QB Hits - Spencer and Ware

[theogt]

QB Hits, according to profootballfocus.com. I have to presume that this statistic excludes sacks, since some players have more sacks than QB hits.

3-4 OLBs:

Name			QB Ht
Anthony Spencer		26
DeMarcus Ware		16
Aaron Kampman		12
James Harrison		12
Tamba Hali		11
Lamarr Woodley		11
Manny Lawson		9
Clay Matthews		9
Shaun Phillips		8
Clark Haggans		7
Kamerion Wimbley	7
Parys Haralson		7
Tully Banta-Cain	7
David Bowens		6
Elvis Dumervil		6
Larry English		6
Joey Porter		5
Robert Ayers		5
Jason Taylor		4
Shawne Merriman	4

4-3 DEs

Name			QB Ht
Ray Edwards		22
Trent Cole		20
Andre Carter		16
Mario Williams		16
Jared Allen		14
Darryl Tapp		14
Kyle Vanden Bosch	14
Mathias Kiwanuka	13
Osi Umenyiora		13
Antonio D. Smith	13
Will Smith		13
Alex Brown		12
Dwight Freeney		12
Jacob Ford		12
Leonard Little		11
Robert Mathis		11
John Abraham		10
Stylez G. White		10
Patrick Kerney		10
Aaron Schobel		9
Jimmy Wilkerson		9
Chris Long		9

Just nice to see the statistics confirm what many thought -- i.e., that he was getting to the QB a lot early in the season, he just wasn't getting there quite soon enough to get the sack.

 

[theogt]

QB Pressures statistics.

3-4 OLBs:

Name		QB Pr
DeMarcus Ware	54
James Harrison	31
Tamba Hali	30
Elvis Dumervil	27
Lamarr Woodley	27
Parys Haralson	26
Clay Matthews	24
K. Wimbley	21
Clark Haggans	21
Anthony Spencer	21
Manny Lawson	19
Jason Taylor	19

4-3 DEs:

Name			QB Pr
Dwight Freeney		41
Robert Mathis		37
Ray Edwards		33
John Abraham		33
Jared Allen		32
Antonio D. Smith	29
Julius Peppers		29
Mario Williams		29
Adewale Ogunleye	25
Andre Carter		25
Kyle Vanden Bosch	25

 

[adamc91115]

Wow 54 pressures for Ware? Thats impressive. Especially considering Harrison is 2nd among OLB's, 23 pressures behind Ware :laugh2:.

 

[Danny White]

Interesting that Orakpo doesn't appear on either list.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

No doubt a cool thread. This adds a lot of perspective of just how good our line is playing.

 

[Eskimo]

Are QB pressures an official league statistic or one of those team statistics? I just ask because there would seem to be a fair bit of subjectivity to it. I also find it hard to believe Ware is that far ahead of Spencer in pressures even though Spencer has more hits.

 

[theogt]

Interesting that Orakpo doesn't appear on either list.

He has 9 hits and 15 pressures. I guess he should have been on the 4-3 DE QB hits list. Just copied down a good ways to get a critical mass of players on the list. I may have inadvertently cut the list off just before him.

 

[theogt]

Are QB pressures an official league statistic or one of those team statistics? I just ask because there would seem to be a fair bit of subjectivity to it. I also find it hard to believe Ware is that far ahead of Spencer in pressures even though Spencer has more hits.

Profootballfocus.com tallies its own statistics and none of them are "official." They're certainly to be taken with a grain of salt, but by and large they appear to be reasonably accurate.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Are QB pressures an official league statistic or one of those team statistics? I just ask because there would seem to be a fair bit of subjectivity to it. I also find it hard to believe Ware is that far ahead of Spencer in pressures even though Spencer has more hits.

I agree. There has to be a bit of discretion used when counting something as a pressure. I wonder who rules on what is a pressure and what is not.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Which is why it was insane to pile on Spencer. Anyone could tell he was playing well.

I would also attribute our good deep pass coverage to this and cut Hamlin and sign Nick Collins

 

[Hoofbite]

Interesting that Orakpo doesn't appear on either list.

Interesting how? He's playing well for a rookie.

 

[the truth of it all]

if there could be a formula to add up those statistics with the sack statistics.... would it show an accurate rating?... and what would it be. i agree interesting thread.

 

[Cover 2]

QB Hits, according to profootballfocus.com. I have to presume that this statistic excludes sacks, since some players have more sacks than QB hits.

3-4 OLBs:

Name            QB Ht
Anthony Spencer        26
DeMarcus Ware        16
Aaron Kampman        12
James Harrison        12
Tamba Hali        11
Lamarr Woodley        11
Manny Lawson        9
Clay Matthews        9
Shaun Phillips        8
Clark Haggans        7
Kamerion Wimbley    7
Parys Haralson        7
Tully Banta-Cain    7
David Bowens        6
Elvis Dumervil        6
Larry English        6
Joey Porter        5
Robert Ayers        5
Jason Taylor        4
Shawne Merriman    4

4-3 DEs

Name            QB Ht
Ray Edwards        22
Trent Cole        20
Andre Carter        16
Mario Williams        16
Jared Allen        14
Darryl Tapp        14
Kyle Vanden Bosch    14
Mathias Kiwanuka    13
Osi Umenyiora        13
Antonio D. Smith    13
Will Smith        13
Alex Brown        12
Dwight Freeney        12
Jacob Ford        12
Leonard Little        11
Robert Mathis        11
John Abraham        10
Stylez G. White        10
Patrick Kerney        10
Aaron Schobel        9
Jimmy Wilkerson        9
Chris Long        9

Just nice to see the statistics confirm what many thought -- i.e., that he was getting to the QB a lot early in the season, he just wasn't getting there quite soon enough to get the sack.

Interesting thread. I thought Spencer seemed close a lot, but I dismissed it because he never got any sacks. I figured sacks were a pretty good indicator of pressure, but I guess I was wrong. Good to see he is being productive.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Interesting thread. I thought Spencer seemed close a lot, but I dismissed it because he never got any sacks. I figured sacks were a pretty good indicator of pressure, but I guess I was wrong. Good to see he is being productive.

They dont always tell the whole story.

Does anyone really think James Harrison is close to Ware?

 

[Derinyar]

They dont always tell the whole story.

Does anyone really think James Harrison is close to Ware?

The media thought he was better last year. Of course the Media frequently is dead wrong on a lot of things.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

And watch like Dumerveil finish ahead of him this year. I like Dumerveil but cmon.

Im cool w/ Revis or Woodson winning it, but Im not seeing Ware even mentioned.

Last year the excuse was the overall D wasnt good enough, what about this year?

 

[Hostile]

54 QB Pressures is beyond amazing.

 

[burmafrd]

pressures is a very subjective stat. No two people are going to come up with the same total. BUT by and large they are a indicator. To me a pressure is when a rusher forces the QB to move or throw the ball early-of course that is also subjective since you do not KNOW that the pressure caused the ball to be thrown early a lot of the time.

 

[Manster68]

Question:

I noticed how Spencer has more QB hits that pressures. How is that?

How can a defensive player hit someone without pressuring him?

I do not recall a vast amount of late hit penalties on Spencer.


Subjective? ....... you bet!

 

[theogt]

Question:

I noticed how Spencer has more QB hits that pressures. How is that?

How can a defensive player hit someone without pressuring him?

I do not recall a vast amount of late hit penalties on Spencer.


Subjective? ....... you bet!

You can easily have a pressure without a hit and a hit without a pressure.