QB in the 2nd round?

[DFWJC]

I think the 2015 QB class maybe being better than this one. If the value is right, I'd do a 2nd then possibly.
But if a draft day steal falls into our lap in the 2014 draft, you never know.

 

[Common Sense]

I think the 2015 QB class maybe being better than this one. If the value is right, I'd do a 2nd then possibly.
But if a draft day steal falls into our lap in the 2014 draft, you never know.

The problem is you can't do anything with it. Why burn a 2nd round pick on a backup QB? His contract won't be up until Romo's is, and then you have to sign a guy to a second contract when you don't even know if he's any good on Sunday.

 

[burmafrd]

I think you let one more draft go by before you look for Romo's replacement. Now taking a guy late is a good idea for practice squad and such; and you never know lightnibg might strike again.

 

[IAmLegend]

I think you let one more draft go by before you look for Romo's replacement. Now taking a guy late is a good idea for practice squad and such; and you never know lightnibg might strike again.

Agreed. I say go all in for Mariota next year. But I really do think we'll draft a QB in the later rounds this year. There's just a lot of value in this years draft and a couple are bound to slip.

 

[Cowboyz88]

I get confused when guys say, "we can't draft anyone because Tony's contract isn't up until…"

Cap hit aside, who's to say Tony's play won't fall off significantly in the next few years or he gets seriously hurt (I'm not wishing for this, BTW)?

Ware's play has dropped dramatically (yes, I know he could be hurt, but couldn't the same happen to Tony)? Aikman was done before he wanted. Think the Eagles aren't glad they took a flier on Foles, even thought they had the "great" Vick? Everyone knows about Farve/Rodgers. There are plenty of examples.

The point is that I think it's very presumptuous and short-sighted to assume that Romo will play at this level for the next 3-4 year (I personally think he's already plateaued), and failure by the Cowboys to address the QB position based on that same assumption, would be history repeating itself with Aikman's career and IMO, very foolish.

 

[pjtoadie]

Not saying this will happen and I extremely doubt it would but if Johnny Football dropped a little bit do you think Jerry would be itching to try and get him?

 

[xwalker]

-Aaron Murray or Zach Mettenberger in the 4th or 5th round would be my guess. They'll slip because of their torn ACL's and inability to participate at the combine, and the Cowboys love value.

I like this idea. The injury would allow the Cowboys to put them on IR their rookie season. Hopefully, they would be ready to be the #2 the following season. This would prevent the team from having to carry 3 QBs on the active roster.

 

[xwalker]

I get confused when guys say, "we can't draft anyone because Tony's contract isn't up until…"

Cap hit aside, who's to say Tony's play won't fall off significantly in the next few years or he gets seriously hurt (I'm not wishing for this, BTW)?

Ware's play has dropped dramatically (yes, I know he could be hurt, but couldn't the same happen to Tony)? Aikman was done before he wanted. Think the Eagles aren't glad they took a flier on Foles, even thought they had the "great" Vick? Everyone knows about Farve/Rodgers. There are plenty of examples.

The point is that I think it's very presumptuous and short-sighted to assume that Romo will play at this level for the next 3-4 year (I personally think he's already plateaued), and failure by the Cowboys to address the QB position based on that same assumption, would be history repeating itself with Aikman's career and IMO, very foolish.

The issue is that he is likely to play a few more years. This would keep a young QB on the bench. By the time that Romo is done, the young QB would be a free agent and they would need to give him a big contract if he is good.

In the modern NFL, especially under the new CBA, draft picks are how you manage the salary cap. You have to get production from early round picks on their rookie contracts to offset the high cost of veteran players. The contract are 4 years with a 5 year option for 1st round picks.

IMO, the Cowboys need to go all in on building a defense while Romo is still playing. They can always tank the season after he is done, dump some caps hits into that year and get a very early pick where the franchise QBs are most often taken.

 

[windward]

I endorse the Murray/ Mettenberger idea.

 

[Questfor6]

Here's an updated list of QB rankings for this draft.
Updated QB rankings for the 2014 NFL Draft (undeclared QB's expected to declare):

1. Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville (undeclared)
2. Derek Carr, Fresno State
3. Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M (undeclared)
4. Blake Bortles, UCF (undeclared)
5. A.J. McCarron, Alabama
6. Tajh Boyd, Clemson
7. Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois
8. Zach Mettenberger, LSU
9. Aaron Murray, Georgia
10. David Fales, San Jose State
11. Stephen Morris, Miami
12. Brett Smith, Wyoming
13. Jeff Matthews, Cornell
14. Logan Thomas, Virginia Tech
15. Connor Shaw, South Carolina

No Hundley? I read he was 70-30 lean as to coming out this year. He'd probably make it to round 2 and would be a good QB to sit & learn

 

[IAmLegend]

No Hundley? I read he was 70-30 lean as to coming out this year. He'd probably make it to round 2 and would be a good QB to sit & learn

Where did you hear that? I read a tweet a couple weeks ago that he was leaning heavily towards coming back (which I think would be smart). If he decides to come out then he's definitely in the top 5. I'd put him ahead of McCarron, probably in the 2nd round like you said. But I think he goes back.

 

[ceerrece]

I would take Boyd in the third, bench him for a year or two, and try to get the pieces together to establish a Seattle type offense around him.

 

[Questfor6]

Where did you hear that? I read a tweet a couple weeks ago that he was leaning heavily towards coming back (which I think would be smart). If he decides to come out then he's definitely in the top 5. I'd put him ahead of McCarron, probably in the 2nd round like you said. But I think he goes back.

Profootballtalk had a article up saying he was leaning towards coming out because even if he was a 2nd rounder it would be even more beneficial to him now with the rookie wage scale due to the fact he'd be a free agent in 4 years instead of 5. Anyways I haven't seen anything since but if I find the article I'll put up the link.

 

[ghst187]

Seeing how deep this draft class is for QBs, would taking a QB in the 2nd round be a good or bad idea?

EXCELLENT idea for several reasons:
1) someone like AJ McCarron may make Orton cuttable thus saving a nice chunk of change
2) its never too early to start looking for Romo's successor, you may use several higher draft picks looking for a successor but there is no more important player to find than a franchise QB, period. You need to get them when the gettin's good and you need to get the successor BEFORE you actually have to have one.
3) Like you said, the crop this year is deep, a QB-deep draft is very rare. You pick from abundance lest you sorely overpay later.

 

[Sasquatch]

I get confused when guys say, "we can't draft anyone because Tony's contract isn't up until…"

Cap hit aside, who's to say Tony's play won't fall off significantly in the next few years or he gets seriously hurt (I'm not wishing for this, BTW)?

Ware's play has dropped dramatically (yes, I know he could be hurt, but couldn't the same happen to Tony)? Aikman was done before he wanted. Think the Eagles aren't glad they took a flier on Foles, even thought they had the "great" Vick? Everyone knows about Farve/Rodgers. There are plenty of examples.

The point is that I think it's very presumptuous and short-sighted to assume that Romo will play at this level for the next 3-4 year (I personally think he's already plateaued), and failure by the Cowboys to address the QB position based on that same assumption, would be history repeating itself with Aikman's career and IMO, very foolish.

I agree with this logic. If there is a better QB prospect you take him regardless of Romo's contract. Don't compound the original mistake of giving Romo a ridiculous contract by neglecting the opportunity to upgrade a key position.

 

[DoctorChicken]

Nope. Next year's QB class looks deeper to me. We want to compete next year, for something like, I dunno, least crappy team of all the crappy teams or something like that. Hey, I don't mean SBs.

Anyway, if we want to compete next year, we need major DL help.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Murray or Garoppolo 3rd rd. I'd be all for drafting both and cutting/trading Orton a 5th and cap space.

 

[Jenky]

Well looks like Jerry Jones stole Christmas again..

 

[Cowboyz88]

I get confused when guys say, "we can't draft anyone because Tony's contract isn't up until…"

Cap hit aside, who's to say Tony's play won't fall off significantly in the next few years or he gets seriously hurt (I'm not wishing for this, BTW)?

Ware's play has dropped dramatically (yes, I know he could be hurt, but couldn't the same happen to Tony)? Aikman was done before he wanted. Think the Eagles aren't glad they took a flier on Foles, even thought they had the "great" Vick? Everyone knows about Farve/Rodgers. There are plenty of examples.

The point is that I think it's very presumptuous and short-sighted to assume that Romo will play at this level for the next 3-4 year (I personally think he's already plateaued), and failure by the Cowboys to address the QB position based on that same assumption, would be history repeating itself with Aikman's career and IMO, very foolish.

Well, I said I didn't want it to happen, but here we are.

And yet, the are fans who still don't want to draft a QB. I just don't get it.

I know the defense is deplorable and the OL still could use an upgrade, so I'm not saying to ignore those areas, but you just can't ignore the most important position on the field.

There's no guarantee that Romo will come back 100% or won't tweak his back again (he did this season).