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QB option no 2 could be Derek Carr

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Killerinstinct, Feb 14, 2020.

  1. Killerinstinct

    Killerinstinct Well-Known Member

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    I made the case for Matthew Stafford as a possibility and if Det decides to go with Tua I believe it would be a great move to trade for Stafford but only a smart f.o. would make that move. Feels like a Patriots or Saints maneuver.

    I would not cave to Dak. I would tag him with the non-exclusive tag and offer him 4 options.
    1. sign the tag and play for 27 mil
    2. Sign a long term deal at 30 mil per
    3. Sign the tag and find a team willing to trade for you.
    4. Don't sign the tag and play in the XFL

    He would either realize that 30 mil per plus the endorsement opps that come with being the QB for Americas team is a pretty good life or feel disrespected and find a team willing to pay him what he wants and pony up the picks.

    So what happens if he finds another team?

    This is where QB option no 2 comes in. Derek Carr!

    Why would the Raiders do it?
    Brady to Raiders is one of the hottest rumors around.
    Their f.o is infatuated with Brady
    moving to Las Vegas and want to establish a fan base.

    Why would Dallas do it?
    gain 2 1st rd picks
    get a franchise QB at about half the price.
    3 years left on a very affordable contract.
    Would be able to keep and sign plenty of F.A's.

    Carr threw for over 4000 yards last year with a completion percentage over 70% and a very good td to interception ratio. Had inferior receivers. I would rank him a notch below Dak but at half price a better option.
     
  2. ShortRound131

    ShortRound131 Well-Known Member

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    You think you're getting 2 firsts for Dak? lol
     
  3. garyo1954

    garyo1954 Well-Known Member

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    Rules is rules...

    A "non-exclusive" franchise player must be offered a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top five cap hits at the player's position for the previous five years applied to the current salary cap, or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater. A non-exclusive franchise player may negotiate with other NFL teams, but if the player signs an offer sheet from another team, the original team has a right to match the terms of that offer, or if it does not match the offer and thus loses the player, is entitled to receive two first-round draft picks as compensation.

    So if the cap is $200 million we only have to offer $27 million. If he finds a team willing to pay more, we can match or pass and take the two picks.
     
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  4. snapper

    snapper Well-Known Member

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    Carr sucks. Stafford is too old.

    Some of you may not like it, but Dak Prescott is a top 6-10 QB. Sometimes he played like a top three, other times he played like an 8-11. Point is: He will get paid by the Dallas Cowboys.
     
  5. TwistedL0g1k

    TwistedL0g1k Well-Known Member

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    You don't think a young, proven, durable, starting caliber QB would fetch 2 first rounders?
    I do. I'm no Dak fan either.
     
  6. snapper

    snapper Well-Known Member

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    You get a like for your avatar.

    Il mio nome รจ Nessuno
     
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  7. darthseinfeld

    darthseinfeld Drunk on Dalton Juice

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    Teams never sign the tagged players outright and give up the two picks. They negotiate a trade
     
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  8. Oz-of-Cowboy-Country

    Oz-of-Cowboy-Country Well-Known Member

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    1) Stafford.
    2) Carr.
    3) Willy Wonka.
    4) Stewie Griffin f/ Family Guy.
     
  9. garyo1954

    garyo1954 Well-Known Member

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    By rule they are not required to negotiate. One instance is Sean Gilbert, and possibly the precedent...

    "The Redskins made Gilbert their franchise player, but rather than sign the one-year $3.4 million tender offer, Gilbert sat out the 1997 season. After the 1997 season the Redskins again made Gilbert a franchise player, this time offering a one-year contract for $2.97 million (the average of the 5 highest paid DTs). Gilbert objected and asked for arbitration saying the Redskins did not have the right to place their franchise player tag on him for a second straight year.

    On March 17, 1998, the NFLPA and the NFL had an all-day hearing to resolve the case.

    "The Redskins received compensation of two first round draft picks from the Carolina Panthers for not matching the Panthers offer of 46.5 million dollars."

    If the agent wants to play hardball, we play.
     
  10. Corso

    Corso Offseason mode... sleepy time

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    Dang man... you had to go to all the way to 1998 for the one instance and was the Franchise Tag in existence then?
     
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  11. Corso

    Corso Offseason mode... sleepy time

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    And it's not if the agent wants to play, but if the other team wants to play. There's a difference.
     
  12. darthseinfeld

    darthseinfeld Drunk on Dalton Juice

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    You dont have to negotiate, but thats what happens nowadays with tagged players. Its been a very long time since someone signed a franchise tagged player instead of negotiating a trade
     
  13. Kevinicus

    Kevinicus Well-Known Member

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    Teams won't want to give up 2 firsts, so they won't sign him to a contract without first negotiating a lesser trade price.
     
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  14. cowboy_ron

    cowboy_ron You Can't Fix Stupid

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    If they could get 2 firsts for Dak they would do it in a heartbeat.......I'm sure they're getting pretty tired of him being overly greedy as well.......as much as I've backed Dak I certainly didn't see this coming.
     
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  15. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Moderator

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  16. garyo1954

    garyo1954 Well-Known Member

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    Yall are missing the point. You're making good points, but the rule is there for a reason. (What teams do has no bearing on what the rules are)

    We could still insist on the 2 #1s, and I think you're right, no one is willing to give that up for Dak Prescott.

    Of course, I could be wrong and there is a team stupid enough to pay Dak and offer 2 #1s.

    I'll take that chance.
     
  17. cowboy_ron

    cowboy_ron You Can't Fix Stupid

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    Derek Carr? You're drunk.
     
  18. garyo1954

    garyo1954 Well-Known Member

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    Corso, it was the first I found. Here's is a list at Wiki, starts at 2007, ain't no way I'm going through all those names to see how it worked out......

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franchise_tag
     
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  19. boxer-rumble

    boxer-rumble Well-Known Member

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    If Dak is as good as some here claim to be then 2 firsts is what we should be able to get somewhat easily. Funny how there are crickets after that...
     
  20. Corso

    Corso Offseason mode... sleepy time

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    I don't blame you. I wouldn't either.
     
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