Projecting 2024 Draft Needs

[T-RO]

and don't want to wreck the salary cap and massively overpay and QB who can't win the super bowl with a stupid extension.

That ship has sailed. We'd get hit with $89 mil dead cap if we released Dak this year, and $62 mil in 2024.

 

[big dog cowboy]

That ship has sailed. We'd get hit with $89 mil dead cap if we released Dak this year, and $62 mil in 2024.

That's why you wait to June 1st. Like I said.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

That doesn't matter. We aren't winning the super bowl this year with Dak. Won't in 2024 either. And so on.

It's about the future. I'd rather roll with a different QB because I don't think #4 can win a super bowl and don't want to wreck the salary cap and massively overpay and QB who can't win the super bowl with a stupid extension.

This team is young and they are good and they will be for many more years. Especially the way we're drafting. They deserve better.

Then if it is about the future, you have to commit to a rebuild. My God. This team isn't young, and it definitely won't be in three years. If you get younger, you're probably going to get worse, especially if you are using premium draft capital on a quarterback.

And for the 100th time, the salary cap hit is greater, considerably, if you release Dak, rather than extend him. If you cut him, even as a June 1, you're paying him ~$25m, a rookie ~$4m, and a vet (i.e. Baker Mayfield) another ~$4m. You're talking about a cap hit over over $30m at QB, when Dak's with an extension at <$20m.

There is just no logic to anything you are saying.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

That's why you to June 1st. Like I said.

At a $25m cap hit, he'd be a top 5-6 cap hit. You're not saving anything against the cap, you're spending more.

 

[John813]

Then if it is about the future, you have to commit to a rebuild. My God. This team isn't young, and it definitely won't be in three years. If you get younger, you're probably going to get worse, especially if you are using premium draft capital on a quarterback.

And for the 100th time, the salary cap hit is greater, considerably, if you release Dak, rather than extend him. If you cut him, even as a June 1, you're paying him ~$25m, a rookie ~$4m, and a vet (i.e. Baker Mayfield) another ~$4m. You're talking about a cap hit over over $30m at QB, when Dak's with an extension at <$20m.

There is just no logic to anything you are saying.

All depends on the signing bonus for the cap hit on the extension.

Lamar Jackson got 72mil over 5years(14.4mil prorated) and Herbert got 16mil over 5 years(3.2) but also got yearly roster options that can be converted to signing bonus to drop that current years cap hit.

Prescott received 66 mil in signing bonus in 2020 which then set the NFL record.

So, if Dak gets ~70mil SB over 4 years(17.5mil prorated) with a 1.7mil base salary his minimum cap hit in 2024 is 17.5+1.7+25.45mil(original contract prorated sb) = 44.65mil in 2024. Still saves 15mil off the cap, but there's no way his cap hit in 2024 with an extension is anything less than 27.3mil(no new signing bonus-highly unlikely).
Regardless of the new contract Dak signs, the prorated signing bonus(original SB + restructures) of 25.45 mil cap hit stays in 2024 and 2025, which then drops to 11.mil in 2026.

But, who knows, maybe Dak will be willing to take less signing bonus this go around and go the guaranteed roster option that the Cowboys could exercise on a yearly basis.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

All depends on the signing bonus for the cap hit on the extension.

Lamar Jackson got 72mil over 5years(14.4mil prorated) and Herbert got 16mil over 5 years(3.2) but also got yearly roster options that can be converted to signing bonus to drop that current years cap hit.

Prescott received 66 mil in signing bonus in 2020 which then set the NFL record.

So, if Dak gets ~70mil SB over 4 years(17.5mil prorated) with a 1.7mil base salary his minimum cap hit in 2024 is 17.5+1.7+25.45mil(original contract prorated sb) = 44.65mil in 2024. Still saves 15mil off the cap, but there's no way his cap hit in 2024 with an extension is anything less than 27.3mil(no new signing bonus-highly unlikely).
Regardless of the new contract Dak signs, the prorated signing bonus(original SB + restructures) of 25.45 mil cap hit stays in 2024 and 2025, which then drops to 11.mil in 2026.

But, who knows, maybe Dak will be willing to take less signing bonus this go around and go the guaranteed roster option that the Cowboys could exercise on a yearly basis.

I don't think that's necessarily true. Dak might need to do a bit of a favor by restructuring the previous deal, but Aaron Rodgers just did it. Dak can do the same thing without reducing cash paid.

 

[John813]

I don't think that's necessarily true. Dak might need to do a bit of a favor by restructuring the previous deal, but Aaron Rodgers just did it. Dak can do the same thing without reducing cash paid.

You can restructure but the prorated bonus can never be eliminated, without being accelerated into dead cap(cut/traded)

I’d hope Dak could go the Herbert way of a lower signing bonus but guaranteed roster bonuses that could be exercised as needed. Say years 2-4/5 have 10-15 mil roster guarantees which are fully guaranteed that can be converted to signing bonus.

Rodgers had a 58.3 roster bonus in 2024 that they redid as it wasn’t yet paid to him.

Jets gave him a 35mil signing bonus spread out over 5 years(2 void) to lower the proration. And then roster bonuses that go into the void years for short term cap purposes. They will eat a lot of dead cap in two years if he retires/doesn’t extend. But this gives them a 2 year window

 

[Pass2Run]

I don't think DLaw retires. At least I hope he doesn't. Guy is so underappreciated. He's up there with Gallup, for me, as one of my favorite players.

 

[Xavier187]

The needs should be C, G, DT, RB

In that order and double up on OG.
The depth we have sucks. And no point in paying T.B. the kid from Georgia C looks like a beast. I'd watch him closely along with Tuss

 

[Mr_437]

Trenches 1st always. OL is the need, the other positions are fine imo.