Propaganda from the Washington Post...

[silverbear]

And I don't get it... in their analysis of yesterday's Skins loss to the Bucs, they were almost GLOWING in their reviews of Jason Campbell's play... they said things like "shines in debut", and "steady" to describe his effort... they talk about how he went 19 for 34 for 196 yards and 2 TDs, with no ints...

However, I find myself wondering if they watched the same game I did... in the game I watched, Campbell had 116 yards passing with 4 minutes left in the game, then the Bucs went to a soft, semi-prevent defense designed to allow completions, so long as they were over the middle and kept the clock running... and Jason took advantage of that soft defense by going 6 of 11 for 80 yards and that final, meaningless TD with roughly 30 seconds left...

In a closer ball game, Campbell is not facing that sort of bend but don't break offense, and does not rack up stats in what was little more than garbage time...

Let's take a closer, statistical look at the Skins offense under Campbell yesterday:

The Bucs are the 21st rated defense in the league, hardly a defensive powerhouse... they allow 331.2 yards per game on the season, and gave up 252 yards of total offense to the Skins... they rank 19th in yards per play allowed, at 5.3, and the Skins averaged 4.5 yards per play... the Bucs are pretty good at not allowing a high percentage of 3rd down conversions, giving up 35.1 per cent on the year, but the Skins only converted 31.0 per cent...

The Bucs were pretty miserable at the time of possession game, ranking 27th by allowing the opponent to keep the ball for an average of 31 minutes, 47 seconds per game... the Skins held the ball for 23 minutes, 59 seconds... the Bucs give up an average of 21.4 points per game, the Skins scored 17...

Tampa Bay gives up 121.3 yards per game rushing, 20th in the league; they gave up just 64 yards to the Skins on the ground... they rank 18th in yards per carry allowed, at 4.1, but the Skins only gained 3.2 yards per carry...

When it comes to pass defense, the Bucs rank 18th, giving up 209.9 yards per game, and the Skins gained 188 net yards passing... they're 26th in completion percentage allowed, at 62.5 per cent, but the Skins only completed 55.9 per cent...

IOW, in every offensive category, the Skins fell short, often far short, of what the Bucs had allowed other teams to rack up this season... Campbell's passing numbers came against a rather bad pass defense, yet the Bucs had one of their best games all season against the pass...

Nope, I don't get it... it's not like Jason was BAD, but at best, he was mediocre... frankly, I expected him to struggle, and he played better than I'd anticipated... but again, saying he was anything other than mediocre is hyperbole, period...

 

[NorthTexan95]

Considering what they've been watching all year ... and that it's his first career start in only his second year ... I think you'd take those numbers and enjoy it.

 

[streetcredit]

I agree, I wrote on another forum that about 50 of his 200 yards passing was when the game was already over...and when two teams are playing a meaningless game you shouldn't get too excited anyways.

 

[FLCowboyFan]

I agree, I wrote on another forum that about 50 of his 200 yards passing was when the game was already over...and when two teams are playing a meaningless game you shouldn't get too excited anyways.

Let's be honest, we would be doing the same thing if Romo had done the same thing in his first game. Give them something to hope for going forward. It beats watching an old washed up QB getting sacked and throwing INT's....hey wait...that sounds familiar

 

[conner01]

i thought he looked good for his first start.i don't think he will ever be a super star but he could be an ok nfl qb.

 

[dallasfaniac]

Was both Portis and Moss out? Who does he have left, Cooley?

I didn't watch the game, but I know they are a real banged up team right now. Not turning the ball over is huge for a rookie. I just wish they would win some more games so they don't have a real good 1st round pick.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I think WP did go overboard in their review of Campbell's play. I saw over at CPND where their fans even pointed out that Campbell's performance was "Brunnell-esque" in that he didn't put up anything until the last drive.

Should also be noted that the Bucs are 29th in QB rating allowed as well.

(And for those wondering or refuting, the Panthers, Skins, Cardinals, and Colts rank 10th, 32nd, 15th, and 18th in this category...after Romo's play as well)

I think the Skins should be somewhat satisfied with Campbell's play given his experience since he was serviceable and didn't turn the ball over, but let's see what he does against the Panthers next week.


YAKUZA

 

[superpunk]

They're probably just happier that it's not Brunell. Everyone, the Post included, I guess.

You've got to remember all the sunshine being blown around here after Romo's promising three INT start, don't you? lol

 

[WV Cowboy]

Was it just me, or does JC seem to have a slow delivery, a windup sort of ?

It won't matter on every pass, but it will show up sometime I am sure.

 

[adamknite]

The Commanders are pretty good at making a players stats seem really good, when playing a subpar team. Remember when playing the Texans and Brunell set the completion record?

 

[Doomsday]

There whole season has been a sinking ship, you cant blame them for trying to grab onto any life vest they can get a hold of.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I think WP did go overboard in their review of Campbell's play. I saw over at CPND where their fans even pointed out that Campbell's performance was "Brunnell-esque" in that he didn't put up anything until the last drive.

Well, if the choice is Brunell or Cambell and they are playing the same then I go with Cambell as he is young and can get better. With Brunell you get what you got and thats aging so it's just going to get worse. Not better.

 

[Aikbach]

Let them drink from the Campell's bowl, Romo will deliver a Bowl of his own.

 

[riggo]

i thought he was good, although i realize that he was sub par in yards til the last possession. most of his throws were on target and he didnt have really any bad ones, no INT's. lloyd probably should have had that first bomb, though. not having a running game or moss couldnt help.

it is funny that his stats are brunell-esque, while most people who bash brunell are glowing about campbell. now everyone is finally ripping the D and the lack of running game. i've been doing that all year.

i agree with the wind up comment. that delivery may get him in trouble if he doesnt hurry it up.

overall, i was impressed with the kid. sad as it may be (for skins fans anyhow), he looked like the best player on the field for the skins!

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Jason Campbell is going to be a good NFL QB, considering it was his first NFL start on the road without Moss to throw to and WR's dropping a perfectly thrown long ball.. I'd say the guy did fairly well.

 

[EndGame]

Was both Portis and Moss out? Who does he have left, Cooley?

I didn't watch the game, but I know they are a real banged up team right now. Not turning the ball over is huge for a rookie. I just wish they would win some more games so they don't have a real good 1st round pick.

Stop me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the Skins HAVE a first round pick next season. I'm fairly certain they traded it away.

:laugh2:

 

[dallasfaniac]

Stop me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the Skins HAVE a first round pick next season. I'm fairly certain they traded it away.

:laugh2:

As far as I know, there is only 1 traded 1st round pick; Seattle's for Branch.

 

[Hostile]

Stop me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the Skins HAVE a first round pick next season. I'm fairly certain they traded it away.

:laugh2:

They still own their 1st round pick and it's currently in the top 10. They traded away their 2nd and 3rd and a 4th next year (2008) among others.

I have better notes for traded picks at home.

 

[ravidubey]

Let's take a closer, statistical look at the Skins offense under Campbell yesterday:

Why? You said enough when you mentioned he gained most of his yards against a relaxed defense.

The Post wasn't out of line though as they reported the facts. I don't blame them for spinning it up; if they give some hope to the Washington fan base then more people may buy papers looking for news on their team.

From a pure football standpoint, I agree with your assessment that Washington is a below average football team, but it can't be taken away from Campbell that he played with poise and did not have a turnover.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

it is funny that his stats are brunell-esque, while most people who bash brunell are glowing about campbell.

Like one poster said, at least Campbell is inexperienced and has that as an excuse whereas Brunnell has been in the league for quite some time. In essence, you figure that Campbell will likely progress and all things considered, it wasn't a bad performance by any means. With Brunnell you know that's about as good as it's going to get for him.

One thing Skins fans need to stop thinking is that Lloyd and ARE were open, but Brunnell didn't want to throw to them. Lloyd in particular just isn't very good at getting seperation.


YAKUZA