Projecting the 2008 Compensatory Draft Picks

[Hostile]

This thread paints a picture for how to run a very solid off season. Let's say we also add Javon Walker and Warrick Dunn. They were not UFAs, but rather were released. If we lose Reeves, Jones, Julius, and Davis, our net loss is not 1 via Free Agency but 4. We could conceivably end up with 4 Compensatory picks in 2009 and still upgrade the positions some of them have left open by their exodus.

It is my understanding that Compensatory picks cannot be traded, so you can't use them to manuever up in the Draft. Is this correct? If so, it doesn't preclude you at all from using your own picks to move around and still have picks available from which to build some depth.

Instead of having 7 Draft picks per year, managed right you could have 10 or more each year. You just have to be willing to let certain players go and look to sign players who are cap hit moves rather than UFAs.

In plotting and scheming my way through the off season, I never never once come up with this as a plan of attack.

Obviously, if there is a UFA who is a perfect fit, you go for it. But if you are losing 4 UFAs and only sign 1 in return, you could still add 3 Compensatory Picks.

I am wondering if any team uses this as a model. Adam, do you know?

 

[theebs]

Great post. As always adam much appreciated.

Washington has a chance to do something right this year, I am curious to see what cerrato does with all those picks.

 

[AdamJT13]

Are these backwords ("signed" vs "lost")? Awesome job by the way!!!

Oops. Now I have to correct my posts.

 

[AdamJT13]

This thread paints a picture for how to run a very solid off season. Let's say we also add Javon Walker and Warrick Dunn. They were not UFAs, but rather were released. If we lose Reeves, Jones, Julius, and Davis, our net loss is not 1 via Free Agency but 4. We could conceivably end up with 4 Compensatory picks in 2009 and still upgrade the positions some of them have left open by their exodus.

It is my understanding that Compensatory picks cannot be traded, so you can't use them to manuever up in the Draft. Is this correct? If so, it doesn't preclude you at all from using your own picks to move around and still have picks available from which to build some depth.

Instead of having 7 Draft picks per year, managed right you could have 10 or more each year. You just have to be willing to let certain players go and look to sign players who are cap hit moves rather than UFAs.

In plotting and scheming my way through the off season, I never never once come up with this as a plan of attack.

Obviously, if there is a UFA who is a perfect fit, you go for it. But if you are losing 4 UFAs and only sign 1 in return, you could still add 3 Compensatory Picks.

I am wondering if any team uses this as a model. Adam, do you know?

I've never seen anyone mention it, but some years, there are teams who seem to have puposefully avoided signing any true UFAs but did sign guys who had been cut.

Like I said earlier, though, I don't think you give it too much thought if the best player available to fill your need happens to be a UFA. You might want to avoid having some scrub keep you from getting a decent comp pick, which has happened to teams in the past and could happen to Atlanta this year, but I don't think teams worry to much about getting late-round comp picks.

 

[superpunk]

Jeff Garcia garners 4th round compensation, but Stallworth garners third? Is this due to salary, or the fact that Stallworth started more games for the EAgles?

 

[Hostile]

I've never seen anyone mention it, but some years, there are teams who seem to have puposefully avoided signing any true UFAs but did sign guys who had been cut.

Like I said earlier, though, I don't think you give it too much thought if the best player available to fill your need happens to be a UFA. You might want to avoid having some scrub keep you from getting a decent comp pick, which has happened to teams in the past and could happen to Atlanta this year, but I don't think teams worry to much about getting late-round comp picks.

Out of curiosity, who are our potential UFAs in 2009?

 

[the kid 05]

who the hell are you and how the hell do you do it......

Hes Jerry Jones. GO look at his cap numbers its crazy

 

[BBQ101]

This thread paints a picture for how to run a very solid off season. Let's say we also add Javon Walker and Warrick Dunn. They were not UFAs, but rather were released. If we lose Reeves, Jones, Julius, and Davis, our net loss is not 1 via Free Agency but 4. We could conceivably end up with 4 Compensatory picks in 2009 and still upgrade the positions some of them have left open by their exodus.

It is my understanding that Compensatory picks cannot be traded, so you can't use them to manuever up in the Draft. Is this correct? If so, it doesn't preclude you at all from using your own picks to move around and still have picks available from which to build some depth.

Instead of having 7 Draft picks per year, managed right you could have 10 or more each year. You just have to be willing to let certain players go and look to sign players who are cap hit moves rather than UFAs.

In plotting and scheming my way through the off season, I never never once come up with this as a plan of attack.

Obviously, if there is a UFA who is a perfect fit, you go for it. But if you are losing 4 UFAs and only sign 1 in return, you could still add 3 Compensatory Picks.

I am wondering if any team uses this as a model. Adam, do you know?

I have thought about this a bit. This is one of the reasons I thought that letting Flozell leave would not have been terrible. I have to assume that the higher ups didn't like their chances with our backups (McQ, Free), because not only does letting Flozell go give you some nice freeup in terms of cap (and we have important signings comming up), but you more than likely rake in a 3rd rounder next year for him in compensation. That is huge!

That is not to say I don't like us signing Flozell. It all starts with the OL, and he is a known quality. I think alot of it had to do with Flozell wanting to stay. He would have raked a ton more in FA in my opinion.

BBQ

 

[gollum]

Why are Arizona and Seattle not receiving Compensatory picks for Davis and Hamlin?

Granted, this is from Wikipedia:

On February 17, 2007 the Arizona Cardinals told Leonard Davis that they would not name him a franchise or transition player, clearing the offensive tackle to become an unrestricted free agent. On March 4, 2007 he signed with the Dallas Cowboys for a seven year $49.6 million contract. $18.75 million of his contract is guaranteed.

and this is from ESPN:

Unrestricted free agent safety Ken Hamlin, who returned in 2006 from a devastating head injury that limited him to just six games with the Seattle Seahawks the previous season, on Friday reached a contract agreement with the Dallas Cowboys. Hamlin, 26, will sign a one-year, $2.5 million contract. The four-year veteran, who spent his entire career with the Seahawks before going into the free agent market earlier this month, was one of the top unrestricted players remaining.

 

[AdamJT13]

Why are Arizona and Seattle not receiving Compensatory picks for Davis and Hamlin?

They both signed more qualifying players than they lost. If you do that, you don't get any comp picks.

 

[gollum]

:bang2: I knew that (rule anyway).

 

[Wimbo]

RAVENS, BENGALS GET FOUR EXTRA PICKS

Posted by Michael David Smith on March 31, 2008, 3:50 p.m.
Fifteen teams received a total of 32 compensatory draft picks today when the NFL revealed the final tally at the league meetings in Palm Beach, Florida.
Compensatory draft picks are extra picks in the third through seventh rounds, and they go to teams that lost more or better free agents than they acquired, based on a complex formula. The maximum number of compensatory picks any team can receive is four, which the Baltimore Ravens and Cincinnati Bengals got this year.
The Bears, Colts, Eagles and Commanders got three compensatory picks apiece. The Bills, Panthers and Dolphins got two each, and the Falcons, Packers, Giants, Rams, Chargers and Titans each got one.
The most valuable compensatory picks are the third-rounders, which were awarded to the Commanders, Bengals, Falcons and Ravens. In past years those would have been the last four picks of the first day of the draft; this year the third round is on the second day.
Fourth-round compensatory picks went to the Eagles, Bills, Ravens, Titans and Packers. Only one team, the Chargers, got a fifth-round compensatory pick.
Sixth-round compensatory picks were awarded, in order, to the Giants, Eagles, Colts, Colts, Eagles, Dolphins, Colts, Ravens and Bengals. The rest of the compensatory picks are seventh-rounders.

 

[Avery]

Looks like the Falcons jumped from a 7th to a 3rd - that's surprising.

 

[AbeBeta]

Looks like the Falcons jumped from a 7th to a 3rd - that's surprising.

That is interesting. Are they getting something special from the league due to their recent misfortune?

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Wow....that is an awsome report-we are not worthy--thanks