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I note Dak hit 64% of his passes. Once again, mid-60's. The comments about Dak being an inaccurate quarterback aren't backed up by the numbers. And yes, I know there are some throws that he missed that in other games may be critical failures. But that's a comment for specific throws and games, comments that he's overall an "inaccurate" quarterback ring hollow...

That TD pass to Tavon was absolutely perfect. It was as beautiful as the end-zone miss to Rico was putrid. But overall, I don't expect perfection, just progress. Got another 14, maybe more, games this year to determine that.
 

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What do you guys thing of the mind set switch, relying on defense over offense because that looks like reality this year.

if thats what they're doing, they need to start deferring to the 2nd half

hell, I prefer deferring even if they're not
 
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He threw for 160 yards. His passing was effective LAST NIGHT. But throwing for high completion percentage does not tell the whole story just like passing for huge yards. What I see is this offense is built around the short game. In other words runs and short passes. When this offense becomes ineffective is if it needs to make up chunk yards to stay ahead of the chains. If its 3rd and 7 or longer this offense looks out of sorts, like they do not know what to do. I know all teams struggle making 3rd and long but this team looks like it does not even have play in the book that addresses it.

Or 3rd and inches. That was, without a doubt, the singly most ridiculous play-call of the night! I understand the thought is probably trying to catch NY thinking sneak and bust Zeke loose outside, but for crying out loud, just get the dang first down there.
 

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I note Dak hit 64% of his passes. Once again, mid-60's. The comments about Dak being an inaccurate quarterback aren't backed up by the numbers. And yes, I know there are some throws that he missed that in other games may be critical failures. But that's a comment for specific throws and games, comments that he's overall an "inaccurate" quarterback ring hollow...
64% isn't a particularly good number when your YPA is only 6.4.

Dak was much more decisive and played much better than he did against Carolina, but the passing game was still anemic outside of 1 play.
 

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if thats what they're doing, they need to start deferring to the 2bd half

hell, I prefer deferring even if they're not

Ordinarily, I agree, but they didn't win the toss and the Giants deferred. In that case, you have to take the ball first, otherwise you're giving them the ball first both times.
 

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vander esch made some good plays. covered receivers well and made some nice tackles.
He surprised me with how well he played. He does move really, really well, and is a good tackler. I feel a lot better about that pick after last night than I had before.
 

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Pump the brakes, bro? More like step on the gas. This D is legit!

Well when you're playing a not-very-mobile quarterback with a not-so-good offensive line, it's easier for the defense to look good. Still they did get 3 sacks on Cam Newton and held them to 16 pts, hopefully they can continue to develop. Also only 2 more games to get Irving back, Gregory should be off concussion protocol this week, maybe Woods is getting close to being back. Lots of season left to develop into Doomsday III...
 

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That TD pass to Tavon was absolutely perfect. It was as beautiful as the end-zone miss to Rico was putrid. But overall, I don't expect perfection, just progress. Got another 14, maybe more, games this year to determine that.

The NFL record for completion percentage in a season is 72.2, Dak isn't that far off that, only about 10%. And that record is from a 16 year veteran quarterback, and even he doesn't do that every year..
 

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64% isn't a particularly good number when your YPA is only 6.4.

Dak was much more decisive and played much better than he did against Carolina, but the passing game was still anemic outside of 1 play.

They're still missing out on using Zeke in the passing game more. Barkley only had less than 30 yards rushing, but caught 14 balls for a 5.7 average. That's better than you're going to get running. Even though we won the game, NY won the ToP by a wide margin and that's normally not a recipe for success.
 

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The NFL record for completion percentage in a season is 72.2, Dak isn't that far off that, only about 10%. And that record is from a 16 year veteran quarterback, and even he doesn't do that every year..

Yep. That's why most of the criticism of Dak is ridiculous, because it's generally comparing him to the veteran franchise QBs now rather than when they were in their 3rd year. I've been what I would say is a realist regarding Dak. He's a 3rd year, 4th round QB and should be playing like one. I just want to see progress and there definitely wasn't progress last week. But it was the first game of the year and, not totally to be dismissed, it shouldn't have caused people to go off the rails. Just like last night shouldn't have people booking their travel arrangement to this years Super Bowl yet. Let's see how the next 3 or 4 games play out.
 

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Here's the thing with this defense - tons of talent. Guys that were 1st rounders or 1st round talents that slipped - Lawrence, Lee, LVE, Lewis, Jones, JSmith, Taco, Gregory, Jones. Add in Chido, Crawford, Collins, Irving and they just have a ton of talent on that side of the ball. They should be good.
 

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They're still missing out on using Zeke in the passing game more. Barkley only had less than 30 yards rushing, but caught 14 balls for a 5.7 average. That's better than you're going to get running. Even though we won the game, NY won the ToP by a wide margin and that's normally not a recipe for success.
Yea, I don't really get their aversion to throwing the ball to Zeke as anything other than a checkdown. He's constantly getting balls thrown to him when he's either not moving or moving laterally, and it's almost impossible to turn that into any significant yardage.

TOP is a problem for this team, as they're structured, if they get behind. But in this case, that's a pretty hollow statistic. The Giants ate a ton of clock by refusing to throw the ball down the field - because they couldn't, lol - ate up a bunch of time late in the game, and the Cowboys lost some time with the big play to Tavon. I don't think the Giants did a better job of controlling the ball than Dallas, but that's just how the numbers come out sometimes.
 

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... yes it was a win. Yes the defense played great last night. D-line, LB'ers and secondary. They shut down OBJ, Shepherd and Barkley as a RB BUT remember the NY Giant O-line (even with the big $ on Solder) and the Hernandez draft pick is below average. They aren't very good, and neither is the Carolina O-line. And it's ELI, years removed from the discussion of whether he is elite or not. I keep thanking Giant management for NOT drafting a QB high.

Does this D have potential? Yes big. If we can keep Gregory sober and healthy and if Irving can stay off twitter and calling attention to himself. Doomsday potential? No but potential to be a 90's type D, yes. I want to see what they do against a top O-line and QB. In other words what do they do against the Eagles. We don't exactly know what we have yet but there seems to be 30 teams who are still figuring it out. There are the same number of 0-2 teams as there are 2-0. So far the majority sit at 1-1. And who looks like the best team in the NFL? The Chiefs? The Yucaneers? You kidding me!

Just sayin, tap the breaks on the D a bit. Be excited for potential not yet attained at this point. The potential is there. It's gonna have to be if we score 20 points or fewer on average.

What do you guys thing of the mind set switch, relying on defense over offense because that looks like reality this year.
I'll take a 90s Def right now.
 

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The offense looks like they need to get into a groove. The season just started. Austin is a major weapon. That is easy to see. If and how he is used is the question. He should be used like tyreke hill in k.c. in my opinion. gathers was wide open in what should have been a TD but that's OK. They have plenty of time to work on it. Dak looked good. He mixed it up with short, intermediate and long throws and he ran. That's something he didn't do Last week. I still would like to see Zeke more in the passing game. Not check downs but plays in which he catches in space
 

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Ordinarily, I agree, but they didn't win the toss and the Giants deferred. In that case, you have to take the ball first, otherwise you're giving them the ball first both times.

Oh I didn't mean to imply I'd want to do that

IIRC, Garrett always takes the ball if they win the toss and opposing teams always defer when they win so I cant remember the last time Dallas didn't start with the ball (which might simply mean my memory is not what it used to be)
 

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vander esch made some good plays. covered receivers well and made some nice tackles.
true, and I just saw my typo, I meant to say isnt as far away. I agree with you. After week 1 some people were wondering how long until he could contribute
 
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