pick

TE: Draft need - low
Call me crazy, but even if Schoonmaker has a red shirt year, I think the other guys will step up and prove the cowboys don’t need more picks here. I’ve said all along I see Schoon as an IDEAL #2 TE (great blocker with receiver potential) right away. Hope we get to see that this year. Ferg looks like he worked his rear off this off-season

OT: Draft need - Moderate/High
To me, this is a wildcard position. Personally, I’d rather keep Tyler Smith at guard if he plays all pro there this season, which mean Wa-lets-go needs to step up or we need to be surprised by Asim or a UDFA not to draft high. If Tyler switches to OT, see OG

OG: Draft Need - High
Same story as above if Tyler moves. Maybe Asim turns out to be awesome (see what I did there?). Either way, Zack only has 2-3 years left at the position, so we need a new anchor

OC: Draft Need - Moderate
I don’t like Biadasz. If a stud is there in the 2nd or 3rd, I’m taking them

1T: Draft need - Low
No way they give up Mazi that fast. They’ll bring back Hankins or get a late pick

3T: Draft Need - Moderate/High
This all comes down to Fehoko and Gholston. If they show juice, this goes too low. If they stink, this is a high need. Please don’t respond about Alarcon…just don’t

DE: Draft Need - Low (wow)
Even if Lawrence retires, we have some serious studs here. Maybe they get a Fowler type FA or a day 3 pick, but this is a major strength right now

LB: Draft need - High
I think LVE is on a clock, and while I trust Clark to grow, everything else is a complete crap shoot. Maybe Overshown blows up or the lightbulb goes on for Cox, but I think this is a place where we can really upgrade in the draft

CB: Draft need - Low (wow again)
I just trust this group. Even if Gilmore leaves, they are just so deep and so solid. Hot take is that Eric Scott and Bland start next year with Joseph as the #4

S: Draft Need - Low
Too much depth. Heck, even the practice squad guys get me excited

k: HIGH

I'm still bugged that they didn't do much to help the OL this year given how awesome the other position groups are doing, this could very well be the thing that derails them and they could have done more to fix it.

 

[LonnieElam]

. QB and offensive line are pretty big needs, imo. They need to draft a QB, even if it means moving up, in the 1st round in the next draft, or the draft after that.

 

[big dog cowboy]

If you want to move on from Dak, fine. But admit that it's a full rebuild and be ready to move on from everybody, because you're going to have to pump a ton of resources into acquiring a QB.

That's simply not true. You don't have to trade up into the top 1-2 spots next April to get a good QB.

It's better than paying $50M a year to a QB that A) eats up too much salary cap and B) can't win you a super bowl.

If the Cowboys had to give up 2 first round picks and a couple of players the roster would still be one of the best in the league. That is no where close to a full rebuild.

 

[big dog cowboy]

offensive line are pretty big needs, imo.

You know the Cowboys don't agree. They might draft one on day 2 but OL isn't a big need at all.

They really like Edoga and Farniok and view Waletzko and Richards as future starters.

The big question is center. They could draft one early and let Biadasz walk but that isn't what I expect.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

That's simply not true. You don't have to trade up into the top 1-2 spots next April to get a good QB.

It's better than paying $50M a year to a QB that A) eats up too much salary cap and B) can't win you a super bowl.

If the Cowboys had to give up 2 first round picks and a couple of players the roster would still be one of the best in the league. That is no where close to a full rebuild.

For the umpteenth time, you are paying Dak MORE by releasing him than you are by extending him. If you cut him outright, he's got a cap hit of $59m or as a post June-1 its approx. $25m for two years. An extension drops his cap to something like $18-20m, depending how it is structured.

Chances of getting a better QB, right away, in the 20s, is basically 0. You're waiting three years for that guy to be good, and there's a 50/50 chance is he.

Your logic is flawed because you use made up numbers and the false premise that a QB you draft at 20-something is going to be more prolific than Dak is day 1. It's stupid.

 

[raven55]

better draft a tight end that can play the 2023 draft didn't move the needle much

 

[big dog cowboy]

For the umpteenth time, you are paying Dak MORE by releasing him than you are by extending him.

Why do you keep saying that? No where did I ever say anything about releasing Dak? That would be dumb.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Your logic is flawed because you use made up numbers and the false premise that a QB you draft at 20-something is going to be more prolific than Dak is day 1. It's stupid.

Not sure what made up numbers you are talking about. At least with a new QB you will be working towards something. We saw what Purdy did last year as Mr. Irrelevant. You could get a new rookie higher than in the 20's. Could he bust? Yes. Could he hit? Yes. Would he be better than Dak on day 1? Probably not. Could he in a couple of years? Yes. Is that better than sticking with a QB who won't win you are super bowl and cost WAY to much? Yes.

 

[McMicah]

For the umpteenth time, you are paying Dak MORE by releasing him than you are by extending him. If you cut him outright, he's got a cap hit of $59m or as a post June-1 its approx. $25m for two years. An extension drops his cap to something like $18-20m, depending how it is structured.

Chances of getting a better QB, right away, in the 20s, is basically 0. You're waiting three years for that guy to be good, and there's a 50/50 chance is he.

Your logic is flawed because you use made up numbers and the false premise that a QB you draft at 20-something is going to be more prolific than Dak is day 1. It's stupid.

Purdy was mister irrelevant and anyone who never watched football and had the game muted would’ve probably assumed Dak was the rookie in that playoff game….and before you say that’s ridiculous, he beat Dak in EVERY statistical category while being under more pressure all game.

No one thinks releasing Dak is smart, but there are ways of parting with players and saving $$. It’s a business full of businessmen.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Purdy was mister irrelevant and anyone who never watched football and had the game muted would’ve probably assumed Dak was the rookie in that playoff game….and before you say that’s ridiculous, he beat Dak in EVERY statistical category while being under more pressure all game.

No one thinks releasing Dak is smart, but there are ways of parting with players and saving $$. It’s a business full of businessmen.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Purdy was mister irrelevant and anyone who never watched football and had the game muted would’ve probably assumed Dak was the rookie in that playoff game….and before you say that’s ridiculous, he beat Dak in EVERY statistical category while being under more pressure all game.

No one thinks releasing Dak is smart, but there are ways of parting with players and saving $$. It’s a business full of businessmen.

Purdy sucks.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Not sure what made up numbers you are talking about. At least with a new QB you will be working towards something. We saw what Purdy did last year as Mr. Irrelevant. You could get a new rookie higher than in the 20's. Could he bust? Yes. Could he hit? Yes. Would he be better than Dak on day 1? Probably not. Could he in a couple of years? Yes. Is that better than sticking with a QB who won't win you are super bowl and cost WAY to much? Yes.

Paying $50m. It's a made up number because it would never be the cap hit.

You can't get one higher than the 20s if you're a playoff team without trading up. Chances of hitting on one outside of the top-5, really, is miniscule.

If you're going to take a couple of years...that is my entire point. What he's going to be good when the entire defense and offensive line are gone?

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Why do you keep saying that? No where did I ever say anything about releasing Dak? That would be dumb.

Because you said it

Staying with Dak is?

Uh, NO.

I know he isn't worth what they are going to pay him. June 1st cut to split the cap hit.

And if you're not going to release him, then drafting a QB early is still stupid, becuase now you're paying two quarterbacks and you've undermined the success that your current quarterback can have.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Because you said it

I never said release Dak now. That is what you meant and you know it. June 1st next year. Split the hit. Give up a couple #1's and a player and get a QB next April. There are many available. And they are better than this years.

You said "Chances of hitting on one outside of the top-5, really, is miniscule" well both QB's in the super bowl just played weren't top 5 picks. In fact 3 of the final 4 weren't.

"drafting a QB early is still stupid, becuase now you're paying two quarterbacks and you've undermined the success that your current quarterback can have." One would be on a rookie deal and undermining Dak, who cares? He is gone anyways. He knows he isn't getting it done and had many chances.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

I never said release Dak now. That is what you meant and you know it. June 1st next year. Split the hit. Give up a couple #1's and a player and get a QB next April. There are many available. And they are better than this years.

You said "Chances of hitting on one outside of the top-5, really, is miniscule" well both QB's in the super bowl just played weren't top 5 picks. In fact 3 of the final 4 weren't.

"drafting a QB early is still stupid, becuase now you're paying two quarterbacks and you've undermined the success that your current quarterback can have." One would be on a rookie deal and undermining Dak, who cares? He is gone anyways. He knows he isn't getting it done and had many chances.

Nobody thinks we are talking about now, it's the 2024 draft lmao

Cool. 3 out of how many draft picks?

You care because you are using a first-round pick without making your team better immediately. It's flawed logic. It's got nothing to do with Dak knowing he's done or antyhing.

 

[big dog cowboy]

you are using a first-round pick without making your team better immediately.

That doesn't matter. We aren't winning the super bowl this year with Dak. Won't in 2024 either. And so on.

It's about the future. I'd rather roll with a different QB because I don't think #4 can win a super bowl and don't want to wreck the salary cap and massively overpay and QB who can't win the super bowl with a stupid extension.

This team is young and they are good and they will be for many more years. Especially the way we're drafting. They deserve better.

 

[T-RO]

Gallup are both FAs after next year.

Gallup is signed thru 2026.

 

[T-RO]

You know the Cowboys don't agree. They might draft one on day 2 but OL isn't a big need at all.

They really like Edoga and Farniok and view Waletzko and Richards as future starters.

The big question is center. They could draft one early and let Biadasz walk but that isn't what I expect.

I could not disagree more to this.

None of these are future starters: Edoga, Farniok, Waletzko, Richards. It's highly debatable they are even serviceable backups.

-Edoga has started 1 game the past two seasons. He signed for near vet minimum. League knows he's a JAG.
-Farniok is a 7th round pick who's getting bullied in camp
-Richards might develop into something in time. Too early to say.
-Waletzko has been getting cooked in TC