QB Mobility... a little goes a long way?

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There was a play, not sure what quarter/drive. Bledsoe drops back, the pressure gets to him and he appears to stiffen up like a board and sets up to fall down. But he doesn't fall down..he falls into a lineman (Gurode or Rivera maybe) and after like a second realizes he's not going down, then um...convulses forward for like 2yds.

Looks to me like Bledsoe is very aware that he can't out run the defense and that's why he will hold on to the ball until the absolute last second..and then some on Sunday.

There were several plays where once he saw nothing, Bledsoe could have pushed forward and picked up any yards he could. he did it to pickup a first down and a touchdown. It was there for him...

Even if Romo isn't the leader that Bledsoe is, if his arm isn't as good as Bledsoe's (psh), can Romo's mobility and possible willingness to run help the team overall?

I'll stop rambling

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Yet he took off runnig for big gains twice?

That's what Irks me about Bledsoe. He doesn't move out of the pocket unless that's the play design.

He stood in that pocket and let it collapse on him on that 3rd and long sack he took near the end of the game. All he had to do was roll a bit to the right and look for an open man. He didn't. He stood there. And waited. And waited. Then he checked his watch. Then stood there a bit longer. Then he went down.
 

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It's not that Bledsoe won't run because he can't outrun defenses. Most QBs can't outrun defenses, and I got news for ya, Romo can't either.

Bledsoe's fault is that he thinks he can make more plays with his arm. He holds the ball because he's waiting for something to develop, not because he can't outrun the D. He just doesn't know when to pack it in or throw it away. But I do think he's gotten better this year at throwing it away.

Remember last night when he threw it away and got the grounding? When I saw that, I thought we were in trouble. Not just because we lost the yards and the down, but because Bledsoe got a penalty when he did something good. We want him throwing the ball away. But you throw in that negative impact from the throw away, and he could get hesitant to do it next time. If he would just take a couple steps outside the tackle box, then he could throw it away at will.
 

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peplaw06;1082422 said:
It's not that Bledsoe won't run because he can't outrun defenses. Most QBs can't outrun defenses, and I got news for ya, Romo can't either.

Bledsoe's fault is that he thinks he can make more plays with his arm. He holds the ball because he's waiting for something to develop, not because he can't outrun the D. He just doesn't know when to pack it in or throw it away. But I do think he's gotten better this year at throwing it away.

Remember last night when he threw it away and got the grounding? When I saw that, I thought we were in trouble. Not just because we lost the yards and the down, but because Bledsoe got a penalty when he did something good. We want him throwing the ball away. But you throw in that negative impact from the throw away, and he could get hesitant to do it next time. If he would just take a couple steps outside the tackle box, then he could throw it away at will.
ya know reading your post sounds like you're talking about a rookie. its pretty sad your talkin bout a 12 year "vet" or however long he has been around
 

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peplaw06;1082422 said:
It's not that Bledsoe won't run because he can't outrun defenses. Most QBs can't outrun defenses, and I got news for ya, Romo can't either.

Bledsoe's fault is that he thinks he can make more plays with his arm. He holds the ball because he's waiting for something to develop, not because he can't outrun the D. He just doesn't know when to pack it in or throw it away. But I do think he's gotten better this year at throwing it away.

Remember last night when he threw it away and got the grounding? When I saw that, I thought we were in trouble. Not just because we lost the yards and the down, but because Bledsoe got a penalty when he did something good. We want him throwing the ball away. But you throw in that negative impact from the throw away, and he could get hesitant to do it next time. If he would just take a couple steps outside the tackle box, then he could throw it away at will.
I gotta agree with bigbadroy on this one. Romo making that mistake...ok. But Bledsoe is a veteran, he should know better than that. When he threw it up, I was just happy it got away from everybody and didn't float into the arms of a guy in green.

Mind you, I'm not sold on Romo, but i think he deserves a chance and this game w/ Houston could be the best opportunity. Give him 1 or 2 drives. If that works, 1 QTR. If that works, 1 half. if that works, the game. If that works, against NYG, 1 QTR...keep that leash short.

Romo's no Michael Vick that's for sure. But from what I saw in pre-season, his little bit is better than Bledsoe's next to nothing. Bledsoe has 2 speeds: drop back and sacked. Dallas isn't gonna beat good teams with that. But that's just my 2cents

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EPL0c0;1082490 said:
I gotta agree with bigbadroy on this one. Romo making that mistake...ok. But Bledsoe is a veteran, he should know better than that. When he threw it up, I was just happy it got away from everybody and didn't float into the arms of a guy in green.
There's no doubt Bledsoe shouldn't be making some of the mistakes, or that he shouldn't have some of the bad habits he does, but that's just Bledsoe.

Mind you, I'm not sold on Romo, but i think he deserves a chance and this game w/ Houston could be the best opportunity. Give him 1 or 2 drives. If that works, 1 QTR. If that works, 1 half. if that works, the game. If that works, against NYG, 1 QTR...keep that leash short.

Romo's no Michael Vick that's for sure. But from what I saw in pre-season, his little bit is better than Bledsoe's next to nothing. Bledsoe has 2 speeds: drop back and sacked. Dallas isn't gonna beat good teams with that. But that's just my 2cents

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I think if we went Romo, it would be for the rest of the season. Bledsoe is not going to be any better if you platoon the guys. He'd probably be worse... and yes that's possible. Not to mention that Bledsoe wouldn't be a happy camper.
 

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It's odd thinking about this, but this was never something we worried about with Quincy Carter. The guy had his flaws, but at least he moved before he threw a lame duck...
 

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Yeah, I absolutely think Romo's mobility can be an asset at times to extend plays and to pick up positive yardage.

But can he consistently gain yardage through the air against NFL defenses? I still don't know what to make of the guy. I'm cautiously optimistic, but honestly don't know what to expect if/when we go with him. Preseason success is a great start, but it's difficult (read: impossible) to predict what he'll do in the regular season.
 

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Dale;1082540 said:
Yeah, I absolutely think Romo's mobility can be an asset at times to extend plays and to pick up positive yardage.

But can he consistently gain yardage through the air against NFL defenses? I still don't know what to make of the guy. I'm cautiously optimistic, but honestly don't know what to expect if/when we go with him. Preseason success is a great start, but it's difficult (read: impossible) to predict what he'll do in the regular season.

Never know till we try, eh?

I give Bledsoe one of these a year just for being who he is. Last year it was Seattle, this year its Philly. If he does it again, I will begin seriously lobbying for Romo. Time to see what we've got in the bag.
 

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parchy;1082550 said:
Never know till we try, eh?

I give Bledsoe one of these a year just for being who he is. Last year it was Seattle, this year its Philly. If he does it again, I will begin seriously lobbying for Romo. Time to see what we've got in the bag.

See, I was hoping/thinking Jacksonville was that game. Now, it's Philly, too. :bang2:
 

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Dale;1082556 said:
See, I was hoping/thinking Jacksonville was that game. Now, it's Philly, too. :bang2:

He had comparable games to Jax last year as well (Wash. #2 to name one) where he didn't blatantly give the game away but gave a piss poor effort enough to cripple the Boys.

Seattle though, while the playcalling was horrid, was Bledsoe gifting that game away in the final moments. If he does that again he is directly hindering the winning effort, and that deserves some kind of change.
 

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Bledsoe has almost zero pocket presence, I think he tries to focus all his attention down the field and he just hopes his Oline is going to proctect him. He actually throws the ball fairly well when they move him outside the pocket.
 

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Dale;1082540 said:
Yeah, I absolutely think Romo's mobility can be an asset at times to extend plays and to pick up positive yardage.

But can he consistently gain yardage through the air against NFL defenses? I still don't know what to make of the guy. I'm cautiously optimistic, but honestly don't know what to expect if/when we go with him. Preseason success is a great start, but it's difficult (read: impossible) to predict what he'll do in the regular season.

What I like about Romo is the ability to move one or two steps or duck under a
lineman and still see the field. with our recievers I think He can consistently
move the ball. Will he make mistakes under pressure? probably --but look at what we got now
 

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JMO: If Quincy was QB of this team, we'd be unbeaten. Did he make mistakes? Oh hell yeah. But only when he was pressed ... not pressured. the Quincy of '04 takes this team to the NFC title game.
 

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Last year, JP Losman gave up 27 sacks for 197 yards! IN JUST 9 (Partial) GAMES.:eek: One of the most mobile young QB's in the league. If the O Line Doesn't do it's job, it doesn't matter who the QB is.
 

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parchy;1082550 said:
Never know till we try, eh?

I give Bledsoe one of these a year just for being who he is. Last year it was Seattle, this year its Philly. If he does it again, I will begin seriously lobbying for Romo. Time to see what we've got in the bag.

You're blowing off Jacksonville, Parchy?
 

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I don't want to watch Bledsoe blow another game...just to wait and see if he will....trust me...he will!

It's time to see what Romo can do...Bledsoe is making rookie type mistakes, well, why not let the rookie make them instead. At least he has a chance to improve on them rather then do the same thing over and over and over again like an old dog.

If Romo is not the answer then we know what the draft plan is next year.

My biggest fear...ridding Bledsoe...playing ONE playoff game and losing because of him. Then going with Romo the next year and finding out he's not the answer. Then what??? :eek:

It's Romo time and also draft a QB not matter how well he plays...
 

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TSquare;1082743 said:
One of the most mobile young QB's in the league.

Look what you said here.

I do agree with you that the OL and really the offense as a whole has to do there jobs but the issue with us, IMO, is not that we have a bad offense per say. To me, our skilled positions are as good as anybody in the NFL. Our OL is going to have to play at a level I'm not certain they are capable of playing at if we want to have a chance to win against good pressure defenses.

Losman, IMO, has issues because he doesn't have the experience or the over all talent, on offense, available to him to be truely succesful. If you had a guy who had some mobility to go along with experience here, you might see a much improved OL. Bledsoe doesn't help that situation. He only adds pressure because of the limited skills he has to deal with pressure. At least, that's my opinion of the subject.
 
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